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cuden · 9 May 2007, 01:00 AM

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I want to buy a new rolex watch and was wondering if this is real or not. Thanks for any kind of help.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9426&rd=1&rd=1

padi56 · 9 May 2007, 02:23 AM

Well the watch could be genuine but the diamond dial IMO is a aftermaket so is bezel and states bracelet is.So if I was you leave well alone because any watch with (aftermarket parts fitted non Rolex) Rolex US would refuse to service it

President · 9 May 2007, 02:25 AM

Welcome!

cuden · 9 May 2007, 02:29 AM

Thanks for the info.

Welshwatchman · 9 May 2007, 02:31 AM

The seller seems genuine enough. I would say go for it, proceed with caution and keep money aside in your budget for a non hideous dial.

cuden · 9 May 2007, 02:31 AM

So is the aftermarket parts will last long or not? What are some pros and cons about after market? padi56 has listed 1 cons already. Any other suggestion? Thanks!!!

bwalkerVintage · 9 May 2007, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuden

So is the aftermarket parts will last long or not? What are some pros and cons about after market? padi56 has listed 1 cons already. Any other suggestion? Thanks!!!

Welcome!

You said you wanted to buy a Rolex. If you buy a watch that is 1/2 Rolex, then you're not getting a Rolex.

padi56 · 9 May 2007, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuden

So is the aftermarket parts will last long or not? What are some pros and cons about after market? padi56 has listed 1 cons already. Any other suggestion? Thanks!!!

Well expect the dial would last as long,but doubt if the diamonds would be the same grade and quality that Rolex uses.And again the bracelet is non genuine Rolex,so it all boils down to a frankenwatch.

cuden · 9 May 2007, 02:42 AM

Thanks to all of you guys for the info!

airking · 9 May 2007, 02:52 AM

The fact that the dial says only 'Swiss' in small letters at the bottom as opposed to 'Swiss Made' would suggest to me that it is not genuine.

cuden · 9 May 2007, 02:54 AM

Wow, this is getting intresting.

cuden · 9 May 2007, 03:02 AM

So this watch is not genuine after all?

padi56 · 9 May 2007, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airking

The fact that the dial says only 'Swiss' in small letters at the bottom as opposed to 'Swiss Made' would suggest to me that it is not genuine.

That dial is a aftermarket one,but Rolex used just the word Swiss on many vintage watches 60s 70s and on some late 90s. If I remember swiss made came in around 1998,like I said in my first post.Watch could well be genuine but it most certainly did not start its life in that present now form.

nje39 · 9 May 2007, 03:06 AM

man thats a fugggly watch!

cuden · 9 May 2007, 03:07 AM

lol, because of the red dial?

cuden · 9 May 2007, 03:08 AM

I saw one in person and i tauhgt it would be pretty.

cuden · 9 May 2007, 03:09 AM

padi56 thanks alot. Your adive is great! Thanks again!

cbrenthus · 9 May 2007, 03:37 AM

For the money you could get a non-frankenwatch TT datejust. I'm aslo a little skeptical about the lack of information such as the model year the guy is providing.

nje39 · 9 May 2007, 03:37 AM

IMO, just to much going on.

cbrenthus · 9 May 2007, 03:43 AM

I'm not much into the bling an ddiamonds, but if it were me, I would rather buy this: http://www.demesy.com/Merchant2/merc...y_Code=BR12-DM

And then have a custom diamond dial and bezel installed. That way, I'd know for sure its real and also still have all the original parts in case I wanted to go back or had to have it serviced.

ashu2289 · 9 May 2007, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Well the watch could be genuine but the diamond dial IMO is a aftermaket so is bezel and states bracelet is.So if I was you leave well alone because any watch with (aftermarket parts fitted non Rolex) Rolex US would refuse to service it

I agree with you.

Surely the watch although is Rolex but highly modified with many aftermarket parts like bezel, dial, and even bracelet so its almost sure that RSC is going to refuse it for service so just leave the deal.

JJ Irani · 9 May 2007, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuden

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I want to buy a new rolex watch and was wondering if this is real or not. Thanks for any kind of help.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9426&rd=1&rd=1

Hi Cuden,

Welcome to TRF.

For that kind of money, why would anyone want to buy that awful looking thing?

If it's your first Rolex, just walk in through the portals of any AD and get the real thing!!

Good luck - JJ

tonelar · 9 May 2007, 04:28 AM

Actually... some Rolex SCs will service a Frankenwatch but only after throwing out all the am parts (so you'd be out a good amount of $$$ above and beyond the cost of the service).

Good luck... and welcome

mikey · 9 May 2007, 04:51 AM

Hey, if you like that watch and it makes you feel good then go ahead and purchase it. I have an aftermarket italian jubilee band that is pure real gold and stainless steel. I am still working on the clasp but its new. The rest of my watch is genuine Rolex but its considered a frankenwatch by this forums standards but i love it! Do what makes you feel happy. There are alot of guys that walk into the AD and wind up miserable and flip them! I can't judge what caught your attention its your choice.

advocatia · 9 May 2007, 05:15 AM

why no pics of the movement? Run, don't walk.

JJ Irani · 9 May 2007, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by advocatia

why no pics of the movement? Run, don't walk.

Hi Andy....what's cookin'?

rolexfan21 · 9 May 2007, 05:21 AM

u wanna buy that watch??? You'd have to pay me to wear it.

JJ Irani · 9 May 2007, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic_the_pro

u wanna buy that watch??? You'd have to pay me to wear it.

How much?

cuden · 9 May 2007, 05:40 AM

Thanks for all the information y'all guys provide. It helped me a lot. So its a real watch but high modify right? Thanks again.

Obsession · 9 May 2007, 06:21 AM

who guarantees that you will get what you see? Better to buy from AD instead of loosing money, No one will not do more than %20 in Ebay from the retail or current value. You can find it with same price at a grey seller in real and go to AD for test.

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padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,024	Well the watch could be genuine but the diamond dial IMO is a aftermaket so is bezel and states bracelet is.So if I was you leave well alone because any watch with (aftermarket parts fitted non Rolex) Rolex US would refuse to service it __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

9 May 2007, 02:31 AM	#5
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	The seller seems genuine enough. I would say go for it, proceed with caution and keep money aside in your budget for a non hideous dial. __________________ ..33

9 May 2007, 03:37 AM	#18
cbrenthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: FL Watch: ing my second hand Posts: 869	For the money you could get a non-frankenwatch TT datejust. I'm aslo a little skeptical about the lack of information such as the model year the guy is providing. __________________ www.bknicholas.com www.myspace.com/bknicholas

9 May 2007, 03:43 AM	#20
cbrenthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: FL Watch: ing my second hand Posts: 869	I'm not much into the bling an ddiamonds, but if it were me, I would rather buy this: http://www.demesy.com/Merchant2/merc...y_Code=BR12-DM And then have a custom diamond dial and bezel installed. That way, I'd know for sure its real and also still have all the original parts in case I wanted to go back or had to have it serviced. __________________ www.bknicholas.com www.myspace.com/bknicholas

9 May 2007, 02:25 AM	#3
President Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: M.Thatcher MP Location: Le Locle Watch: Bear Grylls Posts: 2,913	Welcome!

9 May 2007, 02:29 AM	#4
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	Thanks for the info.

9 May 2007, 02:42 AM	#9
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	Thanks to all of you guys for the info!

9 May 2007, 02:52 AM	#10
airking Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Watch: Rolex Air King Posts: 26	The fact that the dial says only 'Swiss' in small letters at the bottom as opposed to 'Swiss Made' would suggest to me that it is not genuine.

9 May 2007, 02:54 AM	#11
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	Wow, this is getting intresting.

9 May 2007, 03:02 AM	#12
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	So this watch is not genuine after all?

9 May 2007, 03:06 AM	#14
nje39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: nj Posts: 69	man thats a fugggly watch!

9 May 2007, 03:07 AM	#15
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	lol, because of the red dial?

9 May 2007, 03:08 AM	#16
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	I saw one in person and i tauhgt it would be pretty.

9 May 2007, 03:09 AM	#17
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	padi56 thanks alot. Your adive is great! Thanks again!

9 May 2007, 04:28 AM	#23
tonelar "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Tony Location: san francisco Watch: Seadweller Posts: 1,368	Actually... some Rolex SCs will service a Frankenwatch but only after throwing out all the am parts (so you'd be out a good amount of $$$ above and beyond the cost of the service). Good luck... and welcome __________________ It's a rarity that something popular is actually right... Wear 'em with PRIDE, y'all.

9 May 2007, 04:51 AM	#24
mikey "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Watch: Oysterdate 6694 Posts: 2,713	Hey, if you like that watch and it makes you feel good then go ahead and purchase it. I have an aftermarket italian jubilee band that is pure real gold and stainless steel. I am still working on the clasp but its new. The rest of my watch is genuine Rolex but its considered a frankenwatch by this forums standards but i love it! Do what makes you feel happy. There are alot of guys that walk into the AD and wind up miserable and flip them! I can't judge what caught your attention its your choice.

9 May 2007, 05:15 AM	#25
advocatia Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Andy Location: Florida USA Watch: PAM 422 GMTIIC Posts: 868	why no pics of the movement? Run, don't walk.

9 May 2007, 05:21 AM	#27
rolexfan21 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto Watch: 16610 Posts: 379	u wanna buy that watch??? You'd have to pay me to wear it.

9 May 2007, 05:40 AM	#29
cuden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: adsasda Posts: 10	Thanks for all the information y'all guys provide. It helped me a lot. So its a real watch but high modify right? Thanks again.

9 May 2007, 06:21 AM	#30
Obsession Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Aykun Location: Istanbul/Turkey Watch: Tissot Seastar Posts: 804	who guarantees that you will get what you see? Better to buy from AD instead of loosing money, No one will not do more than %20 in Ebay from the retail or current value. You can find it with same price at a grey seller in real and go to AD for test.

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