datejust with shantung dial

[knoffie]

I once owned a 16233 datejust 18ct s/s 36mm with a white shantung dial and roman numerals It was beautiful and since selling it I have regreted doing so. Was this a rare piece? I have never seen another one advertised or found any reference to shantung dials in any catalogues.
Knoffie

[slcbbrown]

Shantung doesn't ring a bell, with me. What's that look like?

[MonBK]

Are you perhaps referring to a Linen dial?

[knoffie]

here's a photo
I have searched and searched no luck. It definitely is not a white dial .
Any info would be appreciated.

[TSW]

Looks like a white roman to me.

[MonBK]

[QUOTE=knoffie;2776584]here's a photo
I have searched and searched no luck. It definitely is not a white dial .Any info would be appreciated.
QUOTE]

Sure it is.

[TSW]

These were the only dials available for your model.

[knoffie]

I have done a bit more checking and it seems that the shantung dial was available in white or champagne but both only with roman numerals. So perhaps you are right TSW in that it appears it must be either the 13/ 16008-91 or the 13/ 16008- P19
was it an unusual dial?
Knoffie

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by knoffie

I have done a bit more checking and it seems that the shantung dial was available in white or champagne but both only with roman numerals. So perhaps you are right TSW in that it appears it must be either the 13/ 16008-91 or the 13/ 16008- P19
was it an unusual dial?
Knoffie

No

[TSW]

Originally Posted by knoffie

I have done a bit more checking and it seems that the shantung dial was available in white or champagne but both only with roman numerals. So perhaps you are right TSW in that it appears it must be either the 13/ 16008-91 or the 13/ 16008- P19
was it an unusual dial?
Knoffie

No not all, 13/ 16008- P19 MOP with YG Romans and the 13/ 16008-91 is a plain white with YG Romans.

Looking at your pic i would say it is the white YG Romans

[knoffie]

Ok I wonder if any one can tell me what a "shantung" dial actually is? Is it any different from a "white " dial. I cant find any reference to it anywhere except in
John E. Brozek's book The Rolex report. On page 162 under "standard dials" there is mention of a Champagne Roman shantung( # 23)
and White roman shantung ( 53) What I need to know is this: is there any difference from a "white Roman dial" and a "White Roman shantung dial?"
I would like to try and buy one if I could.
Knoffie

[kyle L]

I'm still not sure... Are you talking about a pyramid dial?

[ericdube]

Well the definition of shantung is:

shan·tung (shn-tng) n.
1. A heavy fabric with a rough nubby surface, made of spun wild silk.
2. A rayon or cotton fabric that is imitative of this silk fabric.

Based on that definition, my guess would be that it's probably some sort of textured dial.

[kyle L]

Originally Posted by ericdube

Well the definition of shantung is:

shan·tung (shn-tng) n.
1. A heavy fabric with a rough nubby surface, made of spun wild silk.
2. A rayon or cotton fabric that is imitative of this silk fabric.

My guess is that it's probably a textured dial of some sort.

That would probably be a linen dial or a tapestry dial, but that's not what I see in the picture.

[ericdube]

I found a picture of a Tudor with what they refer to as a "shantung" dial:



It definitely seems like there should be a pattern in the dial, otherwise without a pattern it would seem odd that they would reference it as a "shantung" dial.

[knoffie]

I am gong to ask Rolex direct. When my watch came back from service it was marked

"White shantung dial" I cant recall any etchings or designs on it as per the pyramid or linen designs. Strange....
Knoffie