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seanneok11 · 21 March 2007, 03:48 PM

Would you guys buy a watch rolex with no papers but it is brand new.

Gaijin · 21 March 2007, 04:05 PM

Depends on the price and if I can verify that it is authentic. Generally speaking no, because it would be dificult to re-sell.

miner · 21 March 2007, 04:09 PM

Depends who I'm buying it from!!

If its a bloke I know or who has good references then yes I would.

If its Fred Bloggs with a brand new sub then no I wouldn't!

Alex Stylianou · 21 March 2007, 04:46 PM

Depends on the seller.

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gmt 16750 · 21 March 2007, 05:10 PM

If it's new then No, I can understand vintage ones not having their box & papers anymore but a brand new one def. should - can't think of a (legal) reason why it shouldn't.

JJ Irani · 21 March 2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanneok11

Would you guys buy a watch rolex with no papers but it is brand new.

NO!!! If it's brand new, I see no reason why the papers shouldn't come along with it.

When I buy a watch, it HAS to be brand new with all the bells and whistles that come with it.....only then do I consider it as BRAND SPANKING NEW!!!

ohlins · 21 March 2007, 05:32 PM

brand new = bought from AD.....

brand new in box from grey dealer = preowned........

Obsession · 21 March 2007, 06:26 PM

I will not buy,there must be box,papers there should be country code on paper the letter indicating year and the serial number that matches with the serial number on the watch even I have no chance to open and check the new watch.

akrapovic · 21 March 2007, 06:34 PM

I would not buy a "new" one without papers and box.

Tombstone · 21 March 2007, 08:46 PM

Yes I agree I would want to see the certificate/papers. No Rolex certificate/papers on a new watch is suspicious to me. You could see if the original AD the watch was purchased at has a copy of the certificate on file. If this is the case, it would be very easy to compare the serial number on the watch with what is on the copy of the certificate. My AD makes copies of all Rolex certificates/sales and holds them for several years. Why, I do not know, I was once told that the certificate photocopy is sent into Rolex USA for warrantee purposes. I do not know if this is true either, does anyone know if this is true or an urban legend?

SDman · 21 March 2007, 09:51 PM

Only if I knew the person but re selling it would be hard not unless its vintage....

montecristo · 21 March 2007, 09:52 PM

If its a casio or timex.

SDman · 21 March 2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by montecristo

If its a casio or timex.

Amen to that or maybe include Suunto on the list and a Traser...yeah

nko51 · 21 March 2007, 10:28 PM

Depends on seller, and if he had sold before!

Solo118 · 22 March 2007, 03:58 AM

Depends on price, But overall how much can you actually be saving if its brand new? Couple hundred at best... Your better off making a deal with an AD and having peace of mind

roadcarver · 22 March 2007, 04:40 AM

I agree with JJ. If its brand new from an AD, no reason why it shouldn't come with papers.

If pre-owned then there are a lot of ways to go about this.

1. Price
2. Seller
3. RSC verification of the piece
4. Vintage

viper · 22 March 2007, 07:12 AM

depends on the discount.. if you're not a "flipper" & want to enjoy it then get it. if the watch is real who cares about papers. i never even look at mine. if i know its real thats all that matters.

tonelar · 22 March 2007, 09:10 AM

Not only is it a point if you intend on selling it. I'd have to know the seller personally before I'd consider taking possesion of anything property without proof it's not stolen.

21 March 2007, 03:48 PM	#1
seanneok11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: Sean Location: Los Angeles Watch: Ap,rolex, rolex Posts: 172	No PaperS!! Would you guys buy a watch rolex with no papers but it is brand new.

21 March 2007, 05:10 PM	#5
gmt 16750 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Neil Location: Borders, Scotland Watch: what your doing. Posts: 970	If it's new then No, I can understand vintage ones not having their box & papers anymore but a brand new one def. should - can't think of a (legal) reason why it shouldn't. __________________

21 March 2007, 05:32 PM	#7
ohlins "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,213	brand new = bought from AD..... brand new in box from grey dealer = preowned........ __________________ the hype is true. a crown for every achievement. visit my audio and watch blog & how to use the rolex comfort link?

21 March 2007, 09:52 PM	#12
montecristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Ken Location: New York Watch: 116234 DateJust Posts: 1,769	If its a casio or timex. __________________ My Rolex reference books collection: The Rolex Report: An Unauthorized Reference Book For The Rolex Enthusiast Rolex Wristwatches: An Unauthorized History (Schiffer Book for Collectors) (Hardcover) Vintage Rolex Sports Models: A Complete Visual Reference & Unauthorized History (Hardcover)

21 March 2007, 10:28 PM	#14
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	Depends on seller, and if he had sold before! __________________

21 March 2007, 04:05 PM	#2
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,173	Depends on the price and if I can verify that it is authentic. Generally speaking no, because it would be dificult to re-sell.

21 March 2007, 04:09 PM	#3
miner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,294	Depends who I'm buying it from!! If its a bloke I know or who has good references then yes I would. If its Fred Bloggs with a brand new sub then no I wouldn't!

21 March 2007, 04:46 PM	#4
Alex Stylianou "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,785	Depends on the seller. WOOOOOOOOO 500th Post

21 March 2007, 06:26 PM	#8
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	I will not buy,there must be box,papers there should be country code on paper the letter indicating year and the serial number that matches with the serial number on the watch even I have no chance to open and check the new watch.

21 March 2007, 06:34 PM	#9
akrapovic "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan Watch: Daytona,Sub,Pepsi Posts: 81	I would not buy a "new" one without papers and box.

21 March 2007, 08:46 PM	#10
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	Yes I agree I would want to see the certificate/papers. No Rolex certificate/papers on a new watch is suspicious to me. You could see if the original AD the watch was purchased at has a copy of the certificate on file. If this is the case, it would be very easy to compare the serial number on the watch with what is on the copy of the certificate. My AD makes copies of all Rolex certificates/sales and holds them for several years. Why, I do not know, I was once told that the certificate photocopy is sent into Rolex USA for warrantee purposes. I do not know if this is true either, does anyone know if this is true or an urban legend?

21 March 2007, 09:51 PM	#11
SDman Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Pat Location: Australia Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 152	Only if I knew the person but re selling it would be hard not unless its vintage....

22 March 2007, 03:58 AM	#15
Solo118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 6,125	Depends on price, But overall how much can you actually be saving if its brand new? Couple hundred at best... Your better off making a deal with an AD and having peace of mind

22 March 2007, 04:40 AM	#16
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	I agree with JJ. If its brand new from an AD, no reason why it shouldn't come with papers. If pre-owned then there are a lot of ways to go about this. 1. Price 2. Seller 3. RSC verification of the piece 4. Vintage __________________ I'm just a cook...

22 March 2007, 07:12 AM	#17
viper "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 943	depends on the discount.. if you're not a "flipper" & want to enjoy it then get it. if the watch is real who cares about papers. i never even look at mine. if i know its real thats all that matters.

22 March 2007, 09:10 AM	#18
tonelar "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Tony Location: san francisco Watch: Seadweller Posts: 1,370	Not only is it a point if you intend on selling it. I'd have to know the seller personally before I'd consider taking possesion of anything property without proof it's not stolen. __________________ It's a rarity that something popular is actually right... Wear 'em with PRIDE, y'all.

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