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DaddyPhatStackz · 31 August 2011, 03:44 AM

I know there have been several other threads and I have spent countless hours researching real vs. fake rolex watches. Even after all of my research I still can't figure out if I have the real one or a very nice replica. The watch in question is this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolex_Daytona

and is the second one pictured. It is the Black Face 1992 Daytona AD Winnner 24 18k White Gold.

This watch was given to me by a VERY good and humble and trustworthy friend. He is a senior engineer for a VERY large corporation and the watch was given to him as a gift by the ex-president of his divison that just recently retired. My buddy told me that the gentleman that gave him the watch showed him papers on it but didnt give him the papers (????). My buddy feels that it is real and that the guy who gave it to him would have never wore a "fake" watch. I feel bad because I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth or doubt a friend but a FAKE is a FAKE is a FAKE and if it really is fake than I want him to know.

After all my research I would have to say if this is a knock off it is the best I have seen. I did take it to a jeweler to have the clasp fixed and a link removed (and here is where the story gets interesting). The jewler immediatley looked at the watch and asked if I won it in a sales contest. He said it was a rare rolex and very expensive. He was skeptical from the jump (or so he acted). The watch was sent away and they said they couldnt fix it because it wasnt real. However when I got it back it had more issues with it. Some of the parts on the face had come undone and were floating in the watch. I was really upset because that was not how I gave it to them. He said "well tahts what happens with fakes" and was rude about it. My first inclanation was maybe they switched it out, knowing they had a guy who didnt know about watches and gave me back a fake. Than the jewler agreed to go inside the glass and fix it for me. I just got it back and it has a small scratch on the inside of the glass now (barley visible but there) so I am still really mad. However if it is a fake I dont really care. My concern is that 1. it WAS real the jelwers swicthed it out on me and gave me back a hunk of junk hence all the prolems and I just lost a VERY rare and expensive gift or 2. It just is a fake and the jewler was nice enough to work on it anyway.

Here are some pictures someone please end the madness lol PLEASE HELP me figure this out.

Tools · 31 August 2011, 06:02 AM

Welcome to the Forum

The answer is Yes, it is fake !!

No, it is not 18k gold, it is Stainless Steel

TSW · 31 August 2011, 06:07 AM

Ugly fake!

jcherskine · 31 August 2011, 06:20 AM

No such thing as a very nice replica...its a POS.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Welcome to TRF.

Hope you get a genuine one next time.

DaddyPhatStackz · 31 August 2011, 06:26 AM

I am saving up for a Rolex. This one was just handed to me. And I meant Stainless Steel not Gold

DaddyPhatStackz · 31 August 2011, 06:29 AM

Just out of curiousity how can you tell so quickly that it is a fake. What are the dead giveaways? I did a lot of research on the hands, the clasp, the smooth back etc... and allof that was on point. So what are the dead giveaways?

dieseldragon · 31 August 2011, 06:33 AM

most of those pieces of sh*t actually read "wiener" and not winner..

TSW · 31 August 2011, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyPhatStackz

Just out of curiousity how can you tell so quickly that it is a fake. What are the dead giveaways? I did a lot of research on the hands, the clasp, the smooth back etc... and allof that was on point. So what are the dead giveaways?

Besides from the caseback

dial, endlinks , shape of the case.....

LI Matt · 31 August 2011, 06:36 AM

There are lots of "1992 Daytona 24 Hours Winner" casebacks floating around. FTR, there are only three drivers who won the 1992 race, and they're Japanese, so what are the odds of a real one making its way to you in Ohio?

DaddyPhatStackz · 31 August 2011, 06:39 AM

thats just the thing the caseback is not engraved its smooth. The writing is indetical, the weight is the same, the clasp is the same, the hands are the same lenght the dials are same size and distance..... I guess I am just naive enough to think someone would actually "give" someone else a watch that expensive.

I am a Rolex Rookie as you can tell... I am still wearing Citizens LOL

DaddyPhatStackz · 31 August 2011, 06:42 AM

Matt, if that is true about the "92 Winners" than that makes A WHOLE LOT of sense

DaddyPhatStackz · 31 August 2011, 06:46 AM

The caseback actually reads

WINNER
1992 AD Daytona 24

TSW · 31 August 2011, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyPhatStackz

The caseback actually reads

WINNER
1992 AD Daytona 24

I think it actually reads Wiener

TSW · 31 August 2011, 06:59 AM

Does it have Original escape valve written around the case back as well?

rr-nyc · 31 August 2011, 08:41 AM

Either you're friend or his boss is a liar.

I can't even see the pics all that clearly and I can tell its a fake. If you compared it to pics of real Daytona's, it would be obvious. If you're still not convinced after comparing the pics, the dial falling apart off should have

Besides, what are the odds that someone gives away $11K watch to an employee and then he decides to give it to a friend?

Grissom · 31 August 2011, 11:16 AM

DaddyPhatStackz......

Take it to your local Rolex Authorized Dealer and compare it to a real one....

conrail · 1 September 2011, 01:54 AM

I can tell immediately from those lousy pics that its a fake. Some friend you've got, if that is in fact the actual story.

robertneville · 1 September 2011, 03:02 AM

sorry, fake and a bad one at that...

Welshwatchman · 1 September 2011, 03:31 AM

The dial gave it away in a half second glance.

This is the cheapest chinese fake, the $3 - 5 version.

It's really nasty, nothing like an original 116520, nevermind a genuine Daytona Winner presentation watch.

Gaijin · 13 June 2012, 07:13 PM

Good Lord...

crowncollection · 13 June 2012, 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=umar;3355376]Dear,
i have Rolex 24 AD DAYTONA 1992 WINNER
gifted by someone and i would like to know its original or not. it has small beeds looks like diamonds on dial and chain.
If its original then i like to sale it now.
plzzzz help.

I think your in the wrong place mate, we are not fools here, no one will buy your fake watch here, mods will deal with this I am sure. That's not a sensible first post just a troll, I would say Goodbye to your membership here, goodbye

Monte Cristo · 13 June 2012, 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=umar;3355376]Dear,
i have Rolex 24 AD DAYTONA 1992 WINNER
gifted by someone and i would like to know its original or not. it has small beeds looks like diamonds on dial and chain.
If its original then i like to sale it now.
plzzzz help.

You've come to The Rolex Forum to try and peddle your junk?
You must be a couple of slices short of a loaf mate.

mcjp6 · 13 June 2012, 10:09 PM

Hold on guys....this thread is eight months old........

BH13GMT · 13 June 2012, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

Hold on guys....this thread is eight months old........

crowncollection · 13 June 2012, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

Hold on guys....this thread is eight months old........

Oops missed that

Gaijin · 14 June 2012, 01:08 AM

Yes but bumped up today by a knucklehead who wanted to ell one of those POS he said he had been gifted.

Gaijin · 15 June 2012, 01:54 AM

I meant to say "sell" one...

Sorry.

azguy · 15 June 2012, 02:11 AM

31 August 2011, 06:02 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,499	Welcome to the Forum The answer is Yes, it is fake !! No, it is not 18k gold, it is Stainless Steel __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

31 August 2011, 06:07 AM	#3
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Ugly fake! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

31 August 2011, 06:33 AM	#7
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	most of those pieces of sht actually read "wiener" and not winner.. __________________ Rolex* GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

31 August 2011, 06:36 AM	#9
LI Matt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 298	There are lots of "1992 Daytona 24 Hours Winner" casebacks floating around. FTR, there are only three drivers who won the 1992 race, and they're Japanese, so what are the odds of a real one making its way to you in Ohio? __________________ I don't wear a Rolex for other people, I wear it for me. "We're going to hell anyway, let's travel first class" -- Kaiser Chiefs

31 August 2011, 06:59 AM	#14
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Does it have Original escape valve written around the case back as well? __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

31 August 2011, 06:20 AM	#4
jcherskine "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: John Location: Scotland Watch: DJII 116300 Posts: 1,970	No such thing as a very nice replica...its a POS. Sorry to disappoint you. Welcome to TRF. Hope you get a genuine one next time.

31 August 2011, 06:26 AM	#5
DaddyPhatStackz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 6	I am saving up for a Rolex. This one was just handed to me. And I meant Stainless Steel not Gold

31 August 2011, 06:29 AM	#6
DaddyPhatStackz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 6	Just out of curiousity how can you tell so quickly that it is a fake. What are the dead giveaways? I did a lot of research on the hands, the clasp, the smooth back etc... and allof that was on point. So what are the dead giveaways?

31 August 2011, 06:39 AM	#10
DaddyPhatStackz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 6	thats just the thing the caseback is not engraved its smooth. The writing is indetical, the weight is the same, the clasp is the same, the hands are the same lenght the dials are same size and distance..... I guess I am just naive enough to think someone would actually "give" someone else a watch that expensive. I am a Rolex Rookie as you can tell... I am still wearing Citizens LOL

31 August 2011, 06:42 AM	#11
DaddyPhatStackz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 6	Matt, if that is true about the "92 Winners" than that makes A WHOLE LOT of sense

31 August 2011, 06:46 AM	#12
DaddyPhatStackz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 6	The caseback actually reads WINNER 1992 AD Daytona 24

31 August 2011, 08:41 AM	#15
rr-nyc Liar & Ratbag Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: NYC / Miami Beach Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 5,344	Either you're friend or his boss is a liar. I can't even see the pics all that clearly and I can tell its a fake. If you compared it to pics of real Daytona's, it would be obvious. If you're still not convinced after comparing the pics, the dial falling apart off should have Besides, what are the odds that someone gives away $11K watch to an employee and then he decides to give it to a friend?

31 August 2011, 11:16 AM	#16
Grissom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nathan Location: US, Latin America Watch: GMT IIc 18K/SS Posts: 3,349	DaddyPhatStackz...... Take it to your local Rolex Authorized Dealer and compare it to a real one.... __________________ *(Member NAWCC since 1976)* 116713LN GMT-IIc 18k/SS (Z) + 116520 SS Daytona (M) + 16700 GMT Master (A) + 16610LV Submariner (V) + 16600 Sea Dweller (Z) + 116400 Milgauss White Dial (V) + 70330N Tudor Heritage Chronograph Grey w/Black Sub Dials (J) + 5513 Submariner Serif Dial (5.2 Mil) Who else needs an Intervention? (109 297) (137 237) (73 115) (221) (23) (56) (229) P-Club Member #5 RIP JJ Irani - TRF Legend

1 September 2011, 01:54 AM	#17
conrail "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 3,177	I can tell immediately from those lousy pics that its a fake. Some friend you've got, if that is in fact the actual story. __________________ "Oh, you give a f****' aspirin a headache, pal!"

1 September 2011, 03:02 AM	#18
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	sorry, fake and a bad one at that... __________________ Motocross is life!

1 September 2011, 03:31 AM	#19
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	The dial gave it away in a half second glance. This is the cheapest chinese fake, the $3 - 5 version. It's really nasty, nothing like an original 116520, nevermind a genuine Daytona Winner presentation watch. __________________ ..33

13 June 2012, 07:13 PM	#20
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Good Lord...

13 June 2012, 07:20 PM	#21
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	[QUOTE=umar;3355376]Dear, i have Rolex 24 AD DAYTONA 1992 WINNER gifted by someone and i would like to know its original or not. it has small beeds looks like diamonds on dial and chain. If its original then i like to sale it now. plzzzz help. I think your in the wrong place mate, we are not fools here, no one will buy your fake watch here, mods will deal with this I am sure. That's not a sensible first post just a troll, I would say Goodbye to your membership here, goodbye __________________ watches many Last edited by HL65; 13 June 2012 at 09:46 PM..

13 June 2012, 08:35 PM	#22
Monte Cristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Watch: ing you... Posts: 3,775	[QUOTE=umar;3355376]Dear, i have Rolex 24 AD DAYTONA 1992 WINNER gifted by someone and i would like to know its original or not. it has small beeds looks like diamonds on dial and chain. If its original then i like to sale it now. plzzzz help. You've come to The Rolex Forum to try and peddle your junk? You must be a couple of slices short of a loaf mate. __________________ 'I am easily satisfied with the very best' - Winston Churchill

13 June 2012, 10:09 PM	#23
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Hold on guys....this thread is eight months old........

14 June 2012, 01:08 AM	#26
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Yes but bumped up today by a knucklehead who wanted to ell one of those POS he said he had been gifted.

15 June 2012, 01:54 AM	#27
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	I meant to say "sell" one... Sorry.

15 June 2012, 02:11 AM	#28
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