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Jason71 · 5 March 2011, 06:55 AM

Many of you might have seen my 16800 that just came back from service from Bob Ridley. Honestly, I couldn't wait to get this thing back on my wrist. I just love it.

This is the thing........the longer that I am around Rolex watches, the more that I am migrating towards the vintage. My last 2 additions were this one and a 5513. I am getting to the place that I don't look at anything but vintage on the FS forum. I love the hour plots that have turned a creamy brown color, the plexi crystals, and the slower beat second-hand. Am I going crazy, or is this just the normal progression??

drtooth73 · 5 March 2011, 07:01 AM

The one in the photo is a beautiful thing.
I, too, like some vintage pieces.

Frogman4me · 5 March 2011, 07:02 AM

That is some beautiful patina!

Clay · 5 March 2011, 07:34 AM

I hear you Jason......There is something about a vintage piece that the modern pieces just don't have.....

I love my 16600, but my 1665.......

Now THAT'S a watch......

That's a great looking 16800 by the way....Wear it in the every best of health.....

I'm waiting for my 1665 to come back from Bob's even as we speak....

sailmed · 5 March 2011, 07:57 AM

I think what you are describing is the extra dimension that the passage of time (no pun intended) adds to an already wonderful creation. As they age, they take on a character that is similar to a fine vintage wine or piece of antique furniture. Some call it wabi-sabi, but whatever term you use, it lends a sense of warmth and imparts a feeling of life to an otherwise inanimate object. It's the perfection in the imperfection that attracts me most.

Clay · 5 March 2011, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sailmed

I think what you are describing is the extra dimension that the passage of time (no pun intended) adds to an already wonderful creation. As they age, they take on a character that is similar to a fine vintage wine or piece of antique furniture. Some call it wabi-sabi, but whatever term you use, it lends a sense of warmth and imparts a feeling of life to an otherwise inanimate object. It's the perfection in the imperfection that attracts me most.

Well said......

Yazo · 5 March 2011, 08:19 AM

Man I walked down the exact path you did.... there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and it's 100% normal..... your tastes have evolved!!!

HL65 · 5 March 2011, 08:50 AM

I am with you 100%!! Clay--everytime I see that baby I want to go out and get one!!

Jason71 · 5 March 2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

I am with you 100%!! Clay--everytime I see that baby I want to go out and get one!!

Keep your cyber-paws off of it. That thing is MINE when Clay caves and decides to get rid of it.

HL65 · 5 March 2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason71

Keep your cyber-paws off of it. That thing is MINE when Clay caves and decides to get rid of it.

We can share it!! Nice Sub too Jason!

mike · 5 March 2011, 10:01 AM

I think what is often overlooked when we talk about the history of Rolex is that THESE were the pieces that made that history.

HL65 · 5 March 2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

I think what is often overlooked when we talk about the history of Rolex is that THESE were the pieces that made that history.

No doubt about that Mike!!!!

Alcan · 5 March 2011, 11:05 AM

Jason, that Sub without the cyclops looks outstanding!!

feilong108 · 5 March 2011, 11:14 AM

after i gotten mine....the rest of my watches are not worn since then

HL65 · 5 March 2011, 11:29 AM

Going to bank tomorrow to swap out me PN for me Milsub: I love vintage Rolex--new ones just don't grab me like these do!!

18mm sun 003.jpg

Jason71 · 5 March 2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

Going to bank tomorrow to swap out me PN for me Milsub: I love vintage Rolex--new ones just don't grab me like these do!!

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I'm just posting pictures of some semi-vintage 16800 with a worn-out bezel.......and excited about the absence of the cyclops. You are posting pictures of Mil-subs and talking of PN's.

HL65 · 5 March 2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason71

I'm just posting pictures of some semi-vintage 16800 with a worn-out bezel.......and excited about the absence of the cyclops. You are posting pictures of Mil-subs and talking of PN's.

LOL!! It is all good!! What a terrible habit!!

ezinternet · 5 March 2011, 01:13 PM

sailmed expressed it very well .. the subtle signs of use and age impart a character to a watch that says "I've experienced time passing". I appreciate the age and the beauty of the piece. Sounds as if you do also.

A vintage watch says "I'm older" and it shows its history in every fade, patina, and mark on its face and case. Every vintage watch is unique, by virtue of having lived a life, so far. A new watch looks, well ... new, modern, contemporary, sleek, shiny and with history not yet written on its face.

There is another level of appreciation - the technical one. I enjoy and actually prefer my old Porsche 911 - even without ABS, airbags, traction control, stability management and more horsepower. Still, a new 911, definitely offers a better driving experience at the limits on the track (measured in lap times) or if one wants working heat or A/C.

Luckily, watches aren't as complicated as cars, and vintage performs just fine. There's another appreciation of just how well the vintage movements, when well maintained, keep time just as well as the newer ones.

So there's everything right about preferring vintage.

Clay · 5 March 2011, 10:47 PM

Hey Ken....What did I tell you about posting pictures of the Mil Sub.....

HL65 · 5 March 2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay

Hey Ken....What did I tell you about posting pictures of the Mil Sub.....

It is a payback for your 1665-which has the nicest dial I think I have seen on one to date!!!

Frogman4me · 5 March 2011, 11:39 PM

Clay and Ken both you guys are driving me crazy! I am currently without a vintage Rolex and I have to look at your photos and just sit here and eat it. When I do get mine I'm gonna post tons of pics to make up for lost time!

Clay · 5 March 2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogman4me

Clay and Ken both you guys are driving me crazy! I am currently without a vintage Rolex and I have to look at your photos and just sit here and eat it. When I do get mine I'm gonna post tons of pics to make up for lost time!

David, I'm looking forward to it......

HL65 · 5 March 2011, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogman4me

Clay and Ken both you guys are driving me crazy! I am currently without a vintage Rolex and I have to look at your photos and just sit here and eat it. When I do get mine I'm gonna post tons of pics to make up for lost time!

As am I !!!

Frogman4me · 5 March 2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

As am I !!!

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Originally Posted by Clay

David, I'm looking forward to it......

Thanks guys, I might have a GTG party as well. You guys are invited.

Michael M. · 6 March 2011, 12:48 AM

Looks spectacular!!

lhanddds · 6 March 2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

We can share it!! Nice Sub too Jason!

guys, Clay is never going to let this go

Nothing can beat the warmth of a vintage piece. It looks alive when compared to a cold new product.

garis · 6 March 2011, 01:14 AM

I too, am a convert. Went down the rocky road with modern then ended up with the 3 you see in my signature....and loving very minute of it

I'll never look at a modern piece again ever. I'm now waiting anxiously for the arrival of my latest acquisition, a 9401 blue snowflake..sigh with dreamy eyes

HL65 · 6 March 2011, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lhanddds

guys, Clay is never going to let this go

Nothing can beat the warmth of a vintage piece. It looks alive when compared to a cold new product.

Of course he won't! Why would he? Just another way to compliment a great guy with a great watch!! Cheers!!!

PS--I have my hands full or should I say wrists!!

GeorgeK · 6 March 2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by feilong108

after i gotten mine....the rest of my watches are not worn since then

Yours is a brother to mine, 7.4 million as well:

Clay · 6 March 2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

Of course he won't! Why would he? Just another way to compliment a great guy with a great watch!! Cheers!!!

PS--I have my hands full or should I say wrists!!

Ken,
You forgot good looking as well......

5 March 2011, 06:55 AM	#1
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Some Thoughts about Vintage......... Many of you might have seen my 16800 that just came back from service from Bob Ridley. Honestly, I couldn't wait to get this thing back on my wrist. I just love it. This is the thing........the longer that I am around Rolex watches, the more that I am migrating towards the vintage. My last 2 additions were this one and a 5513. I am getting to the place that I don't look at anything but vintage on the FS forum. I love the hour plots that have turned a creamy brown color, the plexi crystals, and the slower beat second-hand. Am I going crazy, or is this just the normal progression?? __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

5 March 2011, 07:57 AM	#5
sailmed "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Barry Location: Newtown Square Watch: Red Sub, 5513, FF Posts: 299	I think what you are describing is the extra dimension that the passage of time (no pun intended) adds to an already wonderful creation. As they age, they take on a character that is similar to a fine vintage wine or piece of antique furniture. Some call it wabi-sabi, but whatever term you use, it lends a sense of warmth and imparts a feeling of life to an otherwise inanimate object. It's the perfection in the imperfection that attracts me most. __________________ "Primum non nocere."

5 March 2011, 08:50 AM	#8
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,986	I am with you 100%!! Clay--everytime I see that baby I want to go out and get one!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

5 March 2011, 11:05 AM	#13
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Jason, that Sub without the cyclops looks outstanding!! __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

5 March 2011, 11:14 AM	#14
feilong108 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Eugene Location: Singapore Watch: Year 1981 5513 Posts: 125	after i gotten mine....the rest of my watches are not worn since then __________________ Mini Grail attained: Rolex 5513 Matte Mark2 Dial Card-carrying member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons

5 March 2011, 07:01 AM	#2
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	The one in the photo is a beautiful thing. I, too, like some vintage pieces.

5 March 2011, 07:02 AM	#3
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	That is some beautiful patina!

5 March 2011, 07:34 AM	#4
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	I hear you Jason......There is something about a vintage piece that the modern pieces just don't have..... I love my 16600, but my 1665....... Now THAT'S a watch...... That's a great looking 16800 by the way....Wear it in the every best of health..... I'm waiting for my 1665 to come back from Bob's even as we speak....

5 March 2011, 08:19 AM	#7
Yazo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,812	Man I walked down the exact path you did.... there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and it's 100% normal..... your tastes have evolved!!!

5 March 2011, 10:01 AM	#11
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I think what is often overlooked when we talk about the history of Rolex is that THESE were the pieces that made that history.

5 March 2011, 11:29 AM	#15
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,986	Going to bank tomorrow to swap out me PN for me Milsub: I love vintage Rolex--new ones just don't grab me like these do!! 18mm sun 003.jpg __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

5 March 2011, 01:13 PM	#18
ezinternet 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Ez Location: Chicago Posts: 13	sailmed expressed it very well .. the subtle signs of use and age impart a character to a watch that says "I've experienced time passing". I appreciate the age and the beauty of the piece. Sounds as if you do also. A vintage watch says "I'm older" and it shows its history in every fade, patina, and mark on its face and case. Every vintage watch is unique, by virtue of having lived a life, so far. A new watch looks, well ... new, modern, contemporary, sleek, shiny and with history not yet written on its face. There is another level of appreciation - the technical one. I enjoy and actually prefer my old Porsche 911 - even without ABS, airbags, traction control, stability management and more horsepower. Still, a new 911, definitely offers a better driving experience at the limits on the track (measured in lap times) or if one wants working heat or A/C. Luckily, watches aren't as complicated as cars, and vintage performs just fine. There's another appreciation of just how well the vintage movements, when well maintained, keep time just as well as the newer ones. So there's everything right about preferring vintage.

5 March 2011, 10:47 PM	#19
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	Hey Ken....What did I tell you about posting pictures of the Mil Sub.....

5 March 2011, 11:39 PM	#21
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Clay and Ken both you guys are driving me crazy! I am currently without a vintage Rolex and I have to look at your photos and just sit here and eat it. When I do get mine I'm gonna post tons of pics to make up for lost time!

6 March 2011, 12:48 AM	#25
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Looks spectacular!!

6 March 2011, 01:14 AM	#27
garis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wonka Land Posts: 124	I too, am a convert. Went down the rocky road with modern then ended up with the 3 you see in my signature....and loving very minute of it I'll never look at a modern piece again ever. I'm now waiting anxiously for the arrival of my latest acquisition, a 9401 blue snowflake..sigh with dreamy eyes

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