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Eric88 · 8 November 2010, 02:43 AM

Not sure how many folks have noticed that the new Subs have not only wider lugs, but also straight brushed texture that matches the bracelet. The previous model Subs (and many other Rolex) have the lugs brushed in a diagonal direction that meets the bracelet and makes the watch head stand out a little more.

I don't think one is better than the other -- they are different and both appealing. The new approach makes the watch head and bracelet appear to be a singular unified design element and it is elegant. The older style has a little bit more aggressive look -- appropriate for a tool watch.

Any other thoughts on the change here? Please discuss.

New style

Old style

STEELINOX · 8 November 2010, 02:45 AM

diagonals !

Speed · 8 November 2010, 02:47 AM

Keen observation Eric.

I can get as anal as the next WIS, but I think both methods are fine and look great!

Cru Jones · 8 November 2010, 02:52 AM

Probably too much surface area on the new lugs to have the diagonal brush, which would have accentuated how narrow the bracelet is in comparison to the lugs. The vertical brush therefore gives a bit more impression that the bracelet and lugs fit together.

Given the overall designs of new vs. old, I think, therefore, that Rolex got the lug brushing correct on both models.

brandxbrand · 8 November 2010, 03:00 AM

Diagonal for life. Otherwise it just looks like its been through a belt sander.

bry1975 · 8 November 2010, 03:06 AM

IMO I prefer the straight brush finish much easier to rebrush. :D

phiengin · 8 November 2010, 04:14 AM

Was just comparing my 16710 with my sub C lugs. I agree with you that both are appealing but if I have to choose, I think I prefer diagonals

robsteve · 8 November 2010, 05:58 AM

The straight brushed will be harder to touch up/refinish than the diagonal. Will probably be a job best left to Rolex. I suspect the bezel and crystal would have to be off and the whole watch done at once to keep the lines parallel.

Robert

geronimo509 · 8 November 2010, 06:34 AM

can someone post a better pic of a sub c. I cant compare them with the pic that is up there

Dweller of the Sea · 8 November 2010, 06:43 AM

Diagonal would not look good on the new bigger/wider lugs.
Straight brush looks good on the new bigger lugs

On the old models only diagonal. I have seen a few 16610 with straight brush after a service, that just looks wrong.

Eric88 · 8 November 2010, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geronimo509

can someone post a better pic of a sub c. I cant compare them with the pic that is up there

Here are some nice ones.

And more here.

Credit ASW1 for this one that shows the new Sub-C brushing direction well.

kokota · 8 November 2010, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geronimo509

can someone post a better pic of a sub c. I cant compare them with the pic that is up there

Here you go

geronimo509 · 8 November 2010, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokota

Here you go

Can you get any closer, I still can't see it

I agree, straight brush on sub c and diagonal on the older sub.

Engi · 8 November 2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Probably too much surface area on the new lugs to have the diagonal brush, which would have accentuated how narrow the bracelet is in comparison to the lugs. The vertical brush therefore gives a bit more impression that the bracelet and lugs fit together.

Given the overall designs of new vs. old, I think, therefore, that Rolex got the lug brushing correct on both models.

Good point.

In any case on the 116610 straight is better, IMHO

Ciao

Engi

EchoBlueUK · 8 November 2010, 08:27 AM

IMHO straight looks better and neater somehow.

Lol-x · 8 November 2010, 08:43 AM

Cru Jones excellent analysis

I agree

Eric88 · 8 November 2010, 08:56 AM

Great comments in this thread! It is interesting that the straight brushing on the Sub-C lugs has a "creamier" smooth look and it does help to make those ginormous shoulders blend with the narrow bracelet. The brushing technique almost makes the lugs appear to round over more and has a more mellow appearance on the wrist. Hard to describe it in words.

matt.wu · 8 November 2010, 10:54 AM

I noticed this too, Eric. When I had my Milgauss brushed, I specifically asked Jack to do it diagonally, in the same fashion as the older Subs and Explorers.

Eric88 · 8 November 2010, 11:36 AM

Matt, how was the Milgauss originally brushed? Photos?

Colnago · 8 November 2010, 01:36 PM

My GMTIIc is brushed that way too....must be a maxi-case thing......I like both...

Submarino · 8 November 2010, 03:27 PM

Beautiful pics of that SubC

Chris B · 8 November 2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colnago

My GMTIIc is brushed that way too....must be a maxi-case thing......I like both...

unclesallie · 8 November 2010, 07:03 PM

i never would have noticed the difference on my own!

chirojared · 10 November 2010, 12:47 AM

Nice observation. Just noticed the diagonal brushing on my GMT 16710

matt.wu · 10 November 2010, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric88

Matt, how was the Milgauss originally brushed? Photos?

Eric, the Milgauss was originally polished!

I had Jack custom brush it, and I specifically requested diagonal brushing. I think the Milgauss, not having lugs quite as boxy as the newer ceramic sport models, can handle it well.

I am not exaggerating at all when I say I love it infinitely more now than I did when it arrived as new. Brushed (whether diagonal or vertical) is how this watch was meant to be.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=147750

matt.wu · 10 November 2010, 04:45 PM

You can see it a bit in this pic:

8 November 2010, 02:43 AM	#1
Eric88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 88 keys Posts: 2,241	Brushed lugs on Subs - New straight approach vs. diagonal brushing Not sure how many folks have noticed that the new Subs have not only wider lugs, but also straight brushed texture that matches the bracelet. The previous model Subs (and many other Rolex) have the lugs brushed in a diagonal direction that meets the bracelet and makes the watch head stand out a little more. I don't think one is better than the other -- they are different and both appealing. The new approach makes the watch head and bracelet appear to be a singular unified design element and it is elegant. The older style has a little bit more aggressive look -- appropriate for a tool watch. Any other thoughts on the change here? Please discuss. New style Old style

8 November 2010, 02:45 AM	#2
STEELINOX 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,024	diagonals ! __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN THAI - TAY - NEE - UMM

8 November 2010, 04:14 AM	#7
phiengin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Watch: 1680, 1675 Posts: 343	Good observation. Was just comparing my 16710 with my sub C lugs. I agree with you that both are appealing but if I have to choose, I think I prefer diagonals

8 November 2010, 08:43 AM	#16
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,689	Cru Jones excellent analysis I agree __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

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Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	My GMTIIc is brushed that way too....must be a maxi-case thing......I like both... __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

8 November 2010, 02:47 AM	#3
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,741	Keen observation Eric. I can get as anal as the next WIS, but I think both methods are fine and look great!

8 November 2010, 02:52 AM	#4
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,620	Probably too much surface area on the new lugs to have the diagonal brush, which would have accentuated how narrow the bracelet is in comparison to the lugs. The vertical brush therefore gives a bit more impression that the bracelet and lugs fit together. Given the overall designs of new vs. old, I think, therefore, that Rolex got the lug brushing correct on both models.

8 November 2010, 03:00 AM	#5
brandxbrand "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: Concord, Ma Watch: your back Posts: 422	Diagonal for life. Otherwise it just looks like its been through a belt sander.

8 November 2010, 03:06 AM	#6
bry1975 Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: England Posts: 83	IMO I prefer the straight brush finish much easier to rebrush. :D

8 November 2010, 05:58 AM	#8
robsteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 776	The straight brushed will be harder to touch up/refinish than the diagonal. Will probably be a job best left to Rolex. I suspect the bezel and crystal would have to be off and the whole watch done at once to keep the lines parallel. Robert

8 November 2010, 06:34 AM	#9
geronimo509 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: DFW Watch: 16610 Posts: 558	can someone post a better pic of a sub c. I cant compare them with the pic that is up there

8 November 2010, 06:43 AM	#10
Dweller of the Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: EU Watch: ing TRF Posts: 576	Diagonal would not look good on the new bigger/wider lugs. Straight brush looks good on the new bigger lugs On the old models only diagonal. I have seen a few 16610 with straight brush after a service, that just looks wrong.

8 November 2010, 08:27 AM	#15
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	IMHO straight looks better and neater somehow.

8 November 2010, 08:56 AM	#17
Eric88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 88 keys Posts: 2,241	Great comments in this thread! It is interesting that the straight brushing on the Sub-C lugs has a "creamier" smooth look and it does help to make those ginormous shoulders blend with the narrow bracelet. The brushing technique almost makes the lugs appear to round over more and has a more mellow appearance on the wrist. Hard to describe it in words.

8 November 2010, 10:54 AM	#18
matt.wu "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 884	I noticed this too, Eric. When I had my Milgauss brushed, I specifically asked Jack to do it diagonally, in the same fashion as the older Subs and Explorers.

8 November 2010, 11:36 AM	#19
Eric88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 88 keys Posts: 2,241	Matt, how was the Milgauss originally brushed? Photos?

8 November 2010, 03:27 PM	#21
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	Beautiful pics of that SubC __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

8 November 2010, 07:03 PM	#23
unclesallie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: dan Location: Pennsylvania Watch: keystone pocket Posts: 5,917	i never would have noticed the difference on my own!

10 November 2010, 12:47 AM	#24
chirojared "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Jared Location: New York Watch: Rolex Sub-C Posts: 110	Nice observation. Just noticed the diagonal brushing on my GMT 16710

10 November 2010, 04:45 PM	#26
matt.wu "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 884	You can see it a bit in this pic:

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