Difference in 3135 movements in Sub 16610....

[calibre1]

Hi guys,

I wonder what are the difference between the 3135 movement in a 'Z' serial sub versus those non-C sub with engraved rehault ( M, V, G) serial?

Many thanks in advanced.

[padi56]

The only difference in any cal 3135 that was first introduced in 1988/9 is,now some have the in-house hairspring and shock system like in the ceramic subs.Plus the different movement serial numbers but no big deal either way IMHO. As the 3135 has been used in millions upon millions of Rolex watches with a excellent track record in all departments.

[calibre1]

Originally Posted by padi56

The only difference in any cal 3135 that was first introduced in 1988/9 is,now some have the in-house hairspring and shock system like in the ceramic subs.Plus the different movement serial numbers but no big deal either way IMHO. As the 3135 has been used in millions upon millions of Rolex watches with a excellent track record in all departments.

Thanks Padi for your explanation.

Since the newer non -C Subs (with the engraved rehault) has the parachrome blue hairspring and shock system, I am surprised that Rolex still calls it caliber 3135.

One would expect it to have a different caliber number.

In the future, is it possible that Rolex will replace the Navirox hair spring with the parachrome blue hair spring when it is sent in for service assuming it needs to be changed? Same goes for the "shock system"?

Thanks in advance !

[cameronweiss]

The shock system is just a new name for the same system. Rolex purchased the company and renamed the spring system.

As for the hairspring, they wont be swapping hairsprings as that would require new balances or at the least a good static and dynamic poising.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by calibre1

Thanks Padi for your explanation.

Since the newer non -C Subs (with the engraved rehault) has the parachrome blue hairspring and shock system, I am surprised that Rolex still calls it caliber 3135.

One would expect it to have a different caliber number.

In the future, is it possible that Rolex will replace the Navirox hair spring with the parachrome blue hair spring when it is sent in for service assuming it needs to be changed? Same goes for the "shock system"?

Thanks in advance !

Would tend to agree the 3136 is a 3135 with the inhouse shock system.While the 3185 add a detent gear make movement slightly thicker to acommodate the stack gear it then becomes a 3186.Now add the in-house shock system to the 3186 it becomes a 3187 but basically all the same as the any 3 series that was first introduced in 1988/9

Originally Posted by cameronweiss

The shock system is just a new name for the same system. Rolex purchased the company and renamed the spring system.

As for the hairspring, they wont be swapping hairsprings as that would require new balances or at the least a good static and dynamic poising.

Well no the Paraflex is slightly different to the Kif system but would doubt if its any better than KIF or the incabloc system.As for the the hairspring well it was developed in conjunction with Patek.Rolex called the metal parachrom while Patek went there own way, and called the metal a different name.But its still a hairspring although the marketing make it out to be the best thing since sliced bread.In the real world would doubt if the average wearer would find any real advantage, over the millions upon millions of Rolex powered and Swiss powered watches with the Nivarox-Far ones today.

[calibre1]

Thanks Padi and Cameron.

So what is the name of the shock system in the 'Z' serial 16610 called again? Is it incabloc or KIF?

Anybody with pics comparing the old vs the new system with the new Paraflex shock system and parachrome spring? That would be interesting to see.

Many thanks...

[padi56]

Originally Posted by calibre1

Thanks Padi and Cameron.

So what is the name of the shock system in the 'Z' serial 16610 called again? Is it incabloc or KIF?

Anybody with pics comparing the old vs the new system with the new Paraflex shock system and parachrome spring? That would be interesting to see.

Many thanks...

Its the Kif.