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grbec22 · 22 December 2010, 11:48 PM

What do you think rolex's biggest improvement for the sub over the years?

Lol-x · 22 December 2010, 11:53 PM

It is hard to say one thing as there are so many attributes that go to make this watch what it is today. The movement, the maxi dial and hands, Oyster case and the triple lock crown.

Not to mention the new bracelet and clasp with micro on the fly adjustment.

SaddleSC · 22 December 2010, 11:54 PM

It was when they put the HE valve on the side, attached a thicker crystal, took off the cyclops and called it the Sea Dweller.

rolexertion · 23 December 2010, 12:23 AM

Bracelet and clasp.

padi56 · 23 December 2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by grbec22

What do you think rolex's biggest improvement for the sub over the years?

Well since the introduction of the Cal 3135 in 1988 the biggest improvement IMHO was the SEL bracelet.Now we have a new type bracelet/clasp and ceramic insert,but only time will tell if they are a real improvement over the 16610.The maxi dial is not something new but myself prefer the maxi type dials like the vintage ones without the gold surrounds.The introduction of the luminover and super luminover dials were a improvement over the Tritium dials but dial lume is not all that important to myself.The movements since the 15XX series have a well proved track record for longevity of life and accuracy same could said for the 3XXX series.So IMHO most improvements over the years have been purely cosmetic and I would not class as real improvements.But one thing you can be sure of when buying a Rolex watch. That with a little care from yourself, it will last a lifetime and beyond, don't think anyone could improve on that.

fc3s2k · 23 December 2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexertion

Bracelet and clasp.

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Maxi dial, ceramic bezel, blue lume, etc. Are just a bonus!!

Fiery · 23 December 2010, 04:12 AM

For me the solid bracelet with the GlideLock clasp seem the best improvement Rolex could have possibly done to the Sub. Now if they could put that on the 14060M in 2011.........

Dan2010 · 23 December 2010, 04:32 AM

Bracelet and clasp.

Dan2010 · 23 December 2010, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiery

For me the solid bracelet with the GlideLock clasp seem the best improvement Rolex could have possibly done to the Sub. Now if they could put that on the 14060M in 2011.........

I agree about the 14060M as I want to get another one of those and it would be GREAT if it had the new bracelet and clasp.

MortgageGuy · 23 December 2010, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SaddleSC

It was when they put the HE valve on the side, attached a thicker crystal, took off the cyclops and called it the Sea Dweller.

MortgageGuy · 23 December 2010, 04:35 AM

I would personally say it is the maxi dial and the new clasp... IMO

Roxas · 23 December 2010, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexertion

bracelet and clasp.

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mike · 23 December 2010, 04:36 AM

Over the years?

From a tool stand point the use of a unidirectional bezel and (though I prefer acryllic) the addition of a sapphire crystal.

I know movements always get mentioned and the 3xxx fast beats are hard to argue with, but the 15xxs were real work horses.

Roxas · 23 December 2010, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Well since the introduction of the Cal 3135 in 1988 the biggest improvement IMHO was the SEL bracelet.

I'm wondering why you think just SEL is a better improvement than solid center links?

mickyvee · 23 December 2010, 04:44 AM

I don't think there has been any improvement over my 16610. I don't care for the maxi dial, and I have no problem with my bracelet. I recently had my bezel insert replaced, for £35. I'll stick with old school!

RRGHOST1 · 23 December 2010, 06:37 AM

Like padi56 i prefer the maxi dial without the WG surrounds, i just think the dial looks better all round. As for the bracelet,the new one might be better but the old types are still going strong and were comfortable so as an improvement, not so sure.

The GMT Master · 23 December 2010, 06:42 AM

It would be Glidelock for me - they've gone from having a functional, but basic clasp to having one of the best executed clasp concepts of just about anyone on the market today. It's a fantastic idea, I just wish they put it on more than just their divers

EchoBlueUK · 23 December 2010, 07:37 AM

SubC's Bracelet and Clasp.

grbec22 · 23 December 2010, 08:17 AM

why the 14060?

xjeeunitx · 23 December 2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

SubC's Bracelet and Clasp.

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grbec22 · 23 December 2010, 08:41 AM

little more than that please.

Gerardus · 23 December 2010, 08:42 AM

The list-price

grbec22 · 23 December 2010, 08:48 AM

how about what is so special about the 14060m

mborkow · 23 December 2010, 09:44 AM

depth rating

mountainrivera · 23 December 2010, 10:45 AM

Bracelet: TT solid center links and clasp. Older bracelets don't compare and are lacking for such an expensive watch.....IMO. Ceramic is also an improvement.

Gottog · 23 December 2010, 11:04 AM

Did anyone mention the Bracelet and Clasp?

B. Doggy · 23 December 2010, 11:40 AM

I like the new bracelet. However, I tried on the new SUB and it just wasn't for me. The proportions don't appear correct. IMHO..

lrpepin · 23 December 2010, 11:46 AM

price up costs 250.00 to make now

wokafu · 23 December 2010, 12:16 PM

Bracelet and clasp.

SS Oyster · 23 December 2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rolexertion

bracelet and clasp.

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22 December 2010, 11:48 PM	#1
grbec22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: ny Posts: 38	biggest improvement for the sub? What do you think rolex's biggest improvement for the sub over the years?

22 December 2010, 11:53 PM	#2
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,555	It is hard to say one thing as there are so many attributes that go to make this watch what it is today. The movement, the maxi dial and hands, Oyster case and the triple lock crown. Not to mention the new bracelet and clasp with micro on the fly adjustment. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

22 December 2010, 11:54 PM	#3
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	It was when they put the HE valve on the side, attached a thicker crystal, took off the cyclops and called it the Sea Dweller. __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

23 December 2010, 04:35 AM	#11
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	I would personally say it is the maxi dial and the new clasp... IMO __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

23 December 2010, 08:42 AM	#22
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,129	The list-price __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

23 December 2010, 12:23 AM	#4
rolexertion Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montreal, PQ Posts: 722	Bracelet and clasp.

23 December 2010, 04:12 AM	#7
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	For me the solid bracelet with the GlideLock clasp seem the best improvement Rolex could have possibly done to the Sub. Now if they could put that on the 14060M in 2011.........

23 December 2010, 04:32 AM	#8
Dan2010 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Carolina Watch: Panerai 914 Posts: 6,540	Bracelet and clasp.

23 December 2010, 04:36 AM	#13
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Over the years? From a tool stand point the use of a unidirectional bezel and (though I prefer acryllic) the addition of a sapphire crystal. I know movements always get mentioned and the 3xxx fast beats are hard to argue with, but the 15xxs were real work horses.

23 December 2010, 04:44 AM	#15
mickyvee Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: mick vigano Location: UK Watch: SS Sub 16610 Posts: 263	I don't think there has been any improvement over my 16610. I don't care for the maxi dial, and I have no problem with my bracelet. I recently had my bezel insert replaced, for £35. I'll stick with old school!

23 December 2010, 06:37 AM	#16
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,992	Like padi56 i prefer the maxi dial without the WG surrounds, i just think the dial looks better all round. As for the bracelet,the new one might be better but the old types are still going strong and were comfortable so as an improvement, not so sure.

23 December 2010, 06:42 AM	#17
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	It would be Glidelock for me - they've gone from having a functional, but basic clasp to having one of the best executed clasp concepts of just about anyone on the market today. It's a fantastic idea, I just wish they put it on more than just their divers

23 December 2010, 07:37 AM	#18
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	SubC's Bracelet and Clasp.

23 December 2010, 08:17 AM	#19
grbec22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: ny Posts: 38	why the 14060?

23 December 2010, 08:41 AM	#21
grbec22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: ny Posts: 38	little more than that please.

23 December 2010, 08:48 AM	#23
grbec22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: ny Posts: 38	how about what is so special about the 14060m

23 December 2010, 09:44 AM	#24
mborkow "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: san francisco Watch: gmt2c pam372 Posts: 842	depth rating

23 December 2010, 10:45 AM	#25
mountainrivera "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Mike Location: Staten Island Posts: 256	Bracelet: TT solid center links and clasp. Older bracelets don't compare and are lacking for such an expensive watch.....IMO. Ceramic is also an improvement. __________________ "A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." Jack Dempsey

23 December 2010, 11:04 AM	#26
Gottog Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 168	Did anyone mention the Bracelet and Clasp?

23 December 2010, 11:40 AM	#27
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	I like the new bracelet. However, I tried on the new SUB and it just wasn't for me. The proportions don't appear correct. IMHO.. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

23 December 2010, 11:46 AM	#28
lrpepin "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: canada Posts: 178	they put the price up costs 250.00 to make now

23 December 2010, 12:16 PM	#29
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	Bracelet and clasp.

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