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Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 07:33 AM

I know that I differ from many of the purists on this forum, but often I like a vintage watch that is still functional, but retains that "vintage look". I like the modern Rolex watches with the glossy dials and the gold surrounds. I especially like the functional lume. However, I prefer the matte dials and the non-gold surround markers. I do wish that the old tritium would still glow.

I made an impulse buy of this watch off Ebay. I really didn't research it much, and bought it spur of the moment. Upon inspection after owning it for a while, I realized it had replacement luminova hands, and at some point the dial had been relumed.

The relume job was pretty terrible really, and if you notice.......there is a small pin-hole in the lume at the base of the hour hand. It wasn't terribly noticeable, but it bugged me a bit.

IMHO, I could do one of 3 things:

-- Sell the watch - not really a good option since I did really like the watch, and it was a great vintage for wearing daily

-- Send it off to RSC for a new dial, hands, and service with a service insert. - Not really a good option. It had been fully serviced less than a year ago, and was running superbly at less than 1 sec/day deviation

-- Send it off to a Lume specialist and see if he could relume it for me. - Decent option. Fairly inexpensive. No additional detriment to value since it was already a relume.

Guess what I did??? I sent it off to Kent Parks for a Relume. He said that he could clean the dial, relume the dial and hands with a vintage shade patina all for ~$150.

Do you think that I made a good decision???

Adam K. · 22 June 2011, 07:39 AM

I think so. Looking forward to seeing the final result!

Dr. Robert · 22 June 2011, 07:40 AM

Yes, si, ja, oui!!!!!!!

Dan Pierce · 22 June 2011, 07:44 AM

Your decision is sound and makes sense to me.
dP

Nicko · 22 June 2011, 07:46 AM

Sounds good but it appears that you have already made up your mind and sent it off. Why the need for a poll?

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko

Sounds good but it appears that you have already made up your mind and sent it off. Why the need for a poll?

Ooops. Sorry Nicko. TBH, I really didn't think out this thread too well

Nicko · 22 June 2011, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason71

Ooops. Sorry Nicko. TBH, I really didn't think out this thread too well

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 08:02 AM

Also, I am a bit partial to this one because it is a birth-year watch. With a relume I can dive with it and not worry too much about the dial and hands.

Anyone want to see some teaser pictures???

rolexpawn · 22 June 2011, 09:09 AM

It is sad to see the dial has been worked over, you really cannot do any more harm in getting it re-lumed. Vintage dials are hard to find untouched, and when you do find the perfect dial it is costly.

Michael M. · 22 June 2011, 09:18 AM

I think you made the best decision! Post pica when ot comes back!

Saxon007 · 22 June 2011, 09:30 AM

I think you made the right decision. It won't hurt to relume since it has already been done once and Kent Parks has done some nice watches. I wish he still made custom dials.

Post some photos when it comes back.

matt4hand · 22 June 2011, 10:00 AM

correct decision in my book !

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 11:14 AM

Kent is sending it back this week. Here are his quick and dirties. I think it REALLY turned out well. What do you think??

glocati · 22 June 2011, 11:23 AM

Congrats ! That looks great and is FUNCTIONAL ! Very nice.

Michael M. · 22 June 2011, 11:42 AM

Very nice end result! Looks original! Love the nice aged re-lume job! Congrats!

Michael M. · 22 June 2011, 11:43 AM

BTW: Matches the pearl on the insert, is the insert original?

mike · 22 June 2011, 12:01 PM

That really looks sweet.

harry in montreal · 22 June 2011, 12:11 PM

.......so. right about now you need to post the info of this mr. ken parks.

it that watch watch was on Diners Drive-ins and DIves, it would be the capital of flavor-town.

harry in mtl

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael M.

BTW: Matches the pearl on the insert, is the insert original?

The insert is original, but the "pearl" is not. It is luminova. He has a system by which he applies luminova into the pearl dot area. I am a bit apprehensive about this actually, but it wasn't expensive, so I thought....."what the heck" I'll give it a try

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

.......so. right about now you need to post the info of this mr. ken parks.

it that watch watch was on Diners Drive-ins and DIves, it would be the capital of flavor-town.

harry in mtl

He is not as easy to reach as Bob Ridley, but he has been fairly responsive to emails. I do not have any contact info for him other than an email. He has an EXTREMELY good reputation on WUS for his work. He primarily does relumes.

http://www.everestwatchworks.com/

Eric88 · 22 June 2011, 12:56 PM

Wow, that's impressive!

I've only seen one other vintage Sub with lume that is anywhere close to that.

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric88

Wow, that's impressive!

I've only seen one other vintage Sub with lume that is anywhere close to that.

Hmmmmmm...........I wonder which watch that might be

PhilM · 22 June 2011, 03:25 PM

Good result

Ross Povey · 22 June 2011, 03:37 PM

you made the right choice imo! :)

jedly1 · 22 June 2011, 04:00 PM

nice job ..and seeing ti was relumed already certainly nothing heretical there :)

toph · 22 June 2011, 04:36 PM

i certainly do, looking forward to seeing it.

EDIT i love the way 4 people said sell it haha

ob1 · 22 June 2011, 05:28 PM

Blimey, that is a good job

bayerische · 22 June 2011, 05:56 PM

That came out really NICE!

What did he re-lume it with? Tritium?

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

That came out really NICE!

What did he re-lume it with? Tritium?

I don't think that anyone is allowed to use tritium anymore unless it is in those glass tubes like on the Ball watches. He used Superluminova colored to look like tritium that had developed the patina over time.

Jason71 · 22 June 2011, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedly1

nice job ..and seeing ti was relumed already certainly nothing heretical there :)

Yes, sorry........I really didn't think this thread/poll through very well when setting it up. I shouldn't have set-up a poll asking what I should do when I had already done it. I was just excited to be getting the watch back.

View Poll Results: What should I do??
Send it off to RSC for new dial/hands/insert to the tune of ~$2,000	0	0%
Send it off to have it Relumed at a cost of ~$150	26	63.41%
Sell it outright the way it is.	15	36.59%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

22 June 2011, 07:33 AM	#1
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Time to get the Purists "Riled-up" LOL. 5513 On its way back from Relume I know that I differ from many of the purists on this forum, but often I like a vintage watch that is still functional, but retains that "vintage look". I like the modern Rolex watches with the glossy dials and the gold surrounds. I especially like the functional lume. However, I prefer the matte dials and the non-gold surround markers. I do wish that the old tritium would still glow. I made an impulse buy of this watch off Ebay. I really didn't research it much, and bought it spur of the moment. Upon inspection after owning it for a while, I realized it had replacement luminova hands, and at some point the dial had been relumed. The relume job was pretty terrible really, and if you notice.......there is a small pin-hole in the lume at the base of the hour hand. It wasn't terribly noticeable, but it bugged me a bit. IMHO, I could do one of 3 things: -- Sell the watch - not really a good option since I did really like the watch, and it was a great vintage for wearing daily -- Send it off to RSC for a new dial, hands, and service with a service insert. - Not really a good option. It had been fully serviced less than a year ago, and was running superbly at less than 1 sec/day deviation -- Send it off to a Lume specialist and see if he could relume it for me. - Decent option. Fairly inexpensive. No additional detriment to value since it was already a relume. Guess what I did??? I sent it off to Kent Parks for a Relume. He said that he could clean the dial, relume the dial and hands with a vintage shade patina all for ~$150. Do you think that I made a good decision??? __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

22 June 2011, 07:40 AM	#3
Dr. Robert "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 65,787	Yes, si, ja, oui!!!!!!! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

22 June 2011, 07:44 AM	#4
Dan Pierce "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,348	Your decision is sound and makes sense to me. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

22 June 2011, 08:02 AM	#8
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Also, I am a bit partial to this one because it is a birth-year watch. With a relume I can dive with it and not worry too much about the dial and hands. Anyone want to see some teaser pictures??? __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

22 June 2011, 07:39 AM	#2
Adam K. Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: WA Watch: All the Oysters Posts: 811	I think so. Looking forward to seeing the final result!

22 June 2011, 07:46 AM	#5
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Sounds good but it appears that you have already made up your mind and sent it off. Why the need for a poll?

22 June 2011, 09:09 AM	#9
rolexpawn Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Chester Location: Bolton UK Watch: my Rolex(s) Posts: 479	It is sad to see the dial has been worked over, you really cannot do any more harm in getting it re-lumed. Vintage dials are hard to find untouched, and when you do find the perfect dial it is costly.

22 June 2011, 09:18 AM	#10
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	I think you made the best decision! Post pica when ot comes back!

22 June 2011, 09:30 AM	#11
Saxon007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,002	I think you made the right decision. It won't hurt to relume since it has already been done once and Kent Parks has done some nice watches. I wish he still made custom dials. Post some photos when it comes back. __________________ Licensed to kill time.

22 June 2011, 10:00 AM	#12
matt4hand Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Atlanta Watch: Tramp Posts: 2,369	correct decision in my book !

22 June 2011, 11:14 AM	#13
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Kent is sending it back this week. Here are his quick and dirties. I think it REALLY turned out well. What do you think?? __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

22 June 2011, 11:23 AM	#14
glocati "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Greg Location: Portland, Oregon Watch: 1675/3+16013 Posts: 538	Congrats ! That looks great and is FUNCTIONAL ! Very nice.

22 June 2011, 11:42 AM	#15
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Very nice end result! Looks original! Love the nice aged re-lume job! Congrats!

22 June 2011, 11:43 AM	#16
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	BTW: Matches the pearl on the insert, is the insert original?

22 June 2011, 12:01 PM	#17
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,682	That really looks sweet.

22 June 2011, 12:11 PM	#18
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	.......so. right about now you need to post the info of this mr. ken parks. it that watch watch was on Diners Drive-ins and DIves, it would be the capital of flavor-town. harry in mtl

22 June 2011, 12:56 PM	#21
Eric88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 88 keys Posts: 2,241	Wow, that's impressive! I've only seen one other vintage Sub with lume that is anywhere close to that.

22 June 2011, 03:25 PM	#23
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	Good result

22 June 2011, 03:37 PM	#24
Ross Povey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: UK Posts: 125	Looks good...... you made the right choice imo! :)

22 June 2011, 04:00 PM	#25
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,929	nice job ..and seeing ti was relumed already certainly nothing heretical there :)

22 June 2011, 04:36 PM	#26
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	i certainly do, looking forward to seeing it. EDIT i love the way 4 people said sell it haha __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

22 June 2011, 05:28 PM	#27
ob1 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: canterbury Watch: new pussycat? Posts: 635	Blimey, that is a good job

22 June 2011, 05:56 PM	#28
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	That came out really NICE! What did he re-lume it with? Tritium? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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