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TswaneNguni · 26 September 2010, 12:56 PM

Have tried the following ....

Parker Quink
Mont Blanc
LAMY
OMAS
Waterman
Pelikan
Aurora

The best I have found .....

J. Herbin Perle Noire

gold canyon · 26 September 2010, 01:19 PM

Will try that someday. My current favorite is a Mont Blanc ball point (BROAD). Very, very smooth too.

2careless · 26 September 2010, 01:52 PM

Do you need permanent black or you're ok with washable? Perle Noire is very washable...

gold canyon · 26 September 2010, 01:54 PM

Depends if it gets on my shirt.

TswaneNguni · 26 September 2010, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2careless

Do you need permanent black or you're ok with washable? Perle Noire is very washable...

I have more of a problem with the 30ml "les petit" bottles

I see they do however produce 100ml bottles.

Any suggestions regarding a permanent ink that has the writing characteristics of Perle Noire ?? I am all ears !!

149 B with Perle Noire ...... Yummy !!!!

2careless · 26 September 2010, 05:14 PM

Yeah, the 30ml bottles can't feed the 149 properly. You'll have to decant it lol.

I'd use Noodler's Bulletproof black.
The Bulletproof black is black black black, but it tends to feather on lower quality paper.
When I said washable, Perle Noire still quite viewable after wet

I've heard Noodler's Heart of Darkness is even better/blacker than Noodler's Black, but I haven't been able to get one here. :(

Lion · 26 September 2010, 09:43 PM

Well, I know this is run of the mill black but I like and do use MontBlanc's ink!!!

Bon Temps · 27 September 2010, 02:08 AM

Noodlers Wardens series "Bad Black Moccasin". It's black, wet and PERMANENT.

gelshocker · 27 September 2010, 12:33 PM

I actually like Waterman's black for it's shading. Pelikan black is very black but boring for me. Cheers,

Lion · 27 September 2010, 11:26 PM

Personally, I have gotten into and like the colored inks better than standard black, blue or blue/black. I currently am using Bordeaux in on FP and Oyster Grey in the other!!!

TattooedGQ · 27 September 2010, 11:30 PM

If you want a really black black black ink try Noodlers "Heart of Darkness". I don't have feathering problems with it even on cheap office paper, and it's super black!

daveathall · 27 September 2010, 11:56 PM

I like the J Herbin as well.

Lol-x · 28 September 2010, 12:18 AM

The Montblanc 149 and other large nib pens do seem to have somewhat of a problem getting the ink from smaller bottles, especially when they get 1/2 empty

Zed Homme · 28 September 2010, 02:29 AM

I like how the mb ink bottle is devided like saddle bags so one can get more ink out. I'm currently using blue black but could get into other colors. This is probably why you guys have multiple pens. How hard is it to switch colors?

2careless · 28 September 2010, 06:26 AM

Depends on the saturation of the ink, it takes from 3 flushes to soaking overnight to remove all traits of a said ink from the pen. I have found J. Herbin inks to be very good in taking only a few flushes (<10) to get it cleaned, while some MB inks (e.g. old MB Violet, MB seasons ink White Forest) are bloody difficult to get rid of.

MoonDogJerry · 29 September 2010, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2careless

Yeah, the 30ml bottles can't feed the 149 properly. You'll have to decant it lol.

I'd use Noodler's Bulletproof black.
The Bulletproof black is black black black, but it tends to feather on lower quality paper.
When I said washable, Perle Noire still quite viewable after wet

I've heard Noodler's Heart of Darkness is even better/blacker than Noodler's Black, but I haven't been able to get one here. :(

I agree!

Bisquitlips · 29 September 2010, 11:40 AM

J. Herbin is very hard to beat in any color! Good choice!

Lion · 29 September 2010, 12:10 PM

I'll have to check out the J. Herbin inks and especially the black.....who sells them in Chicagoland and what is usually the price?!!

VetteBandit · 29 September 2010, 12:46 PM

My vote for best black would be a blue....either Montblanc Royal Blue to be exact. J Herbin makes a nice blue too, but MB remains my fav.

99% of my work writing is in blue to be able to distinguish original docs from copies and I like the look of blue better.

2careless · 29 September 2010, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lion

I'll have to check out the J. Herbin inks and especially the black.....who sells them in Chicagoland and what is usually the price?!!

Check out Goulet Pens. www.gouletpens.com. They have 2 ml J Herbin ink samples so you can check out the whole range before committing.

Lion · 29 September 2010, 10:45 PM

Kai, Thanx for the link to the web site!!!

26 September 2010, 12:56 PM	#1
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	The best black ink. Have tried the following .... Parker Quink Mont Blanc LAMY OMAS Waterman Pelikan Aurora The best I have found ..... *J. Herbin Perle Noire*

26 September 2010, 09:43 PM	#7
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Well, I know this is run of the mill black but I like and do use MontBlanc's ink!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

27 September 2010, 11:26 PM	#10
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Personally, I have gotten into and like the colored inks better than standard black, blue or blue/black. I currently am using Bordeaux in on FP and Oyster Grey in the other!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

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TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	If you want a really black black black ink try Noodlers "Heart of Darkness". I don't have feathering problems with it even on cheap office paper, and it's super black! __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

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daveathall "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: England. Watch: Various Posts: 7,304	I like the J Herbin as well. __________________ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE

26 September 2010, 01:19 PM	#2
gold canyon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southwest Watch: R O L E X Posts: 1,188	Will try that someday. My current favorite is a Mont Blanc ball point (BROAD). Very, very smooth too.

26 September 2010, 01:52 PM	#3
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Do you need permanent black or you're ok with washable? Perle Noire is very washable...

26 September 2010, 01:54 PM	#4
gold canyon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southwest Watch: R O L E X Posts: 1,188	Depends if it gets on my shirt.

26 September 2010, 05:14 PM	#6
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Yeah, the 30ml bottles can't feed the 149 properly. You'll have to decant it lol. I'd use Noodler's Bulletproof black. The Bulletproof black is black black black, but it tends to feather on lower quality paper. When I said washable, Perle Noire still quite viewable after wet I've heard Noodler's Heart of Darkness is even better/blacker than Noodler's Black, but I haven't been able to get one here. :(

27 September 2010, 02:08 AM	#8
Bon Temps "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: LA Watch: SD43 Posts: 360	Noodlers Wardens series "Bad Black Moccasin". It's black, wet and PERMANENT.

27 September 2010, 12:33 PM	#9
gelshocker Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 318	I actually like Waterman's black for it's shading. Pelikan black is very black but boring for me. Cheers,

28 September 2010, 12:18 AM	#13
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28 September 2010, 02:29 AM	#14
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	I like how the mb ink bottle is devided like saddle bags so one can get more ink out. I'm currently using blue black but could get into other colors. This is probably why you guys have multiple pens. How hard is it to switch colors?

28 September 2010, 06:26 AM	#15
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Depends on the saturation of the ink, it takes from 3 flushes to soaking overnight to remove all traits of a said ink from the pen. I have found J. Herbin inks to be very good in taking only a few flushes (<10) to get it cleaned, while some MB inks (e.g. old MB Violet, MB seasons ink White Forest) are bloody difficult to get rid of.

29 September 2010, 11:40 AM	#17
Bisquitlips 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,527	J. Herbin is very hard to beat in any color! Good choice! __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

29 September 2010, 12:10 PM	#18
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	I'll have to check out the J. Herbin inks and especially the black.....who sells them in Chicagoland and what is usually the price?!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

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VetteBandit "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: JP Location: USA Watch: All of them! Posts: 917	My vote for best black would be a blue....either Montblanc Royal Blue to be exact. J Herbin makes a nice blue too, but MB remains my fav. 99% of my work writing is in blue to be able to distinguish original docs from copies and I like the look of blue better. __________________ ********************************* "Eveyone has a plan until they get punched in the face." Instagram: @30threejosh

29 September 2010, 10:45 PM	#21
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Kai, Thanx for the link to the web site!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

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