Whats the deal on the vintage models?

[He wants a daytona]

I ask because it seems like an interesting way to a unique model...or am i wrong? also what are your oppinions on obtaining vintage faces and buying a new band? kind of like a mix and match build your own rolex type deal? (all rolex pieces though) any how its just a though...

[mikey]

Prices of vintage models are within the reach of many watch enthusiasts. The vintage models have plastic crystals. You can pay between $900-1300 depending on the vintage piece and enjoy it. You can upgrade that same vintage watch band, crystal, bezel, and dial depending on your wants and needs. You don't have to dump $4000-6000 on one watch. These are the benefits of buying vintage and on a reasonable budget. Check out the watch gallery here and my posts of Ultimate Rolex transformation to see my vintage watch and changes I made over time.

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by mikey

Prices of vintage models are within the reach of many watch enthusiasts. The vintage models have plastic crystals. You can pay between $900-1300 depending on the vintage piece and enjoy it. You can upgrade that same vintage watch band, crystal, bezel, and dial depending on your wants and needs. You don't have to dump $4000-6000 on one watch. These are the benefits of buying vintage and on a reasonable budget. Check out the watch gallery here and my posts of Ultimate Rolex transformation to see my vintage watch and changes I made over time.

Impressive! im going to check that out!

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by He wants a daytona

also what are your oppinions on obtaining vintage faces and buying a new band? kind of like a mix and match build your own rolex type deal? (all rolex pieces though)

It's no longer an original collectible, interesting piece, it's a mish mash. Great if the owner plans to keep it forever and enjoy it for what it is, not so great as to resale value to a knowledgeable collector.

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by Alcan

It's no longer an original collectible, interesting piece, it's a mish mash. Great if the owner plans to keep it forever and enjoy it for what it is, not so great as to resale value to a knowledgeable collector.

OK i see...so if i lke a model that dosent come with a mop or metior dial or a diamond brezel(i think thas what its called) im doomed? but i understood that rolex sells a kinds of bands and dials and brezels...or are they not authentic?

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by He wants a daytona

are they not authentic?

A Rolex can only be considered authentic if all the components were originally offered in that package (dial, bracelet, bezel, etc), and all the components are original Rolex parts. Straying from that makes the watch a bastardized version, which Rolex will probably not service unless returned to original configuration.

To verify this, call the Toronto RSC: 1-416-968-1100.

http://rolex.com/en/index.jsp#/en/xm...merica/toronto

Click on Toronto.

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by Alcan

A Rolex can only be considered authentic if all the components were originally offered in that package (dial, bracelet, bezel, etc), and all the components are original Rolex parts. Straying from that makes the watch a bastardized version, which Rolex will probably not service unless returned to original configuration.

To verify this, call the Toronto RSC: 1-416-968-1100.

http://rolex.com/en/index.jsp#/en/xm...merica/toronto

Click on Toronto.

so if i plan to start a collection im best to havea coupple full models before buying parts of ones in not so fab condition and rebuilding them? you must admit that it would be pritty cool to see what an arts can do with a fue busted up rolex's no? consider it rolex art... not to e worn nessisairaly but to have as part of your rolex shrine...i duno i think it would be interesting

[erasuretim]

Hi!

I love vintage watches and have collected loads over the years - i have a Rolex from 1923 [trench watch style] that needs a bit of TLC so it can be worn. I also have a Rolex OP from 1967. I think that vintage watches [esp Rolex, but not exclusively] have a unique 'cool' factor that singles the wearer as a connoisseur, rather than someone who went to the jewelers with a bundle of cash and bought what was in fashion.

Being a lover of things classic and timeless is what attracts me to Rolex and to buying my Sub - one of the few 'new' watches i wear. The market for vintage Rolex is quite hot, with certain models making big money. But if you step outside of the rarefied collectible zone there are still lots of cool wathces to be had at good prices.

Regards

Tim

[jac67]

Originally Posted by mikey

Prices of vintage models are within the reach of many watch enthusiasts.

Yes, very affordable.

Originally Posted by mikey

You can pay between $900-1300 depending on the vintage piece and enjoy it.

Originally Posted by mikey

You don't have to dump $4000-6000 on one watch.

you should be so lucky.

Originally Posted by mikey

These are the benefits of buying vintage and on a reasonable budget.

Sorry Mikey, I couldn't resist. No hard feelings mate. All in good fun. You do have some good points though.


John.

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by erasuretim

Hi!

I love vintage watches and have collected loads over the years - i have a Rolex from 1923 [trench watch style] that needs a bit of TLC so it can be worn. I also have a Rolex OP from 1967. I think that vintage watches [esp Rolex, but not exclusively] have a unique 'cool' factor that singles the wearer as a connoisseur, rather than someone who went to the jewelers with a bundle of cash and bought what was in fashion.

Being a lover of things classic and timeless is what attracts me to Rolex and to buying my Sub - one of the few 'new' watches i wear. The market for vintage Rolex is quite hot, with certain models making big money. But if you step outside of the rarefied collectible zone there are still lots of cool wathces to be had at good prices.

Regards

Tim

I agree that there is somthing special about someting vintage ...my mom was raised in europe and has some amazing cloths as does my ant (form italy/swizerland/GB and such) whie my aut keps almost all of it my mom didnt and im fuming! lol anyhow my sister just inherated a vintage watch from my late aunt...but ill have to find out what it was. i also came across a site with VINTAGE ROLEX POCKET WATCHES! Ive oticed alot of the collectors seem to collect the modern new models as you said...but if My plans are to diversify...some vintage soe new a bit of everything basing my collection on an air of orriginality. GOD this is going to be an expensive habit!

[mikey]

To put it in perspective. A basatrdized Rolex is when you change or modify the watch from original. Keep in mind that Rolex repair people are not the only ones qualified to repair the watch. Win lose or draw a restoration or full service is $500. I pay upward of a $75 for what many guys on this forum pay $500 because I found a jeweller that I could trust way before any Rolex I ever had problems. Good idea to map things out. The other alternative is getting tired of the watch and resale to change or upgrade another model also known as flipping. Many guys on this forum can write you a book on that!

[He wants a daytona]

Id personaly prefer collecting them as i said.
Really diversifying over fliping...for me this is becomming more about the beauty ive learnt to see in thies watches than about "just having a rolex" ,so id want a bit of everything! If i see potential in a really banged up model at a good price...my creativity wont allow to pass it up. il take the opp to create with it! that having been said a classic untouched modern piece is just as much a staple to a collection as a vintage/ exotic/ unique/rare/ugly(those of you who collect art know what i mean by this lol) or created piece...IMO variety is the spice of the collection

Those of you who think im off my rocker, thats ok...i just want to see a bit of everything rolex..not just the safe or conventional. If anyone has some trully hidious or outragious ics please send thm my way id love to have a look

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by He wants a daytona

Those of you who think im off my rocker, thats ok...

We're all falling off that same rocker here, why else would we spend what we do on watches?

Btw, here's a little Rolex number you might like, the Leopard Daytona. And yep, it's 100% authentic Rolex, for a mere $50K or so :

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by He wants a daytona

so if i plan to start a collection im best to havea coupple full models before buying parts of ones in not so fab condition and rebuilding them? you must admit that it would be pritty cool to see what an arts can do with a fue busted up rolex's no? consider it rolex art... not to e worn nessisairaly but to have as part of your rolex shrine...i duno i think it would be interesting

Jocke here has done a lot of switching dials, hands, etc. Some of his results are pretty cool. Somebody might have the link to his website handy. In the meantime, check out the YachtMaster hands on his black dial DateJust.:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=17022

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Before getting involved in collecting vintage Rolexes, I would do a LOT of research and reading about spotting "marriages" (=parts from newer or other models added/exchanged later), telling what is fake and not, and judging the condition (inner an outer!) of the watch.

It takes a LOOONG time, but you can get much help here from guys like "Mike" and "Padi56" who know a lot about vintage Rolexes.

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by He wants a daytona

i also came across a site with VINTAGE ROLEX POCKET WATCHES!

Here's one for you, my WW II British military Rolex backup pocket watch. Who knows, this one might have landed on D-Day:

Originally Posted by He wants a daytona

Ive oticed alot of the collectors seem to collect the modern new models as you said...but if My plans are to diversify...some vintage soe new a bit of everything basing my collection on an air of orriginality. GOD this is going to be an expensive habit!

That has to be the understatement of the day!!!

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by Alcan

We're all falling off that same rocker here, why else would we spend what we do on watches?

Btw, here's a little Rolex number you might like, the Leopard Daytona. And yep, it's 100% authentic Rolex, for a mere $50K or so :

You see! thats what im talking about!!!!!its great!

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by Alcan

Jocke here has done a lot of switching dials, hands, etc. Some of his results are pretty cool. Somebody might have the link to his website handy. In the meantime, check out the YachtMaster hands on his black dial DateJust.:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=17022

Thats a handsome watch.very elegant dont you think?

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

Before getting involved in collecting vintage Rolexes, I would do a LOT of research and reading about spotting "marriages" (=parts from newer or other models added/exchanged later), telling what is fake and not, and judging the condition (inner an outer!) of the watch.

It takes a LOOONG time, but you can get much help here from guys like "Mike" and "Padi56" who know a lot about vintage Rolexes.

Thank you that info is valuable to me because i tend to get ahead of myself...

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by Alcan

Here's one for you, my WW II British military Rolex backup pocket watch. Who knows, this one might have landed on D-Day:







That has to be the understatement of the day!!!

Im CRAZZZZY like that! ive said it before and il say it again..im a smart girl and i WIlL be a sucsess...so give me a few years, i might shock you! you should see my motivation for sucses pieces i posted...people think im so crazy they dont even bother commenting...

[problmchylde]

Personally....I love vintage watches.PERIOD.Be they ROLEX....TUDORS.....OMEGAS.The old rolexes have bigger hour markers.{DOTS}.It gives them all a maxi look.Also......some of them have turn a nice cream colour on the dots....giving them a 'warm' look..IMHO.CHEERS

[mike]

Man! What a collection!!!

[jac67]

Now THAT'S more like it.

Nice collection.


John.

[C.J.]

Originally Posted by mike

Man! What a collection!!!

DITTO! Just awesome, pal

[He wants a daytona]

Originally Posted by problmchylde

Personally....I love vintage watches.PERIOD.Be they ROLEX....TUDORS.....OMEGAS.The old rolexes have bigger hour markers.{DOTS}.It gives them all a maxi look.Also......some of them have turn a nice cream colour on the dots....giving them a 'warm' look..IMHO.CHEERS

multo bene! those omegas are HUGE! The tidors and the rolex look alot alike...or is it just me? Either way its an amazing collection..very motivating! Thanks ! i see what you mean about the turning of the markers...its they lok kind of like drops of cream! i think it gives it more than warmth...i find it almost a refining quality...no?

[problmchylde]

Thats the beauty of the vintage ROLEXES.When evenly aged and yellowed.....they look simply awesome.It gives them more 'character'

Now.....my problem is deciding what to buy as my 1st 'MODERN' Rolex.Currently stuck between the new MILGAUSS or even the new COSC 14060m.Hmmmm....

[Lol-x]

Milgauss for me no question about that.
However, it might be a while (months) before they arrive. The lack of a date can be a problem for me, like today, I sent out 5 invoices with 5 July instead of 4 July....I'm going to have to bin my 5512 for that. n:

[problmchylde]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Milgauss for me no question about that.
However, it might be a while (months) before they arrive. The lack of a date can be a problem for me, like today, I sent out 5 invoices with 5 July instead of 4 July....I'm going to have to bin my 5512 for that. n:

The 5512 is a keeper.Thats why i m also considering the new 14060m......wif the COSC wordings.....it will be a 4 liner.....jus like the vintage 5512.I can live wif the fact that its got no date .... hence my 2 choices.LOVE a flat saphire ....

[mike]

Originally Posted by problmchylde

The 5512 is a keeper.Thats why i m also considering the new 14060m......wif the COSC wordings.....it will be a 4 liner.....jus like the vintage 5512.I can live wif the fact that its got no date .... hence my 2 choices.LOVE a flat saphire ....

You know, I wonder how much of a rare bird the 4 line 14060M might be a few years down the road if Rolex does revamp the Sub line like they have the GMT series.

Just thinking outloud.....

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by mike

You know, I wonder how much of a rare bird the 4 line 14060M might be a few years down the road if Rolex does revamp the Sub line like they have the GMT series.

Just thinking outloud.....

I for my part am getting more and more tempted by the 14060M. It is such a beautiful and "clean" watch to look at. And I like that it still has lug holes and non SEL (Solid End Links)

BTW: I have just read on a German watch forum that a 14060M (well, probably with another ref. #) has been seen in an AD window display that has the COSC writing on the dial!!

At the Baselworld 2007 Fair, Rolex announced that ALL Rolexes were to become COSC from now on. So probably, the Sub spotted is one of the first to appear!

But - as "Padi56" has stated in other threads/posts, the COSC rating is more of a sales' gimmick than necessary. The 14060M as we know it now could easily - and DOES easily! - perform well within the COSC ratings.