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expy2 · 2 January 2011, 05:01 AM

I bought a DSSD in september and, as mentioned in a past post, borrowed a link from my cousin's Subc. However, in truth i borrowed more than just a link! I had a few issues with the flip/lock glide/lock clasp on the deepsea, and much preferring the clasp on my cousin's Subc, asked if he wanted to do a swap. He did, but a while later he sold the Subc.

As much as I love the beastly deepsea, i simply can't afford more than one decent watch (it's questionable as to wether i can indeed afford one!), and have decided I would like to sell with the intention of picking up an explorer2 (new). Here is my problem: when I swapped claps I had no intention of EVER selling the DSSD – I suppose we have all been in the NEVER selling frame of mind only to renege – now, however, I want to sell but don't have the original clasp.

The watch is still, of course, 100 percent Rolex (and i personally much prefer the simpler, more robust, 'standard' glide lock), but not 100 percent original. Have I made my three-month-old, immaculate DSSD undesirable?

MonBK · 2 January 2011, 05:04 AM

Very much so.

HL65 · 2 January 2011, 05:04 AM

Yikes---find out who he sold it to and swap back! That is the only thing to do IMHO.

Sixxgrand1 · 2 January 2011, 05:05 AM

spot of bad luck....

mjm800 · 2 January 2011, 05:07 AM

Well you cetianly won't get what it would be worth complete. AD's say the DSSD's are hard to move as it is without the original band you may not like the offers you'll get.

Hell, you already have the watch what's not to afford. What's done, is done.

snog · 2 January 2011, 05:09 AM

soucre a replacement clasp might take a few weeks or you may need to buy a replacement from your AD,no prolbem! if you sell "as is" mostly likely the buyer will want a discount so you might as well save the hassle and swap it back.

as fpr selling the deepsea,do your sums and see if after the lose you will take will it be worth it? but if you really love the deepsea try and keep it as getting another one may never happen,the explorer is very different wear wise and size wise so make sure its not another mistake your about to walk into.

esm · 2 January 2011, 05:13 AM

Oh no. Such a bad luck. I'm surprised to find out that your cousin didn't tell you when he was selling his Sub-C.... He probably got a good price for it since it had a DSSD clasp.

As already suggested, your options are quite limited.... Good luck with it and hope it'd work out for you.

expy2 · 2 January 2011, 05:13 AM

Damn. That's what i thought, but i was kind of hoping it wouldn't matter so much! Live and learn, always the hard way it would seem.

MortgageGuy · 2 January 2011, 05:14 AM

Yes I would say this is a mistake... However based on what the re sale will be on the DSSD and what you paid (unless you got a great discount) I would assume you would not want to sell this watch right now. There are several in the For Sale section here on TRF BNIB for about $7800... and this is with the correct clasp

Sorry...

expy2 · 2 January 2011, 06:31 AM

Maybe the impending price rise will swallow up some of my loss (the price difference between a subc and DSSD clasp can't be too much, can it?). Can i just order a new clasp from an AD, or would the watch have to got to a service centre?

mjm800 · 2 January 2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by expy2

Can i just order a new clasp from an AD, or would the watch have to got to a service centre?

I don't think you can because Rolex wants the old clasp back before they will give you a new service clasp. Sine you do not have the old clasp they might not do it unless you buy a new bracelet then you get the clasp with it.

I just went through this with a Daytona clasp. I wanted a new clasp I had the watch in hand with the original clasp they said sure but we need the old clasp. I said huh, it's mine I paid for it shouldn't I get to keep my old clasp plus the new one I am buying. They said no, Rolex will keep your old clasp, but I could buy a new bracelet for an unbelievable price and then I could keep my old clasp and have a new bracelet I did not need or want.

I understand that Rolex wants to keep track of parts and not have them being used by scamers but I got to buy a new bezel and keep my old one.

Sixxgrand1 · 2 January 2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mjm800

I don't think you can because Rolex wants the old clasp back before they will give you a new service clasp. Sine you do not have the old clasp they might not do it unless you buy a new bracelet then you get the clasp with it.

I just went through this with a Daytona clasp. I wanted a new clasp I had the watch in hand with the original clasp they said sure but we need the old clasp. I said huh, it's mine I paid for it shouldn't I get to keep my old clasp plus the new one I am buying. They said no, Rolex will keep your old clasp, but I could buy a new bracelet for an unbelievable price and then I could keep my old clasp and have a new bracelet I did not need or want.

I understand that Rolex wants to keep track of parts and not have them being used by scamers but I got to buy a new bezel and keep my old one.

Not sure that is accurate. I had my Rolex AD order a different clasp (I posted pix in a thread some time ago..) for my brand new Explorer II and Rolex delivered it and the AD installed it and gave me back the original clasp (brand new) without any conversation what so ever. In case I sell this EXPII and the new owner wants the original clasp I have it. So I think that ordering a new S code (service replacement) clasp from any AD would be a non issue - as I have experienced...not sure why you got the run around with your Daytona...

mjm800 · 2 January 2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixxgrand1

So I think that ordering a new S code (service replacement) clasp from any AD would be a non issue

Maybe that's it they were going to give me a new clasp not a service clasp; therefore, it would not have an S. In that case, I guess they keep the clasp.

I don't know that's just what they told me they would have to do and I declined, I'll go back and ask if I can get an S clasp and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for the input.

In the OP's case and S clasp does not help much he'll get the DSSD clasp back but the watch would still not be considered original.

expy2 · 2 January 2011, 09:10 AM

Maybe i will have to sell it with the Subc clasp and take the hit. It can't be more than a couple hundred pounds, right?

MonBK · 2 January 2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by expy2

Maybe i will have to sell it with the Subc clasp and take the hit. It can't be more than a couple hundred pounds, right?

You'll be the first to fid out.

harvey · 2 January 2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by expy2

Maybe the impending price rise will swallow up some of my loss (the price difference between a subc and DSSD clasp can't be too much, can it?). Can i just order a new clasp from an AD, or would the watch have to got to a service centre?

drop me a pm, i have a contact in an AD with a rolex parts account...i cant see it being much of an issue of getting my hands on one...

DCgator · 2 January 2011, 10:02 AM

If I understood correctly, the clasps on the DSSD and the SubC are interchangeable? If so I am interested in acquiring a SubC clasp as the orig DSSD clasp is a bit long for my small wrist. I'd just make sure to keep the orig DSSD clasp. Can anyone of you in the US help in ordering a SubC clasp? Pls PM me. Thanks!

George Ab · 2 January 2011, 10:23 AM

The guy who now owns the Sub-c should be just as interested in re-swapping the clasp as you. Get the information from your cousin, rationally explain the situation, and hope for the best.

spuds · 2 January 2011, 10:38 AM

I can't see your DSSD being worth much more than £25 now so I'll be more than fair & offer you £50.

Good luck sorting it mate.....

expy2 · 2 January 2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by spuds

I can't see your DSSD being worth much more than £25 now so I'll be more than fair & offer you £50.

Good luck sorting it mate.....

you are too kind!

457689 · 2 January 2011, 10:53 AM

after reading this thread, i got a headache.

kinda like listening to my wife talk about who's sleeping with whom amongst her friends.

just lose track and tune out after awhile...

expy2 · 2 January 2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

drop me a pm, i have a contact in an AD with a rolex parts account...i cant see it being much of an issue of getting my hands on one...

Thank you, i appreciate your help. I will try my luck with my AD and see what they say. However, i might well be back, cap-in-hand!

sea-dweller · 2 January 2011, 11:58 AM

Agreed!

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

Yikes---find out who he sold it to and swap back! That is the only thing to do IMHO.

toolr · 2 January 2011, 02:51 PM

One of the desirable features of the DeepSea is the Glidelock clasp. It also has to be the most complicated and expensive SS clasp Rolex makes. I would think you'll take a big hit trying to sell your essentially new DeepSea without it.

Sixxgrand1 · 3 January 2011, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjm800

Maybe that's it they were going to give me a new clasp not a service clasp; therefore, it would not have an S. In that case, I guess they keep the clasp.

I don't know that's just what they told me they would have to do and I declined, I'll go back and ask if I can get an S clasp and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for the input.

In the OP's case and S clasp does not help much he'll get the DSSD clasp back but the watch would still not be considered original.

Well have a look at my clasp. You see that S to the right of the E02. It might be a mm high - maybe not. I would have to cast a guess that 1 in 1,000,000 WIS might know what that S stands for EVEN if they noticed it. Still OEM equipment...!

KirkWilfred · 3 January 2011, 11:46 AM

Not good.....

Kevin Barrett · 3 January 2011, 02:02 PM

Just who mixes and matches bracelet links,clasps,and suchwhat on these
watches,and then just buys and sells without knowing whats going on?

Sounds crazy to me,these watches are many thousands of dollars,not costume jewellery....I must be old fashioned,Smells fishy.

expy2 · 3 January 2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Barrett

Just who mixes and matches bracelet links,clasps,and suchwhat on these
watches,and then just buys and sells without knowing whats going on?

Sounds crazy to me,these watches are many thousands of dollars,not costume jewellery....I must be old fashioned,Smells fishy.

I have just swapped a rolex clasp for one that i prefer. I have seen many people 'upgrading' the old type of clasp, do you think this is a problem also? The clasps are not thousands of dollars, and that is all i have change. So, as for your 'smells fishy', can you quantify that harsh accusation?

2 January 2011, 05:01 AM	#1
expy2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: England Posts: 204	Have i made a huge mistake? I bought a DSSD in september and, as mentioned in a past post, borrowed a link from my cousin's Subc. However, in truth i borrowed more than just a link! I had a few issues with the flip/lock glide/lock clasp on the deepsea, and much preferring the clasp on my cousin's Subc, asked if he wanted to do a swap. He did, but a while later he sold the Subc. As much as I love the beastly deepsea, i simply can't afford more than one decent watch (it's questionable as to wether i can indeed afford one!), and have decided I would like to sell with the intention of picking up an explorer2 (new). Here is my problem: when I swapped claps I had no intention of EVER selling the DSSD – I suppose we have all been in the NEVER selling frame of mind only to renege – now, however, I want to sell but don't have the original clasp. The watch is still, of course, 100 percent Rolex (and i personally much prefer the simpler, more robust, 'standard' glide lock), but not 100 percent original. Have I made my three-month-old, immaculate DSSD undesirable?

2 January 2011, 05:04 AM	#3
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,250	Yikes---find out who he sold it to and swap back! That is the only thing to do IMHO. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 January 2011, 05:07 AM	#5
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	Well you cetianly won't get what it would be worth complete. AD's say the DSSD's are hard to move as it is without the original band you may not like the offers you'll get. Hell, you already have the watch what's not to afford. What's done, is done. __________________

2 January 2011, 05:14 AM	#9
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Yes I would say this is a mistake... However based on what the re sale will be on the DSSD and what you paid (unless you got a great discount) I would assume you would not want to sell this watch right now. There are several in the For Sale section here on TRF BNIB for about $7800... and this is with the correct clasp Sorry... __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

2 January 2011, 10:23 AM	#18
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	The guy who now owns the Sub-c should be just as interested in re-swapping the clasp as you. Get the information from your cousin, rationally explain the situation, and hope for the best. __________________

2 January 2011, 05:04 AM	#2
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,277	Very much so.

2 January 2011, 05:05 AM	#4
Sixxgrand1 Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Watch: EXP I & II Posts: 825	spot of bad luck....

2 January 2011, 05:09 AM	#6
snog "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 908	soucre a replacement clasp might take a few weeks or you may need to buy a replacement from your AD,no prolbem! if you sell "as is" mostly likely the buyer will want a discount so you might as well save the hassle and swap it back. as fpr selling the deepsea,do your sums and see if after the lose you will take will it be worth it? but if you really love the deepsea try and keep it as getting another one may never happen,the explorer is very different wear wise and size wise so make sure its not another mistake your about to walk into.

2 January 2011, 05:13 AM	#7
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	Oh no. Such a bad luck. I'm surprised to find out that your cousin didn't tell you when he was selling his Sub-C.... He probably got a good price for it since it had a DSSD clasp. As already suggested, your options are quite limited.... Good luck with it and hope it'd work out for you.

2 January 2011, 06:31 AM	#10
expy2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: England Posts: 204	Maybe the impending price rise will swallow up some of my loss (the price difference between a subc and DSSD clasp can't be too much, can it?). Can i just order a new clasp from an AD, or would the watch have to got to a service centre?

2 January 2011, 09:10 AM	#14
expy2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: England Posts: 204	Maybe i will have to sell it with the Subc clasp and take the hit. It can't be more than a couple hundred pounds, right?

2 January 2011, 10:02 AM	#17
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	If I understood correctly, the clasps on the DSSD and the SubC are interchangeable? If so I am interested in acquiring a SubC clasp as the orig DSSD clasp is a bit long for my small wrist. I'd just make sure to keep the orig DSSD clasp. Can anyone of you in the US help in ordering a SubC clasp? Pls PM me. Thanks!

2 January 2011, 10:38 AM	#19
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	I can't see your DSSD being worth much more than £25 now so I'll be more than fair & offer you £50. Good luck sorting it mate..... __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

2 January 2011, 10:53 AM	#21
457689 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hollywood Posts: 198	after reading this thread, i got a headache. kinda like listening to my wife talk about who's sleeping with whom amongst her friends. just lose track and tune out after awhile...

2 January 2011, 02:51 PM	#24
toolr 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northwest Posts: 1,376	One of the desirable features of the DeepSea is the Glidelock clasp. It also has to be the most complicated and expensive SS clasp Rolex makes. I would think you'll take a big hit trying to sell your essentially new DeepSea without it.

3 January 2011, 11:46 AM	#26
KirkWilfred "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: West Hartford, CT Watch: 116710LN Posts: 1,224	Not good..... __________________ “Time is an illusion.” – Albert Einstein

3 January 2011, 02:02 PM	#27
Kevin Barrett "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 45	Just who mixes and matches bracelet links,clasps,and suchwhat on these watches,and then just buys and sells without knowing whats going on? Sounds crazy to me,these watches are many thousands of dollars,not costume jewellery....I must be old fashioned,Smells fishy.

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