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worktolivelife · 10 October 2005, 06:39 PM

what's your take on a vintage Rolex?, here's mine i love the look but unless i could get a "safe queen" rare and expensive without shall we say the patina of daily life over many years, im guessing i'd be just as happy if rolex went somewhat retro in its watch features, noteably were talking the dial i guess. am i missing the point do those with vintage pieces purchase them not purely for the look but something else more along the lines of a collector? . whats the score on rolex serviceing these pieces have i got this wrong? you could send in a vintage piece and effectually come out with a D series lookalike.

steve

PHOTOS WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CARE TO SHARE !!!

worktolivelife · 10 October 2005, 07:20 PM

if one was to start a quest for certain piece, im guessing im letting myself in for more dissapointment than joy until "that piece" turns up! any stories, you know the sort you travel hundreds of miles to the holygrail only to find its a POS mis advertised or the seller has rose tinted glasses

steve

padi56 · 10 October 2005, 07:56 PM

Well Steve most of the vintage watches have a lot of character a few
dings and scratches is part of its history.The thing a collector looks
more for in a vintage Rolex is 100% originality in all parts of watch.
The most important the dial case and movement.If a vintage Rolex dial is
damaged, a little bit of restoration,would be better than a new dial. Like
say owning a 5513 sub and put in a modern day sub dial, would totally destroy the value of the 5513 sub.So in most cases it would be better to get a
watch thats 100% original that one that had a lot of restoration.As for a
Rolex service, just a oil lube service, and perhaps a gentle case polish only
your watch is a vintage piece, worst think to do is having it look brand new.
Every vintage collectors dream,is to find a NOS (new old stock) vintage
Rolex, unworn still in the box,but now much rarer, than rocking horse sh##

Picture two 1922 Rolex Unicorn my cheapest watch, but one of my favourites.

Uncle-AJ · 10 October 2005, 10:24 PM

That unicorn is a fabulous beast.

padi56 · 11 October 2005, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

That unicorn is a fabulous beast.

Yes Adrian and like myself maturing well,hope my heart is still beating as
strong, at almost 84 years old.

worktolivelife · 11 October 2005, 01:45 AM

it still runs ? honestly!!!!!

within C.O.S.C regs ?

steve

padi56 · 11 October 2005, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worktolivelife

it still runs ? honestly!!!!!

within C.O.S.C regs ?

steve

Yes Steve still running strong,my mate who is a watchmaker,just done a
quick clean and oil about 6 months ago.And have wearing daily now for
6 months,keeps time to around +10 to +15 seconds a day,not bad for a
old un.

JJ Irani · 11 October 2005, 02:54 AM

...and also not bad for a mythological creature. Sorry, couldn't resist!!

padi56 · 11 October 2005, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

...and also not bad for a mythological creature. Sorry, couldn't resist!!

But its not a creature JJ, its a Rolex watch movenent as stamped on the tin.

Uncle-AJ · 11 October 2005, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

...and also not bad for a mythological creature. Sorry, couldn't resist!!

I've already done that joke but used the term "fabulous" as from fables.

I sometimes wonder if anyone listens.

JJ Irani · 11 October 2005, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

I've already done that joke but used the term "fabulous" as from fables.

I sometimes wonder if anyone listens.

Can't really "listen"; but why can't some of these tossers "read"?

maverick · 11 October 2005, 04:04 AM

For many it is the 'hunt' that makes collecting vintage their cup 'o tea. For others like myself, I just love the fact that this watch is over 32y/o and looks like it could be in a jewelers case. I wonder where it has been etc. Also, I know I will not run into anyone with an identical watch on their wrist. You just cannot walk into a store and buy something like this but you can do that with a new one.

It is hard to describe the feeling, warm and fuzzy as stated. But you need a Rolex trained watchmaker because Rolex will insist on changing the hands and ruin the watch. Also, Rolex is not real crazy about working on these due to the liability.

=) maverick

worktolivelife · 11 October 2005, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

That unicorn is a fabulous beast.

too subtle mate

your genius is wasted on us

steve

Uncle-AJ · 11 October 2005, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worktolivelife

too subtle mate

your genius is wasted on us

steve

I know.

worktolivelife · 11 October 2005, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick

For many it is the 'hunt' that makes collecting vintage their cup 'o tea. For others like myself, I just love the fact that this watch is over 32y/o and looks like it could be in a jewelers case. I wonder where it has been etc. Also, I know I will not run into anyone with an identical watch on their wrist. You just cannot walk into a store and buy something like this but you can do that with a new one.

It is hard to describe the feeling, warm and fuzzy as stated. But you need a Rolex trained watchmaker because Rolex will insist on changing the hands and ruin the watch. Also, Rolex is not real crazy about working on these due to the liability.

=) maverick

nice photo, you almost do it justice

maverick · 11 October 2005, 11:15 AM

Almost thank you.

=) maverick

Rockrolex · 11 October 2005, 12:02 PM

This is the oldest one in my collection - mid 1983 TT DJ. Has never been serviced and runs like a top.

maverick · 11 October 2005, 02:52 PM

That is a really nice peice. How long do you plan on not having it serviced? =) maverick
BTW, I love Roman numeral dials

CharlesN · 11 October 2005, 05:30 PM

I am still searching for "that" vintage piece.

I know it will either be one of the first Day-Dates or first Milgauss watches in perfect condition.

Second generation will not do for me.

It is a Day-Date that I am really after .... I was told that they are now very rare. I have come across one but it had a new dial and a diamonds added ...... Not the watch for me.

The waiting, searching and looking are part of the fun. I almost hope I don't find what I am looking for so I can keep on "Playing" this game.

padi56 · 11 October 2005, 05:58 PM

Thats a cracking Red Sub Maverick.

My favourite Roman dial Ed,nice watch.

Rockrolex · 11 October 2005, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick

That is a really nice peice. How long do you plan on not having it serviced? =) maverick
BTW, I love Roman numeral dials

I like it, too, but not quite as much as my other TT DJ with the raised gold Romans and Jubilee bracelet. I would not part with it, though, because it was the first Rolex I bought for myself. So if nothing else, it has great sentimental value.

As far as having it serviced, can't say, Mav. My philosophy is: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

dman · 11 October 2005, 10:56 PM

I have owned a few vintage Rolex watches, the problem is they are a bit*h to see in the middle of the night.

dman · 11 October 2005, 10:58 PM

I did buy my father a 1601 from 1977 two years ago as a birthday present, I guess if it has accrylic crystal, it must be vintage.

Mort · 11 October 2005, 11:16 PM

This is a 50's Super Oyster. I have been think of offering my TT GMT in trade. Not sure. I do not know much about the Super Oyster. It does not look like the crown screws down like regular Oysters do.

padi56 · 12 October 2005, 02:58 AM

What is the model number Mort is it ss or gold ?

maverick · 12 October 2005, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesN

I am still searching for "that" vintage piece.

I know it will either be one of the first Day-Dates or first Milgauss watches in perfect condition.

Second generation will not do for me.

It is a Day-Date that I am really after .... I was told that they are now very rare. I have come across one but it had a new dial and a diamonds added ...... Not the watch for me.

The waiting, searching and looking are part of the fun. I almost hope I don't find what I am looking for so I can keep on "Playing" this game.

Hi Charles, I hope that elusive DD shows up. Sounds like you are enjoying the hunt.

I may never buy another NIB Rolex again. It is good seeing you on this great site.

dman, you do not buy vintage for its super glow in the dark old lume. ;-)

=) maverick

JJ Irani · 12 October 2005, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

This is the oldest one in my collection - mid 1983 TT DJ. Has never been serviced and runs like a top.

Nice one, Ed. The black Romans are almost as good looking as the gold applied ones. I think you should have it serviced before things start to fall apart and you really wind up with a big bill for servicing as well as replacement parts.

JJ

Mort · 12 October 2005, 03:54 AM

I do not have a model number, but it is 14K. I have bought other vintage watches from this seller,including an old TT Oyster from the late 50's, which I later traded for a vintage 18k Omega Constellation.

dman · 12 October 2005, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick

dman, you do not buy vintage for its super glow in the dark old lume. ;-)

=) maverick

I know, LOL!! But I like to be able to see my watches throughout the night. It is a long story, but I hate fumbling for my glasses when I wake up, I also hate squinting to see the clock radio.
You can actually see the man in the moon through my glasses if you try hard enough, someone once told me when they put my glasses on they could see the future, you get the idea.

I am just more content with the glow of the newer and bigger dials.

padi56 · 12 October 2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mort

I do not have a model number, but it is 14K. I have bought other vintage watches from this seller,including an old TT Oyster from the late 50's, which I later traded for a vintage 18k Omega Constellation.

Well Mort your picture is a bit small,but it looks like a 6084 and if auto a 25 jewel.They retail in the UK for around
£900--£1500 for a mint example more if with gold bracelet.Some of these watches were given as retirement
watches,or a presentation watch.So some might have inscription on case back,this sometimes slightly devalues the watch.But not in all cases like if it was inscribed from a
Masonic lodge of free Masons,that would be very collectible .

10 October 2005, 06:39 PM	#1
worktolivelife "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,365	Vintage Rolex's what's your take on a vintage Rolex?, here's mine i love the look but unless i could get a "safe queen" rare and expensive without shall we say the patina of daily life over many years, im guessing i'd be just as happy if rolex went somewhat retro in its watch features, noteably were talking the dial i guess. am i missing the point do those with vintage pieces purchase them not purely for the look but something else more along the lines of a collector? . whats the score on rolex serviceing these pieces have i got this wrong? you could send in a vintage piece and effectually come out with a D series lookalike. steve PHOTOS WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CARE TO SHARE !!!

10 October 2005, 07:20 PM	#2
worktolivelife "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,365	afterthought if one was to start a quest for certain piece, im guessing im letting myself in for more dissapointment than joy until "that piece" turns up! any stories, you know the sort you travel hundreds of miles to the holygrail only to find its a POS mis advertised or the seller has rose tinted glasses steve

10 October 2005, 07:56 PM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,060	Well Steve most of the vintage watches have a lot of character a few dings and scratches is part of its history.The thing a collector looks more for in a vintage Rolex is 100% originality in all parts of watch. The most important the dial case and movement.If a vintage Rolex dial is damaged, a little bit of restoration,would be better than a new dial. Like say owning a 5513 sub and put in a modern day sub dial, would totally destroy the value of the 5513 sub.So in most cases it would be better to get a watch thats 100% original that one that had a lot of restoration.As for a Rolex service, just a oil lube service, and perhaps a gentle case polish only your watch is a vintage piece, worst think to do is having it look brand new. Every vintage collectors dream,is to find a NOS (new old stock) vintage Rolex, unworn still in the box,but now much rarer, than rocking horse sh## Picture two 1922 Rolex Unicorn my cheapest watch, but one of my favourites. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

10 October 2005, 10:24 PM	#4
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	That unicorn is a fabulous beast. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

11 October 2005, 02:54 AM	#8
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	...and also not bad for a mythological creature. Sorry, couldn't resist!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

11 October 2005, 01:45 AM	#6
worktolivelife "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,365	it still runs ? honestly!!!!! within C.O.S.C regs ? steve

11 October 2005, 04:04 AM	#12
maverick Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: maverick Location: Prescott Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,180	It is a different feeling For many it is the 'hunt' that makes collecting vintage their cup 'o tea. For others like myself, I just love the fact that this watch is over 32y/o and looks like it could be in a jewelers case. I wonder where it has been etc. Also, I know I will not run into anyone with an identical watch on their wrist. You just cannot walk into a store and buy something like this but you can do that with a new one. It is hard to describe the feeling, warm and fuzzy as stated. But you need a Rolex trained watchmaker because Rolex will insist on changing the hands and ruin the watch. Also, Rolex is not real crazy about working on these due to the liability. =) maverick

11 October 2005, 11:15 AM	#16
maverick Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: maverick Location: Prescott Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,180	Well, Almost thank you. =) maverick

11 October 2005, 12:02 PM	#17
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,966	This is the oldest one in my collection - mid 1983 TT DJ. Has never been serviced and runs like a top. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

11 October 2005, 02:52 PM	#18
maverick Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: maverick Location: Prescott Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,180	Wow That is a really nice peice. How long do you plan on not having it serviced? =) maverick BTW, I love Roman numeral dials

11 October 2005, 05:30 PM	#19
CharlesN "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The UK Watch: I love them all. Posts: 1,860	I am still looking I am still searching for "that" vintage piece. I know it will either be one of the first Day-Dates or first Milgauss watches in perfect condition. Second generation will not do for me. It is a Day-Date that I am really after .... I was told that they are now very rare. I have come across one but it had a new dial and a diamonds added ...... Not the watch for me. The waiting, searching and looking are part of the fun. I almost hope I don't find what I am looking for so I can keep on "Playing" this game. __________________ Regards, CharlesN Member of the IWJG.

11 October 2005, 05:58 PM	#20
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,060	Thats a cracking Red Sub Maverick. My favourite Roman dial Ed,nice watch. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

11 October 2005, 10:56 PM	#22
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	I have owned a few vintage Rolex watches, the problem is they are a bit*h to see in the middle of the night. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

11 October 2005, 10:58 PM	#23
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	I did buy my father a 1601 from 1977 two years ago as a birthday present, I guess if it has accrylic crystal, it must be vintage. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

11 October 2005, 11:16 PM	#24
Mort "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,001	One I have been looking at This is a 50's Super Oyster. I have been think of offering my TT GMT in trade. Not sure. I do not know much about the Super Oyster. It does not look like the crown screws down like regular Oysters do.

12 October 2005, 02:58 AM	#25
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,060	What is the model number Mort is it ss or gold ? __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

12 October 2005, 03:54 AM	#28
Mort "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,001	I do not have a model number, but it is 14K. I have bought other vintage watches from this seller,including an old TT Oyster from the late 50's, which I later traded for a vintage 18k Omega Constellation.

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