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rexsub · 26 March 2007, 07:45 AM

Tomorrow (Monday) I am planning on buying a used TT Sub. I met the seller yesterday and everything seems to check out w papers and numbers (Mayors in Ft Myers seperated the bracelet and case to verify).

My only reservation is the hologram and this is where I need an opinion...fast.

The watch has a hologram protector and when I removed the protector the hologram looks like a solid green circle with a crown in gold and 16613 in gold below the crown.

Is it possible that the 1999 hologram reflection has worn off leaving the green circle?

What most concerns me is that online web resources say that Rolex did not start putting the crown on the hologram above the model number til 2002. Can anyone confirm this? In other words, would a 1999 16613 orig hologram have had a gold crown and gold 16613 model #?

I really want this watch as everything else seems to check out.

Note that I have not had the back removed and will pay to have this done as a last resort.

Regards and thanks !
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padi56 · 26 March 2007, 06:51 PM

Well don't worry about a hologram if bracelet has been removed and serial checks out with the papers.Thats the most important,and if it checks out fine,thats a very good sign.But for your peace of mind,same Mayors could get back off to check to be 100% sure.The hologram is just in reality a useless bit of paper.Welcome to TRF

Alcan · 26 March 2007, 08:49 PM

Hi Rex, welcome to TRF.

Good luck with the TT Sub. Is it black or blue?

nko51 · 26 March 2007, 10:25 PM

Where are the Pic's my man!

madformac · 27 March 2007, 03:09 AM

If its a 1999 model with a green sticker and gold crown then it checks out as correct. Its only in recent years Rolex changed to the hologram sticker. I recall my old Date Rolex from '99 with the same sticker from an AD. You shouldn't have any worries.

JJ Irani · 27 March 2007, 04:36 AM

Welcome to TRF, Rex. Good luck with the purchase and do post some pics as soon as you get it.

Cheers - JJ

26 March 2007, 07:45 AM	#1
rexsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto Watch: GMTIIC TT & PAM312 Posts: 51	TT Sub - urgent advice re hologram please Tomorrow (Monday) I am planning on buying a used TT Sub. I met the seller yesterday and everything seems to check out w papers and numbers (Mayors in Ft Myers seperated the bracelet and case to verify). My only reservation is the hologram and this is where I need an opinion...fast. The watch has a hologram protector and when I removed the protector the hologram looks like a solid green circle with a crown in gold and 16613 in gold below the crown. Is it possible that the 1999 hologram reflection has worn off leaving the green circle? What most concerns me is that online web resources say that Rolex did not start putting the crown on the hologram above the model number til 2002. Can anyone confirm this? In other words, would a 1999 16613 orig hologram have had a gold crown and gold 16613 model #? I really want this watch as everything else seems to check out. Note that I have not had the back removed and will pay to have this done as a last resort. Regards and thanks ! .

26 March 2007, 06:51 PM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,041	Well don't worry about a hologram if bracelet has been removed and serial checks out with the papers.Thats the most important,and if it checks out fine,thats a very good sign.But for your peace of mind,same Mayors could get back off to check to be 100% sure.The hologram is just in reality a useless bit of paper.Welcome to TRF __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

26 March 2007, 08:49 PM	#3
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Hi Rex, welcome to TRF. Good luck with the TT Sub. Is it black or blue? __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

26 March 2007, 10:25 PM	#4
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	Where are the Pic's my man! __________________

27 March 2007, 04:36 AM	#6
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Welcome to TRF, Rex. Good luck with the purchase and do post some pics as soon as you get it. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

27 March 2007, 03:09 AM	#5
madformac "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Justin Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 708	If its a 1999 model with a green sticker and gold crown then it checks out as correct. Its only in recent years Rolex changed to the hologram sticker. I recall my old Date Rolex from '99 with the same sticker from an AD. You shouldn't have any worries.

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