bcs championship game

[t e x]

real quick, lol...auburn 32 or 28

[t e x]

the game was pretty good...entertaining, the ducks had a fine season and came up close. i hadn't seen the line prior to the game and calling auburn by four.... not too shabby.

[kareemthedream33]

I was really pulling for the Ducks so that someone besides the SEC would win, but Auburn was much better. Oregon couldn't handle their D-Line and that makes it hard to win. IMO they were lucky the game was that close.

[mtrunner]

Decent game though college football will never be legit until they implement a playoff system. Unfortunately the powers that be feel the Bowl games are a better option.

[t e x]

Originally Posted by kareemthedream33

I was really pulling for the Ducks so that someone besides the SEC would win, but Auburn was much better. Oregon couldn't handle their D-Line and that makes it hard to win. IMO they were lucky the game was that close.

Ducks were very lucky they weren't blown out. Funny how Brent Musburger called that 81 yd pass play a td inadvertently and OR came away empty handed.

Originally Posted by mtrunner

Decent game though college football will never be legit until they implement a playoff system. Unfortunately the powers that be feel the Bowl games are a better option.

Someone needs to figure out a playoff system utilizing the bowl games.

[mtrunner]

Originally Posted by t e x

Ducks were very lucky they weren't blown out. Funny how Brent Musburger called that 81 yd pass play a td inadvertently and OR came away empty handed.



Someone needs to figure out a playoff system utilizing the bowl games.

I agree completely. So many of the bowl games are worthless anyways. There could be a 16 team playoff utilizing the major bowls still. They could then have the other 20 something worthless bowl games for the rest of the teams that don't make the playoffs. There have been several studies showing college football would actually make more money WITH a playoff system.

[t e x]

The bowl pairings were just awful.

[mtrunner]

Originally Posted by t e x

The bowl pairings were just awful.

The biggest problem is the fact certain conferences have automatic tie ins to the BCS. I mean there is absolutely no way Conn deserved to be in a BCS bowl game. Or even Virginia Tech for that matter when teams like Michigan State and Boise were left out.

I know there is a huge debate about Boise but their schedule was actually considered to be harder than most of the Big Ten teams this year including Ohio State. So you have a team like Boise who had one loss to a top 20 team left out but a team they beat (Virginia Tech) gets in who also lost to a Football Sub Conference (Division I-AA) team. If nothing changes and no playoffs are implemented at least take away the automatic Tie ins because they are complete garbage. The ACC and Big East are horrible conferences but get to go automatically.

[sea-dweller]

Great game, very entertaining!

[BigMac53]

Originally Posted by kareemthedream33

I was really pulling for the Ducks so that someone besides the SEC would win, but Auburn was much better. Oregon couldn't handle their D-Line and that makes it hard to win. IMO they were lucky the game was that close.

I'm a Huge Alabama fan, but I share those same sentiments regarding seeing a team outside the SEC take it. I was really pulling for Oregon!

I have to admit though, as good a game as it was defensively speaking, I was hoping for a lot more offense with those two teams.

[kareemthedream33]

Originally Posted by mtrunner

The biggest problem is the fact certain conferences have automatic tie ins to the BCS. I mean there is absolutely no way Conn deserved to be in a BCS bowl game. Or even Virginia Tech for that matter when teams like Michigan State and Boise were left out.

I know there is a huge debate about Boise but their schedule was actually considered to be harder than most of the Big Ten teams this year including Ohio State. So you have a team like Boise who had one loss to a top 20 team left out but a team they beat (Virginia Tech) gets in who also lost to a Football Sub Conference (Division I-AA) team. If nothing changes and no playoffs are implemented at least take away the automatic Tie ins because they are complete garbage. The ACC and Big East are horrible conferences but get to go automatically.

The system of rating schedules is heavily flawed, you will never ever convince me that Boise States schedule is even close to as hard as any Big Ten team. Boise plays 2 or 3 very good teams a year and then the rest are awful. OSU plays 2 or 3 very good teams a year and then the rest is made up of mediocre teams. The difference is that those mediocre teams are good enough to upset you (purdue, northwestern, Illinois) if you don't prepare properly. This is not the case with teams in the WAC.

[mtrunner]

Originally Posted by kareemthedream33

The system of rating schedules is heavily flawed, you will never ever convince me that Boise States schedule is even close to as hard as any Big Ten team. Boise plays 2 or 3 very good teams a year and then the rest are awful. OSU plays 2 or 3 very good teams a year and then the rest is made up of mediocre teams. The difference is that those mediocre teams are good enough to upset you (purdue, northwestern, Illinois) if you don't prepare properly. This is not the case with teams in the WAC.

Maybe you are right but who knows without a playoff system. It is completely arbitrary to say their schedule is harder because it is full of upset potential. All conference schedules have this potential. Lets be real Purdue and Minnesota are awful and really aren't going to put up much fight. Boise has conference games that could be upset potential as well. Boise also has some powder puff games just like Ohio State.

But it isn't like Boise didn't play anyone this year. They played and beat teams like Oregon State,Virginia Tech and Hawaii. Virginia Tech and Oregon State both being ranked. Boise did loss to a ranked conference team Nevada.

Ohio State played three ranked teams as well and lost one (Wisconsin). The rest of their schedule was garbage with the likes of Eastern Michigan (2-10). Marshall (5-7), Purdue (4-8), Indiana (5-7), and Minnesota (3-9). It is just as much of a powder puff schedule that Boise State is accused of having.

These arguments will only be put to rest with a playoff system.

[kareemthedream33]

Originally Posted by mtrunner

Maybe you are right but who knows without a playoff system. It is completely arbitrary to say their schedule is harder because it is full of upset potential. All conference schedules have this potential. Lets be real Purdue and Minnesota are awful and really aren't going to put up much fight. Boise has conference games that could be upset potential as well. Boise also has some powder puff games just like Ohio State.

But it isn't like Boise didn't play anyone this year. They played and beat teams like Oregon State,Virginia Tech and Hawaii. Virginia Tech and Oregon State both being ranked. Boise did loss to a ranked conference team Nevada.

Ohio State played three ranked teams as well and lost one (Wisconsin). The rest of their schedule was garbage with the likes of Eastern Michigan (2-10). Marshall (5-7), Purdue (4-8), Indiana (5-7), and Minnesota (3-9). It is just as much of a powder puff schedule that Boise State is accused of having.

These arguments will only be put to rest with a playoff system.

You say that purdue and Minnesota are awful but those records include a full big ten schedule. Compare Purdue to the bottom teams in the WAC and the kinds of recruits and talent each school gets. It's really not even close. Purdue has the talent level to be a top WAC team besides Boise, but in the B10 they stink.

[beerformeplz]

SEC. I'm a big Bama fan and it HURT to root for Auburn, but I have to root for my conference.

[t e x]

I am so ready for the playoff system.... the sec and the big 12 played mostly northern teams... except a&m and lsu... i mean c'mon already.

agreed about uconn... no disrespect but once again c'mon. how does a team who has already beat another team soundly and with a lesser record end up in a bowl matched against one another...? i mean if it had playoff implications it may be different.

[mtrunner]

Originally Posted by kareemthedream33

You say that purdue and Minnesota are awful but those records include a full big ten schedule. Compare Purdue to the bottom teams in the WAC and the kinds of recruits and talent each school gets. It's really not even close. Purdue has the talent level to be a top WAC team besides Boise, but in the B10 they stink.

Agree to disagree on this one.

[kareemthedream33]

Originally Posted by mtrunner

Agree to disagree on this one.

That's fine, not trying to be confrontational or anything, I really enjoy these college football discussions. I am in favor of a playoff. But do you think that Utah State or New Mexico or San Jose State is as good as Purdue or Illinois talent-wise? That's my only point, that besides a few games, Boises schedule is filled with teams that major schools would consider cupcakes. The upset potential carried by a bottom-dwelling Big 10/Big 12/SEC team compared to a bottom-dwelling WAC team is completely different.