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brandobot · 12 September 2011, 11:35 PM

Can anyone authenticate this sub? If anything is wrong, be detailed. Thanks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123

alexthegreat123 · 12 September 2011, 11:43 PM

All fake, clasp is dead giveaway, very common for fakes

brandobot · 12 September 2011, 11:47 PM

Thanks Alex. What are the differences you look for in the clasp? Any links to any real ones that can differentiate the two?

tudorman8276 · 12 September 2011, 11:48 PM

...NOTICE the telltale 62523H 18 on the folding clasp-consistent with fakes.

...62523H 18 is a ref# for a 2-tone JUBILEE band-not an Oyster band.

...telltale D12 clasp.

...telltale circle on the bottom of the crown on the buckle-consistent with fakes.

...genuine is a flattened arch.

...crown guard incorrect.

...rectangular thumbnail recess-fake.

...genuine is CONCAVE.

...etc, etc, etc.

Numismatist · 12 September 2011, 11:56 PM

I don't know if you're trying to buy this watch, but people need to spend less time trying to authenticate the watch and more time trying to authenticate the seller.

brandobot · 12 September 2011, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numismatist

I don't know if you're trying to buy this watch, but people need to spend less time trying to authenticate the watch and more time trying to authenticate the seller.

I'm trying to learn more about the watches themselves. I've purchased two Datejusts from 0-5 feedback members and brought them to Rolex service centers and had proven them authentic after opening the caseback. I don't want to miss out on a good deal just because someone has low feedback. (we all have to start somewhere right?)

brandobot · 12 September 2011, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tudorman8276

...NOTICE the telltale 62523H 18 on the folding clasp-consistent with fakes.

...62523H 18 is a ref# for a 2-tone JUBILEE band-not an Oyster band.

...telltale D12 clasp.

...telltale circle on the bottom of the crown on the buckle-consistent with fakes.

...genuine is a flattened arch.

...crown guard incorrect.

...rectangular thumbnail recess-fake.

...genuine is CONCAVE.

...etc, etc, etc.

Thanks!!!!

MonBK · 12 September 2011, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandobot

I'm trying to learn more about the watches themselves. I've purchased two Datejusts from 0-5 feedback members and brought them to Rolex service centers and had proven them authentic after opening the caseback. I don't want to miss out on a good deal just because someone has low feedback. (we all have to start somewhere right?)

Maybe there's a reason this guy has low feedbacks?

brandobot · 13 September 2011, 12:02 AM

Seller was unaware. I messaged him on eBay and he removed his listing on his own will.

Numismatist · 13 September 2011, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandobot

I'm trying to learn more about the watches themselves. I've purchased two Datejusts from 0-5 feedback members and brought them to Rolex service centers and had proven them authentic after opening the caseback. I don't want to miss out on a good deal just because someone has low feedback. (we all have to start somewhere right?)

You got lucky. Playing against the odds - might work

tudorman8276 · 13 September 2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brandobot

Seller was unaware. I messaged him on eBay and he removed his listing on his own will.

...not all sellers are as receptive as this one was.

...it is good...as this WAS headed for the TIN BIN-you saved him a "strike".

RolexWatcher · 13 September 2011, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandobot

I'm trying to learn more about the watches themselves. I've purchased two Datejusts from 0-5 feedback members and brought them to Rolex service centers and had proven them authentic after opening the caseback. I don't want to miss out on a good deal just because someone has low feedback. (we all have to start somewhere right?)

All the best! With high risk comes high rewards but be prepared - you can't always win 100% via this strategy!

tudorman8276 · 13 September 2011, 12:46 AM

...seller: bigballin

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brandobot · 13 September 2011, 01:22 AM

Also noticed he sold a similar watch "black face submariner" back in 2006 for around $1700. Seems like he's up to no good.

ErikXIV · 13 September 2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by brandobot

Seller was unaware. I messaged him on eBay and he removed his listing on his own will.

Hm, the post is back. Seller is definitely up to something bad dodo...

tudorman8276 · 13 September 2011, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ErikXIV

Hm, the post is back. Seller is definitely up to something bad dodo...

...you do not know what you are talking about...what listing??

...he has NOTHING for sale right now.

brandobot · 13 September 2011, 03:38 AM

Tudor, it is under his recent feedback. He sold a similar Submariner and received positive feedback for it.

freefly · 13 September 2011, 04:57 AM

Yep, I posted the same listing here yesterday:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=193911

I noticed that he has just changed his user name today as well. Now he is "mirab1nd13" (yesterday he was "bigballin86").

brandobot · 13 September 2011, 05:44 AM

Thanks. We'll have to watch this guy...

mrbill2mrbill2 · 13 September 2011, 06:59 AM

Listing is still up.

tudorman8276 · 13 September 2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

Listing is still up.

...seller ended the listing based upon an email from the OP.

12 September 2011, 11:35 PM	#1
brandobot 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Daytona Posts: 364	Authenticate this Submariner please Can anyone authenticate this sub? If anything is wrong, be detailed. Thanks! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123

12 September 2011, 11:43 PM	#2
alexthegreat123 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Cincinnati, OH Watch: GMT 16710 w/ 3186 Posts: 8,451	All fake, clasp is dead giveaway, very common for fakes __________________ GMT Master II 16710 w/3186 "M" Coke SeaDweller 16600 "M"

12 September 2011, 11:48 PM	#4
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...das FAULKER... ...NOTICE the telltale 62523H 18 on the folding clasp-consistent with fakes. ...62523H 18 is a ref# for a 2-tone JUBILEE band-not an Oyster band. ...telltale D12 clasp. ...telltale circle on the bottom of the crown on the buckle-consistent with fakes. ...genuine is a flattened arch. ...crown guard incorrect. ...rectangular thumbnail recess-fake. ...genuine is CONCAVE. ...etc, etc, etc.

12 September 2011, 11:56 PM	#5
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	I don't know if you're trying to buy this watch, but people need to spend less time trying to authenticate the watch and more time trying to authenticate the seller. __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

13 September 2011, 12:46 AM	#13
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...pic's... ...seller: bigballin

12 September 2011, 11:47 PM	#3
brandobot 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Daytona Posts: 364	Thanks Alex. What are the differences you look for in the clasp? Any links to any real ones that can differentiate the two?

13 September 2011, 12:02 AM	#9
brandobot 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Daytona Posts: 364	Seller was unaware. I messaged him on eBay and he removed his listing on his own will.

13 September 2011, 01:22 AM	#14
brandobot 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Daytona Posts: 364	Also noticed he sold a similar watch "black face submariner" back in 2006 for around $1700. Seems like he's up to no good.

13 September 2011, 03:38 AM	#17
brandobot 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Daytona Posts: 364	Tudor, it is under his recent feedback. He sold a similar Submariner and received positive feedback for it.

13 September 2011, 04:57 AM	#18
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Yep, I posted the same listing here yesterday: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=193911 I noticed that he has just changed his user name today as well. Now he is "mirab1nd13" (yesterday he was "bigballin86").

13 September 2011, 05:44 AM	#19
brandobot 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Daytona Posts: 364	Thanks. We'll have to watch this guy...

13 September 2011, 06:59 AM	#20
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Listing is still up. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

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