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DiscoPanda · 8 October 2010, 09:25 PM

Hi guys,

I picked up my first Rolex yesterday - the new Submariner 116610LN.

I have a query about Rolex lume - the lume on the markers in sunlight/normal lighting looks patchy and non-uniform i.e. some bits within the hour markers and 12 o'clock triangle look 'dirty'. Is this as it should be? Normal?

Second, the book says its a blue loom but its mopre green than anything.

I know you'l say OCD lol, but I've spent a fortune on something and I just want to know its all as it should be.

Thank you!

mjrennie · 8 October 2010, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoPanda

Hi guys,

I picked up my first Rolex yesterday - the new Submariner 116610LN.

I have a query about Rolex lume - the lume on the markers in sunlight/normal lighting looks patchy and non-uniform i.e. some bits within the hour markers and 12 o'clock triangle look 'dirty'. Is this as it should be? Normal?

Second, the book says its a blue loom but its mopre green than anything.

I know you'l say OCD lol, but I've spent a fortune on something and I just want to know its all as it should be.

Thank you!

Congrats, first of all! The lume is green, imo. Some say blue. Whatever. Green/blue it is. The dirty bits, can't help you there. I doubt there is an issue with such a fine piece.

Traveler · 8 October 2010, 09:41 PM

If the watch you are refering to is the new Submariner LN..then the lume should definitely be blue color. Where did you purchase the watch ? Was it BNIB from an AD ?

padi56 · 8 October 2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoPanda

Hi guys,

I picked up my first Rolex yesterday - the new Submariner 116610LN.

I have a query about Rolex lume - the lume on the markers in sunlight/normal lighting looks patchy and non-uniform i.e. some bits within the hour markers and 12 o'clock triangle look 'dirty'. Is this as it should be? Normal?

Second, the book says its a blue loom but its mopre green than anything.

I know you'l say OCD lol, but I've spent a fortune on something and I just want to know its all as it should be.

Thank you!

Well if its the new sub then the lume should be blue/green tint try charging the lume with very strong artificial light then go into a very dark room.But Rolex lume has never been the best on the market but the main bit the movement most certainly is.

DiscoPanda · 8 October 2010, 09:52 PM

Brand new in the box from a dealer yesterday.

kokota · 8 October 2010, 09:54 PM

The lume on the 116610LN does look blue compared with the lume on the previous sub. (See pic below) I guess you have to have them side by side to see the difference.
As for the inconsistency in your markers maybe take it up with your AD or the closest RSC. Post a pic if you can and congrats on the new Sub!

DiscoPanda · 8 October 2010, 09:54 PM

I'm not too concerned about the lume colour. It's more the patchy appearance of it under bright conditions. Maybe I expect too much? Are others like this?

slevin kelevra · 8 October 2010, 10:35 PM

The lume should be flawless. If not return it ASAP.

Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot of reports of defects with the new Subs?

Casey VP-26 · 8 October 2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kokota

The lume on the 116610LN does look blue compared with the lume on the previous sub. (See pic below) I guess you have to have them side by side to see the difference.
As for the inconsistency in your markers maybe take it up with your AD or the closest RSC. Post a pic if you can and congrats on the new Sub!

Nice comparison shot. WOW

Danand · 8 October 2010, 10:53 PM

I never noticed anything wrong with mine but after this post in looking very closely ( ( with a 3.5 x loupes there is a slight patchiness to the 12 triangle. It looks like a slight variation in thickness, tome it would be within tolerances since I haven' noticed it in 6 weeks. I likely wouldn't have if not for this thread.
I guess it depends on just how picky you are.

zak98 · 8 October 2010, 10:53 PM

welcome and congrats. there should be no splotchy-ness to your lume.. that would be an issue for me to. take it back, if they have another one in the store, ask to compare yours to the one in stock.. both for lume color and the splotchy-ness.

kokota · 8 October 2010, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoPanda

I'm not too concerned about the lume colour. It's more the patchy appearance of it under bright conditions. Maybe I expect too much? Are others like this?

Here's what mine looks like. How does it compare to yours?

DiscoPanda · 10 October 2010, 08:17 AM

Mine doesn't appear as crisp, and has a dark grey bit in the centre, as do several of the hour markers.

It's going back tomorrow for a refund (I never took the stickers off or wore it)

I'm gutted. I love it, but for £4.5k it needs to be better. Maybe I just unlucky? Looks like I'll be waiting longer to be a Rolex owner :(

darthmouse · 10 October 2010, 08:28 AM

In bright light I notice the same thing. However, it's not horribly obvious, so I don't mind.

But if it bothers you, I'd definitely agree that you should take it back.

esm · 10 October 2010, 08:41 AM

welcome and congrats! the Sub-C is an amazing piece of kit!

here is another compario lume shot between the 16610LV and 116610LN

mcubed · 10 October 2010, 09:38 AM

I believe the Lume is applied as a liquid, like a paint. I don't think it is uncommon for there to be slight variations across the surface, my 14060m is like that.

If you would like some advice, I would say unless there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with your watch (like marker fell off, or it runs backwards) I would stop looking for flaws and just enjoy it. There has been enough posted on forums over the years that we know that Rolex watches are not flawless, I have seen too many new owners making trips back to the AD, arguing over little imperfections and tarnishing their experience, because they are picking apart their watches with a fine tooth comb. I am fairly sure your watch is within the range of normal variation-so put the loupe, or high end lens DOWN, place your watch on your wrist and wear it. When it acts up (or every five years) bring it in, pressure test it once a year and let it do its job, which is to tell time reliably.

Tools · 10 October 2010, 10:02 AM

This comes up ocassionally...........

The Lume is not always "flawless". It's an opaque paint matrix that is applied over a black dial and under certain light, you can see through the matrix.. Any variation is especially noticeable in the newer larger indices, but especially under magnification...

I suppose that if you are having buyers remorse, you should take it back so that you can have peace-of-mind.. But not because you believe the lume is faulty - unless it actually is..

mike · 10 October 2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

welcome and congrats! the Sub-C is an amazing piece of kit!

here is another compario lume shot between the 16610LV and 116610LN

nauticajoe · 10 October 2010, 10:19 AM

Congrats on the Sub-C!

The lume is definitely blue. Have it fully charged to get the full effect.

As many have already mentioned, Rolex is not known for the lume, but I can live with that considering they're known to make one of the best watches in the world.

ArcticMoose · 10 October 2010, 10:27 AM

Every single Rolex I've ever looked at has had the splotchy lume. If you can't see it you're just not OC enough.

MortgageGuy · 10 October 2010, 11:07 AM

I would agree, stop looking so closely. Peel off the stickers, slap it on your wrist and enjoy

You have just purchased one of the finest timepieces $$$ can buy

Lets see some pics of your new beauty

HL65 · 10 October 2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

I would agree, stop looking so closely. Peel off the stickers, slap it on your wrist and enjoy

You have just purchased one of the finest timepieces $$$ can buy

Lets see some pics of your new beauty

Exactly!!!!

Shade · 10 October 2010, 11:43 AM

There may be slight variations on the lume, as stated before it was in liquid form when it was applied. And they dry at different rates... So as long as it's not THAT bad, I think it should be normal.

And I reckon it should be blue... at least blue-r than the previous versions.

Michael M. · 10 October 2010, 11:49 AM

Congrats on the 116610ln!!!!!!!!!

niner niner seven · 10 October 2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokota

Here's what mine looks like. How does it compare to yours?

since obviously you take good photos, can we see a photo of the watch dial illuminated?

dalip · 10 October 2010, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

welcome and congrats! the Sub-C is an amazing piece of kit!

here is another compario lume shot between the 16610LV and 116610LN

Great shot Eric

dligg72 · 10 October 2010, 02:22 PM

I think I have an answer for the "dirty bits". If your watch is held briefly under sunlight or artificial light the minute hand can block some of the loom and make it appear that that area is not illuminating. Also if held exposed to light at an angle some areas of the loom are exposed to various intensities of light, try holding it under light for a longer period of time. It should work just fine.

DRKBC · 10 October 2010, 02:27 PM

Don't expect it to be bright like a Seiko. It's more like a fine wine from France as opposed to one that tastes great for half the price from Australia ... It's more complex and it has history.

padi56 · 10 October 2010, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

This comes up ocassionally...........

The Lume is not always "flawless". It's an opaque paint matrix that is applied over a black dial and under certain light, you can see through the matrix.. Any variation is especially noticeable in the newer larger indices, but especially under magnification...

I suppose that if you are having buyers remorse, you should take it back so that you can have peace-of-mind.. But not because you believe the lume is faulty - unless it actually is..

Have to agree Larry many time a loupe can be a modern day Rolex watch owners worst enemy.

8 October 2010, 09:25 PM	#1
DiscoPanda "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Philip Location: Scotland Posts: 52	Got my first Rolex (Submariner): lume questions Hi guys, I picked up my first Rolex yesterday - the new Submariner 116610LN. I have a query about Rolex lume - the lume on the markers in sunlight/normal lighting looks patchy and non-uniform i.e. some bits within the hour markers and 12 o'clock triangle look 'dirty'. Is this as it should be? Normal? Second, the book says its a blue loom but its mopre green than anything. I know you'l say OCD lol, but I've spent a fortune on something and I just want to know its all as it should be. Thank you!

8 October 2010, 10:53 PM	#11
zak98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TN Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,166	welcome and congrats. there should be no splotchy-ness to your lume.. that would be an issue for me to. take it back, if they have another one in the store, ask to compare yours to the one in stock.. both for lume color and the splotchy-ness. __________________ Z- Submariner; P- Airking; R- DateJust; M- GMTII; C0 - Milgauss GV Breitling SuperOcean Heritage 46 Omega Speedmaster Racing Panerai PAM390

10 October 2010, 09:38 AM	#16
mcubed "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: US Posts: 468	I believe the Lume is applied as a liquid, like a paint. I don't think it is uncommon for there to be slight variations across the surface, my 14060m is like that. If you would like some advice, I would say unless there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with your watch (like marker fell off, or it runs backwards) I would stop looking for flaws and just enjoy it. There has been enough posted on forums over the years that we know that Rolex watches are not flawless, I have seen too many new owners making trips back to the AD, arguing over little imperfections and tarnishing their experience, because they are picking apart their watches with a fine tooth comb. I am fairly sure your watch is within the range of normal variation-so put the loupe, or high end lens DOWN, place your watch on your wrist and wear it. When it acts up (or every five years) bring it in, pressure test it once a year and let it do its job, which is to tell time reliably. __________________ The safest place for Your Rolex is on Your wrist 2002 Rolex Submariner 14060 1963 Omega Automatic LL6304 1953 Wittnauer Revue 2009 Swiss Army Divemaster 500

10 October 2010, 10:02 AM	#17
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,494	This comes up ocassionally........... The Lume is not always "flawless". It's an opaque paint matrix that is applied over a black dial and under certain light, you can see through the matrix.. Any variation is especially noticeable in the newer larger indices, but especially under magnification... I suppose that if you are having buyers remorse, you should take it back so that you can have peace-of-mind.. But not because you believe the lume is faulty - unless it actually is.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

10 October 2010, 10:27 AM	#20
ArcticMoose "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Sea Posts: 1,894	Every single Rolex I've ever looked at has had the splotchy lume. If you can't see it you're just not OC enough. Last edited by ArcticMoose; 10 October 2010 at 11:11 AM.. Reason: Typo

8 October 2010, 09:41 PM	#3
Traveler Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 374	If the watch you are refering to is the new Submariner LN..then the lume should definitely be blue color. Where did you purchase the watch ? Was it BNIB from an AD ?

8 October 2010, 09:52 PM	#5
DiscoPanda "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Philip Location: Scotland Posts: 52	Brand new in the box from a dealer yesterday.

8 October 2010, 09:54 PM	#6
kokota 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 1,276	The lume on the 116610LN does look blue compared with the lume on the previous sub. (See pic below) I guess you have to have them side by side to see the difference. As for the inconsistency in your markers maybe take it up with your AD or the closest RSC. Post a pic if you can and congrats on the new Sub!

8 October 2010, 10:35 PM	#8
slevin kelevra "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland Watch: 14060m Posts: 631	The lume should be flawless. If not return it ASAP. Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot of reports of defects with the new Subs?

8 October 2010, 10:53 PM	#10
Danand "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Ottawa Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,246	I never noticed anything wrong with mine but after this post in looking very closely ( ( with a 3.5 x loupes there is a slight patchiness to the 12 triangle. It looks like a slight variation in thickness, tome it would be within tolerances since I haven' noticed it in 6 weeks. I likely wouldn't have if not for this thread. I guess it depends on just how picky you are.

10 October 2010, 08:17 AM	#13
DiscoPanda "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Philip Location: Scotland Posts: 52	Mine doesn't appear as crisp, and has a dark grey bit in the centre, as do several of the hour markers. It's going back tomorrow for a refund (I never took the stickers off or wore it) I'm gutted. I love it, but for £4.5k it needs to be better. Maybe I just unlucky? Looks like I'll be waiting longer to be a Rolex owner :(

10 October 2010, 08:28 AM	#14
darthmouse "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: EC/Midwest Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,016	In bright light I notice the same thing. However, it's not horribly obvious, so I don't mind. But if it bothers you, I'd definitely agree that you should take it back.

10 October 2010, 08:41 AM	#15
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	welcome and congrats! the Sub-C is an amazing piece of kit! here is another compario lume shot between the 16610LV and 116610LN

10 October 2010, 10:19 AM	#19
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Congrats on the Sub-C! The lume is definitely blue. Have it fully charged to get the full effect. As many have already mentioned, Rolex is not known for the lume, but I can live with that considering they're known to make one of the best watches in the world.

10 October 2010, 11:07 AM	#21
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	I would agree, stop looking so closely. Peel off the stickers, slap it on your wrist and enjoy You have just purchased one of the finest timepieces $$$ can buy Lets see some pics of your new beauty __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

10 October 2010, 11:43 AM	#23
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	There may be slight variations on the lume, as stated before it was in liquid form when it was applied. And they dry at different rates... So as long as it's not THAT bad, I think it should be normal. And I reckon it should be blue... at least blue-r than the previous versions. __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

10 October 2010, 11:49 AM	#24
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Congrats on the 116610ln!!!!!!!!!

10 October 2010, 02:22 PM	#27
dligg72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: california Posts: 138	I think I have an answer for the "dirty bits". If your watch is held briefly under sunlight or artificial light the minute hand can block some of the loom and make it appear that that area is not illuminating. Also if held exposed to light at an angle some areas of the loom are exposed to various intensities of light, try holding it under light for a longer period of time. It should work just fine.

10 October 2010, 02:27 PM	#28
DRKBC "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Watch: 114060, BLNR Posts: 739	Don't expect it to be bright like a Seiko. It's more like a fine wine from France as opposed to one that tastes great for half the price from Australia ... It's more complex and it has history.

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