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Old 14 August 2011, 05:16 AM   #1
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15% off New YG DD With Free Extra Link. Good Deal?

As I've mentioned in previous threads I've been thinking about a new DD preferable in WG but YG would be no slouch

Anyway I was at the mall at one of the more reputable AD's around (based on my experiences with them) and they had a gorgeous YG DD with champagne stick dial 36mm right there in stock. Z series which indicated to me its been there a while so I asked what could they realistically sell it for in the nicest way possible . Keep in mind I'm totally dressed like a hung over college kid but hey whatever. So he comes back and says 15% off and they will give the the extra link no charge ($580 retail).

I'm seriously thinking that's the best I will ever do from an AD. He agreed on the DD there is more room given the cost and ease of ordering another rather than the sport models that appeal to the masses like me.

It has been suggested to look on the forum and although I've bought one from one of TRF's most trusted seller I believe a purchase of this magnitude would be better made at the AD. As for the price - deal or no deal?
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Old 14 August 2011, 05:19 AM   #2
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I believe a purchase of this magnitude would be better made at the AD.
With a purchase this big i'd defiantly go with one our trusted ones, That could save you the BIG bucks
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Old 14 August 2011, 05:28 AM   #3
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You can do a lot better than 15%. Call our friend DavidSW.
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Old 14 August 2011, 05:50 AM   #4
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When purchasing form an AD I think the 15% is great especially if you have never purchased from them before.

Doesn't hurt to ask for twenty as long as your prepared to go through with it if they say yes.

Good luck!!!!!
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Old 14 August 2011, 06:35 AM   #5
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GO in with cash..Ask for 25% off.
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Old 14 August 2011, 06:38 AM   #6
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Old 14 August 2011, 06:47 AM   #7
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I can get 20% off day dates all day long id go with DavidSW
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Old 14 August 2011, 06:47 AM   #8
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DDs are not fast sellers so I would bat for 20%, what could you possibly lose by asking?
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Old 14 August 2011, 07:21 AM   #9
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Not sure on if it's a good price or not but as for the extra link, do you need it or would you rather have the $$$?
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Old 14 August 2011, 07:25 AM   #10
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You can do a lot better than 15%. Call our friend DavidSW.
Most ADs will go at least 15% on a watch of that type, some even 20%. There is more to be made,hence they can give a better discount. Shop around a bit more and find out what you can do elsewhere. The extra link doesn't really mean anything if you don't need it.
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Old 14 August 2011, 08:07 AM   #11
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Rolex AD's go at least %20 discount for all gold Oyster Professional series.
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Old 14 August 2011, 09:34 AM   #12
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Gold = 20 to 25 % at least

Gold models are not fast seller

And I am pretty sure you can find a nicer price on TRF...
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Old 14 August 2011, 10:07 AM   #13
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It probably has sat there through several price increases. I'd tell the dude 30% or you walk.
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Old 14 August 2011, 10:15 AM   #14
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It probably has sat there through several price increases. I'd tell the dude 30% or you walk.
On way to know is to ask for the serial number of the watch. If you find out it is 2 or 3 years old : bingo :)
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Old 14 August 2011, 11:20 AM   #15
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Lately with all the muscle Rolex is flexing towards their AD's
about discounts and dedicated space ...plus seriously huffing
and puffing by running hard after "Greys"...I do not think it will
help us long term (discounting) ...and I mean here at TRF.
Rolex is EVERYWHERE and I know they know who the "greys" are
or the discounters, or the tax saving schemes etc.

The truth is that flipping, dealing, trading, selling etc.
is coming to a sad end...so if any of you want a discount
you have about a year to be able to GET ONE with new watches
...and then.....then AD's will be the remedy...UNFORTUNATELY

I for one...am becoming an AD...
So if you wanna have discounts you got to become a percentage
partner...hummm..I am thinking 30k for one percent...?...
You know what they say
"When you can not fight them"...etc...

Ohh by the way...I was offered a DD-II-41mm YG M serial for 24k ..(BNIB)
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Old 14 August 2011, 11:21 AM   #16
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Thanks for the replies folks. Now that I think about it a Z series is from 2006 which means the technology in that watch is 5yrs old. My SS Daytona is a Z series so I know the year is close to correct. The watch was probably 20-22K back then and has in fact been thru several increases so the AD paid way less than currect wholesale.

As for the extra link yes I do need it. It's a bit too snug and I have always gotten an extra link with all of my watches. I might go back and say 25% and I'll take it now, all cash so no CC fees. That might work.
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Old 14 August 2011, 11:27 AM   #17
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Lately with all the muscle Rolex is flexing towards their AD's
about discounts and dedicated space ...plus seriously huffing
and puffing by running hard after "Greys"...I do not think it will
help us long term (discounting) ...and I mean here at TRF.
Rolex is EVERYWHERE and I know they know who the "greys" are
or the discounters, or the tax saving schemes etc.

The truth is that flipping, dealing, trading, selling etc.
is coming to a sad end...so if any of you want a discount
you have about a year to be able to GET ONE with new watches
...and then.....then AD's will be the remedy...UNFORTUNATELY

I for one...am becoming an AD...
So if you wanna have discounts you got to become a percentage
partner...hummm..I am thinking 30k for one percent...?...
You know what they say
"When you can not fight them"...etc...
im sorry I do not fully understand why ad's will be the remedy?... could you please explain your last comment sorry for being stupid hehe
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Old 14 August 2011, 11:28 AM   #18
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If the watch is 5 years old, you should use this argument in your negociation and ask for 30 to 35 % if you pay cash. It might work.
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Old 14 August 2011, 11:30 AM   #19
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15% off for a Z series? You can do much better than that. Just ping the trusted sellers here on TZ.
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Old 14 August 2011, 11:40 AM   #20
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im sorry I do not fully understand why ad's will be the remedy?... could you please explain your last comment sorry for being stupid hehe
The AD's will be the only remedy for the sickness we all have.
If you want a NEW Rolex ...only an AD will be able to supply it.
This is what Marini wants..and that's what he will get.
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Old 14 August 2011, 03:43 PM   #21
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The AD's will be the only remedy for the sickness we all have.
If you want a NEW Rolex ...only an AD will be able to supply it.
This is what Marini wants..and that's what he will get.

Well, obviously the DD from the AD i not that new since it is 5 years old... ;)
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Old 14 August 2011, 07:05 PM   #22
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If the watch is 5 years old, that's mean the cost price of the dd suppose to be 2006's pricing.. That's mean you got lots of room to negotiate.. Right? .. Good luck.. Btw, did you mention that you will need an extra link? If you do that means you have a very large wrist? Why not consider a dd2? A 41mm will look even better on you and maybe you will not need the extra link.. Anyway, thats just my 2 cent. Cheers! .. James
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Old 14 August 2011, 10:46 PM   #23
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Well, obviously the DD from the AD is not that new since it is 5 years old... ;)
Thank god for Rolex finally going into random serial numbers
5 years from now no one will know if a watch was made yesterday
or 5 years ago.
Do not take me wrong - I do not agree with Rolex S.A on
many items about company policy... and as a company
they disgust me with their fascist attitude for such policies.

Anyway
On expensive Rolex watches a Z serial could have been received
last year and not neccessarily 5 years ago. Serials on these do not work
the same way as steel subs, sometimes the cases are "stamped" Z serial
then went to stock and then assembly when needed or ordered... so many
times let's say you will receive two identical models but in different
color gold - one white gold with current random and a yellow gold
with M serial - it does not mean the W/G is "fresh" and Y/G "stale".

On the other hand I will agree that it is possible he has had the "President"
for many years but I doubt that he will give you more than 15% off
If indeed he has the watch in stock for 5 years he has "enslaved" a 15k capital
and I doubt that he will let it go without profit.
With Rolex I have learned that all watches will finally sell.

Look here in our forum ..some used watch dealers are asking "stratospheric"
prices - bump.. after bump... after bump.. and although they have bought
the watch "on the cheap" they will not sell for a quick reasonable profit
...a "pound of flesh" is what they are after.
So the Rolex buying public will punish them time after time..by no "biting"
But...if they wait for a couple of increases - even their watches...
will seem reasonable and sell....Ole !...

Oh by the way...what bothers me (incredibly)...these used watch sellers
do not contribute one "iota" in the forum with info - with tech - with ideas
or opinions ...and are strictly here to "unload" their ridiculously high priced Rolex.
They are definately NOT your TRF comrades or your source for a Rolex bargain.
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Old 15 August 2011, 12:43 AM   #24
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As has been said try speak to one of the sellers on here...
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Old 15 August 2011, 01:54 AM   #25
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Look here in our forum ..some used watch dealers are asking "stratospheric"
prices - bump.. after bump... after bump.. and although they have bought
the watch "on the cheap" they will not sell for a quick reasonable profit
...a "pound of flesh" is what they are after.
So the Rolex buying public will punish them time after time..by no "biting"
But...if they wait for a couple of increases - even their watches...
will seem reasonable and sell....Ole !...

Oh by the way...what bothers me (incredibly)...these used watch sellers
do not contribute one "iota" in the forum with info - with tech - with ideas
or opinions ...and are strictly here to "unload" their ridiculously high priced Rolex.
They are definately NOT your TRF comrades or your source for a Rolex bargain.
IMHO They have 0 interest in anything other than to sell the watches they bought on the cheap as you say on the forum for full retail. Most know absolutely nothing about watches other than what they should pay on 1 and what they should sell it for.
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Old 15 August 2011, 02:20 AM   #26
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You should be getting a min. of 25% discount for an all gold Rolex.
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Old 15 August 2011, 06:04 AM   #27
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I agree with TempoKing, just because a stock has been sitting on the floor for years doesn't mean you will negotiate based on the price he bought it for. There is the cost of capital tied up and the cost of replacing inventory.

However, bargaining will be more flexible as it will be based on the latest pricing.
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Old 15 August 2011, 06:11 AM   #28
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Old 15 August 2011, 06:56 AM   #29
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what a dealer paid for the watch has NOTHING to do with what they sell it for.

if you found a $100 bill on the ground, would you sell it to me for $60, no. its worth what its worth. but just cause a dealer got it "on the cheap" should have nothing to do with what they sell it for.
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I believe a purchase of this magnitude would be better made at the AD. As for the price - deal or no deal?
Call DavidSW...doesn't matter what the piece is, much better price, same watch.
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