What to do - Thinking about a PAM

[axjimenez]

I am thinking about picking up a PAM. Which one would you go with, a 111, 112 or 113? I like the white dial but the black seems more classic. Thoughts?

[Cru Jones]

As a new convert, I can say that you won't regret it....go for it!

Between the three you mentioned, I'd go 111, because I like to see something moving on the dial....the 113 is really nice, but, with a white dial Explorer II, I didn't give it much thought.

I seriously considered the 111, as I wanted a Luminor and not a 1950 case, but ended up going with a 164 for the brushed case + polished bezel, painted dial, date and quick change strap system. Plus, as a bonus, I prefer the 164's dark brown croc to the 111's tan. I'm also happy having a solid back....

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by axjimenez

I am thinking about picking up a PAM. Which one would you go with, a 111, 112 or 113? I like the white dial but the black seems more classic. Thoughts?

I owned a 111 about five years ago and this morning I just took delivery of a new 000. I always thought that I "needed" the seconds hand on the dial, but there is really something to be said for the simplicity and symmetry of the 000 and the 112 (although I admit to being slightly biased at this moment in time!)

Another great reason to try a 112 or 000 first is that you will be able to get a feel for the brand with the lowest possible initial investment. All the straps that you collect for the Base models will then fit all the other Luminor cases if you decide to upgrade down the road.

You can't go wrong with any of those choices. Good luck in your decision and keep us posted on your progress.

[TswaneNguni]

111 My wife has a 113 ..... I wear it now and then.

[TopNotchChach]

^totally agree with ya! Initially I wanted the 112 but my search is on for a 111.
But now the simplness of the 112 is a great look too. I might switch my mind again!

Both are classic pieces. You can't go wrong.
Good luck!

[mfer]

What's your budget and wrist size?

Without know more, consider the versitile 210 or 183.

Here is my 210 (i changed the hands to gold which you could do relatively cheaply if you like, I have a pic with the OEM black hands too).







With my older style painted 111.

[chazha]

372 is the ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TopNotchChach]

^not sure if he wants his first PAM to be around 10k! lol

nice upgrades though.

[stockae92]

if you are used to having a continous running second hand, then i would stick to a PAM has one. just a little easier for the transition.

44mm luminor vs 1950 (312 and such) case wears differently for different people. for me, luminor works much better.

111 is an obvious choice cause its very "panerai": sandwich dial, hand wind movement, 44mm luminor case

if you want something more unquie, i would go with 113 with the white dial.

the inhouse movement are nice, but (IMO) they are not proven over a long period of time (yet), MSRP are a bit more expensive, and you would want to have PSC service it (more expensive service)

for me, i am a fan of the 44mm luminor case and i own a 111. it seems to work for me

[axjimenez]

Originally Posted by TopNotchChach

^not sure if he wants his first PAM to be around 10k! lol

nice upgrades though.

Thanks - yeah, a little outside my budget right now! Thanks though.

[esm]

Originally Posted by axjimenez

I am thinking about picking up a PAM. Which one would you go with, a 111, 112 or 113? I like the white dial but the black seems more classic. Thoughts?

Good one.
Have you tried any of them yet?

Do you prefer the painted or sandwich dial?

Maybe a good idea to check out Radiomir cased Panerai too

[SeanLandsnaes]

Cant go wrong with the 111, one of my personal favorites. 112 is also nice but I prefer the sub seconds. Good luck!

[fstnlgl]

I like the pam 113 because of the white clean dial and the fact that it goes with a dark or light strap. The case back is open to view the decorated mov't. The unitas mech mov't is very accurate and free of problems. One issue would be that the lume is not as bright as the 111. Go to an ad and try them on. See which one sings to ya!!

[nauticajoe]

All great choices Alex.

The best is to try them on to see what smiles & fits better for you.

Good luck!

[B. Doggy]

111 for me

[dddrees]

Personally out of the 3 I would choose the 112. But then again I choose the 000 for myself.

[jhcam8]

Originally Posted by mfer

What's your budget and wrist size?

Without know more, consider the versitile 210 or 183.

With my older style painted 111.

Thanks for showing the contrast, Mik -

I have pretty small wrists - 6 3/4" or so. A 40mm fits fine, but I want to move up where there's more choices. The 44mm Luminor is about 53mm lug-to-lug and seems a little long on me. (Maybe it's not and I'm just not used to it.)

The 45mm Radiomir isn't as long and doesn't seem to wear any bigger than the Luminor.

Anyone have any tips?

thanks, Jim

[superb]

Pam 0 is the way to go.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by jhcam8

Thanks for showing the contrast, Mik -

I have pretty small wrists - 6 3/4" or so. A 40mm fits fine, but I want to move up where there's more choices. The 44mm Luminor is about 53mm lug-to-lug and seems a little long on me. (Maybe it's not and I'm just not used to it.)

The 45mm Radiomir isn't as long and doesn't seem to wear any bigger than the Luminor.

Anyone have any tips?

thanks, Jim

it's not just diameter, but shape of wrist that counts. i'm about the same size wrist as you, and the top of my wrist is flat.

the 1950 case sat awkwardly on my wrist, but the luminor case is great. i was nervous about the size at first, but, after a short amount of time, i've gotten completely used to it and like it.

good luck.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by jhcam8

Thanks for showing the contrast, Mik -

I have pretty small wrists - 6 3/4" or so. A 40mm fits fine, but I want to move up where there's more choices. The 44mm Luminor is about 53mm lug-to-lug and seems a little long on me. (Maybe it's not and I'm just not used to it.)

The 45mm Radiomir isn't as long and doesn't seem to wear any bigger than the Luminor.

Anyone have any tips?

thanks, Jim

99.9% of people (including me) will tell you the 45mm Radiomir wears smaller than the 44mm Luminor. The wire lugs, the thinner case add to the "small wear" of the RAdiomir. I can wear a 47mm Radiomir case, but am uncomfortable with a 47mm Luminor and especially the 47mm Sub 1950 Case (the 305 is one). Those subs wear like a brick on my wrist. Oh yeah, I'm a 6.5" wrist, relatively flat. You really have to try it on and see for yourself. If you wrist is rounded as opposed to flat, it'll look larger. I'd recommend going to a Panerai AD and just try on different cases to see which case you like. Don't even worry about the dial.

Cases for example.
42mm Rad
45mm Rad
47mm Rad
40mm Lum
44mm Lum
44mm 1950 Lum
44mm Sub
44mm 1950 Sub
47mm Sub
+more possible

[axjimenez]

Thanks everybody. I tried one on last night and thankfully found a pre-loved piece last night as well. I should be receiving a nice 111 tomorrow in the morning!

[Felix.H]

Get a pam 55, brushed Ti luminor with tobacco dial,..

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by axjimenez

Thanks everybody. I tried one on last night and thankfully found a pre-loved piece last night as well. I should be receiving a nice 111 tomorrow in the morning!

CONGRATS! can't wait for the pix.

i like your style......wake up, think about getting a PAM, post a quick thread, try one on, purchase that night.

[esm]

congrats mate - well done on the purchase

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

i like your style......wake up, think about getting a PAM, post a quick thread, try one on, purchase that night.

so true - i think with Panerai you will have to act quickly. if you see one you like, grab it with your both hands asap

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by axjimenez

Thanks everybody. I tried one on last night and thankfully found a pre-loved piece last night as well. I should be receiving a nice 111 tomorrow in the morning!

Excellent can't wait tio see the wrist PICs. Congrats.

[bcacncnc]

I prefer the 111 of the three mentioned. I agree with come commenter - on whether or not the seconds hands is important to you or not. For me, when I first got my 000, I had regrets and missed the seconds hand immensely. Can honestly say now, it doesn't bother me at all. I have a Pam 000 - which you can also consider as a very good choice IMHO.

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by axjimenez

Thanks everybody. I tried one on last night and thankfully found a pre-loved piece last night as well. I should be receiving a nice 111 tomorrow in the morning!

Congratulations!!! That is awesome...I can't wait to see the pics.

[axjimenez]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

CONGRATS! can't wait for the pix.

i like your style......wake up, think about getting a PAM, post a quick thread, try one on, purchase that night.

I tend to do things that way. Looking forward to it. Had my co-worker bring in his 112 today so I could wear it around the office and get used to the weight. I will post pics tomorrow! Thanks for all the help everybody!

[snog]

Originally Posted by axjimenez

I tend to do things that way. Looking forward to it. Had my co-worker bring in his 112 today so I could wear it around the office and get used to the weight. I will post pics tomorrow! Thanks for all the help everybody!

that co-worker of your is very trusting,I don't know if I could have done the same

[mocheen]

Congratulations on the 111!