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TB72 · 14 October 2011, 07:01 PM

I'm currently considering buying a Planet Ocean. In the UK the retail price for the 2500 is currently £2800. The retail price for the 8500 is £3800.

While I generally prefer the look of the 8500 I'm just not entirely convinced (yet) on the more grey like colour of the ceramic bezel on the 8500.

I'm assuming I would get little or no discount on the 8500 but would be confident I'd able to to negotiate something off the 2500, so the price difference between the two models could be in excess of £1000.

Does anyone have any experience of both models? Is the new model really worth the extra £?

Also, having never owned an Omega before I would not be used to a bracelet that does not have a micro adjustment. I appreciate the PO has a half link for sizing but I'm assuming it does not give the same degree of adjustment as a Rolex clasp for example. How easy is it to get a comfortable fit with the PO bracelet?

barstoolman · 15 October 2011, 01:12 AM

I just picked up the 2200.53.00 which is the Planet Ocean XL with "Shark Cage" (mesh) bracelet, caliber 2500 and love it. I appreciate and understand all the upgrades in the new model however, for the price difference it just didn't make sense to me.

I bought my watch for $2,750 from an Omega AD. Had I gone for the newer model with caliber 8500, there would have been no discount and I would have paid around $6,000........enough said!!!!!

Shel · 15 October 2011, 05:36 AM

I purchased the PO XL back in February, and got it for $2,680 with bracelet.

I've tried on the new model, and it is a beauty. I love the display back, two color lume, and I'd assume that the 8500 movement is probably better then the 2500.

With that said, I highly doubt that anyone but a WIS would ever notice if you're wearing a new or older model PO.

I prefer the hands and hour markers on the older style. Also, the newer one is slightly thicker, and it's already a pretty large size watch!

I don't think you'll be disappointed with either one, but there IS a dramatic difference in price between the two.

It's a great watch, in either version.

gooter · 15 October 2011, 05:45 AM

I cant comment on which one is better for you, but I can comment on the bracelet sizing. I have come very close to purchasing a PO several times, but I can never get the bracelet to fit comfortably with the half-link adjustment. I know many people never have a problem, but I can never get it to fit just right. It's the one reason I don't have a PO.

LeadFarmer · 16 October 2011, 05:07 AM

Ive just purchased the 2200.50.00 as I prefered the look of it over the 8500. I didnt like the greyish bezel on the 8500, and it feels 50% thicker which made me worry would catch it of door frames etc.

I got mine discounted from £2800 to £2400, but I knew the sales lady. Perhaps I would have got thet discount anyway?

I much prefer the looks of the 2200.50, the black face & bezel make it a winner.

TB72 · 18 October 2011, 03:22 AM

Guys, appreciate all your inputs. Guess I've got some more

to do.

Cheers.

Alessi156 · 19 October 2011, 04:17 AM

I will offer the alternate view.

I recently bought a 8500 and have not doubted for one moment that it was the right choice. Yes, the 2500 is significantly cheaper and is very good value. But to be honest, I think the 8500 has significant improvements over the 2500. I personally think the movement on its own is worth the extra. It really is a nice looking movement. There is then the improved overall finish of the case and the ceramic bezel. Not to mention the lovely dial.

If you can afford the extra £1,000 odd pounds I would suggest you go to an AD that has both and make a direct comparison yourself.

dsio · 19 October 2011, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alessi156

I will offer the alternate view.

I recently bought a 8500 and have not doubted for one moment that it was the right choice. Yes, the 2500 is significantly cheaper and is very good value. But to be honest, I think the 8500 has significant improvements over the 2500. I personally think the movement on its own is worth the extra. It really is a nice looking movement. There is then the improved overall finish of the case and the ceramic bezel. Not to mention the lovely dial.

If you can afford the extra £1,000 odd pounds I would suggest you go to an AD that has both and make a direct comparison yourself.

+1 I'd take the 8500 any day.

btrizzy · 19 October 2011, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barstoolman

I just picked up the 2200.53.00 which is the Planet Ocean XL with "Shark Cage" (mesh) bracelet, caliber 2500 and love it. I appreciate and understand all the upgrades in the new model however, for the price difference it just didn't make sense to me.

I bought my watch for $2,750 from an Omega AD. Had I gone for the newer model with caliber 8500, there would have been no discount and I would have paid around $6,000........enough said!!!!!

Was this new from an AD?

zeuloa · 21 October 2011, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alessi156

I will offer the alternate view.

I recently bought a 8500 and have not doubted for one moment that it was the right choice. Yes, the 2500 is significantly cheaper and is very good value. But to be honest, I think the 8500 has significant improvements over the 2500. I personally think the movement on its own is worth the extra. It really is a nice looking movement. There is then the improved overall finish of the case and the ceramic bezel. Not to mention the lovely dial.

If you can afford the extra £1,000 odd pounds I would suggest you go to an AD that has both and make a direct comparison yourself.

Any pics?

WyoWatch · 21 October 2011, 07:15 AM

I do not have experience with the 8500 PO. I did however own a 2500 PO at one time. If I had to choose between the two, it would be the 8500 without ANY hesitation (even with the higher price tag). Just my opinion though...

GEO_79 · 21 October 2011, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio

+1 I'd take the 8500 any day.

+1

Docar · 21 October 2011, 10:47 AM

Love my XL P.O. 2500.
Can't come up with any reason to part with it.

jmsrolls · 22 October 2011, 12:21 AM

I've owned seven 2500 movements and never experienced any problems whatsoever. Admittedly the 8500 is more advanced horologically but the 2500 in my PO LM LE is just as accurate, if not more so, than any of the three 8500 movements I have owned.

The new POs do not tempt me in the least due to increased thickness and weight of the case. The older models are much more comfortable for me.

I will be keeping my 2500 PO LM LE.

Fr. John†

barstoolman · 22 October 2011, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btrizzy

Was this new from an AD?

Sure was but in fairness, he's a personal friend so obviously, I got a hefty discount...

SynMike · 22 October 2011, 02:53 AM

I bought a 2201.50.00 (42mm 2500 model) a couple months ago so I have some experience with that. I have tried the new models at the Omega Boutique but that is the extent of my experience with the 8500.

The new model looks great, but it is a more sporty look. The older models are a bit more of a dressy diver style. I prefer that dressier look of the older 3-hand models. On the other hand, I prefer the style of the new chrono over the old chrono. Of course it is easy to recognize that the 8500 movement is superior. But when I saw the design of the new models it confirmed for me that I wanted the older series. Then I got a 2nd hand older model for 1/3 of the price of buying the new model.

I did not have a problem with bracelet fit. A half link does the job for me. But in my opinion Omega should offer an alternative clasp with micro-adjustment even if it means taking away the extension. How people use the extension? Very few.

TB72 · 22 October 2011, 05:56 AM

Finally tried on the 8500. I know some people have said it's quite thick but I can't say I found that an issue. Very comfortable watch to wear. The display case is also a touch of class. I think I'm leaning towards the 8500.

Again, big thanks to everyone for all your inputs and thoughts, including Chris on the Ask the Insider Thread. Much appreciated.

InTime · 17 December 2011, 04:58 PM

can we get an update pls

asadtiger · 18 December 2011, 08:25 PM

IF I could afford it easily, 8500 all the way (Ti LM non-chrono)
BUT, the LE LM is NOT something to discount out-rightly...it is one of the most beautiful things I have seen...so I will sure go for that if I were to go for any PO and money was a consideration...the older PO is nothing short of phenomenal too...one thing is for sure: anyone who says either 8500 or 2500 doies atleast consent to the fact that PO is lovely in any iteration so you are not a loser anyway whichever way you go

Dob · 19 December 2011, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeuloa

Any pics?

This is the 42mm on 7" wrist.

fc3s2k · 19 December 2011, 03:18 AM

I got a 42mm PO 2500 from DavidSW and he added a oem rubber strap and love that I can change from bracelet to strap in 5 mins. (with practice ofcourse). Very comfortable watch.
Would definitely recomend

jvi · 19 December 2011, 03:41 AM

where is the best place to buy a 2220 50 or 2201 50 on the net ? the ARs are high in my city (Calgary/ Canada)

InTime · 19 December 2011, 06:24 AM

more i see the 8500, less i like it. sorry. it sits way too high for me.

WJGESQ · 19 December 2011, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barstoolman

I just picked up the 2200.53.00 which is the Planet Ocean XL with "Shark Cage" (mesh) bracelet, caliber 2500 and love it. I appreciate and understand all the upgrades in the new model however, for the price difference it just didn't make sense to me.

I bought my watch for $2,750 from an Omega AD. Had I gone for the newer model with caliber 8500, there would have been no discount and I would have paid around $6,000........enough said!!!!!

Bingo.

The original PO is a fine watch and that charcoal bezel on the new one would be a deal breaker for me.

TuonoRider · 21 December 2011, 09:16 AM

Anyone buy the orange bezel PO2500 or 8500 yet? I think my local AD (just over an hour away) has both in stock, but I haven't had chance to get there to see them...

Any pics would be great.

Right now, I'm personally leaning towards the 8500 simply for the display caseback...I know, sounds silly. As for the mechanics of the movement, I think the 8500 upgrades are going to prove themselves, but the 2500 already has....what a coin-tosser...

dsio · 21 December 2011, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuonoRider

Anyone buy the orange bezel PO2500 or 8500 yet? I think my local AD (just over an hour away) has both in stock, but I haven't had chance to get there to see them...

Any pics would be great.

Right now, I'm personally leaning towards the 8500 simply for the display caseback...I know, sounds silly. As for the mechanics of the movement, I think the 8500 upgrades are going to prove themselves, but the 2500 already has....what a coin-tosser...

8500 has been out since '07 or so now, and really, genuinely, is one of the finest pieces of engineering to come out of Omega since the Cal 5xx series of the 50s and 60s. There have been reports of exceptional positional accuracy the power reserve is superb, and it has been a trouble-free movement. I'd go for it.

TuonoRider · 21 December 2011, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio

8500 has been out since '07 or so now, and really, genuinely, is one of the finest pieces of engineering to come out of Omega since the Cal 5xx series of the 50s and 60s. There have been reports of exceptional positional accuracy the power reserve is superb, and it has been a trouble-free movement. I'd go for it.

Holy heck - well, color me embarassed. I've admitted to being a Noob, so I'll continue to plead "noob".

Has the PO been out that long in the 8500? I thought the movement was new...oops.

dsio · 21 December 2011, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuonoRider

Holy heck - well, color me embarassed. I've admitted to being a Noob, so I'll continue to plead "noob".

Has the PO been out that long in the 8500? I thought the movement was new...oops.

Ah no, the PO only just got it. The 8500 came out in the Hour Vision, which is a sort of dress watch halo product that Omega makes with an entirely sapphire case (sides and back are all machined sapphire so you can see the movement from all angles) as a competitor to the Datejust and Day-Date.

The 8500 was then added to Omega's diver halo product, the Ploprof in 2009, and a handful of other applications along the way. 2011 marks its first inclusion in the Planet Ocean line. That said, its the same movement from 2007, and the Hour Vision and Ploprof guys have been loving them.

TuonoRider · 21 December 2011, 02:00 PM

I see...thanks for the info!

Always something new to learn, right?

The other night, I just was looking at the DeVille you have above - incredible - would love to see one in person. Too bling for my personal taste, but the design of the case and the work that goes into creating it is incredible.

kmleffler · 21 December 2011, 09:46 PM

The PO with the 8500 movement comes with or without the ceramic bezel and in either 42mm or 45.5mm. Without the ceramic bezel the MSRP is $4,500 and with the ceramic bezel it is $6,200 with the SS bracelet. There is no difference in price based upon the size. These prices are directly from the Omega boutique in NYC.

14 October 2011, 07:01 PM	#1
TB72 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 55	P.O. 2500 v P.O. 8500 I'm currently considering buying a Planet Ocean. In the UK the retail price for the 2500 is currently £2800. The retail price for the 8500 is £3800. While I generally prefer the look of the 8500 I'm just not entirely convinced (yet) on the more grey like colour of the ceramic bezel on the 8500. I'm assuming I would get little or no discount on the 8500 but would be confident I'd able to to negotiate something off the 2500, so the price difference between the two models could be in excess of £1000. Does anyone have any experience of both models? Is the new model really worth the extra £? Also, having never owned an Omega before I would not be used to a bracelet that does not have a micro adjustment. I appreciate the PO has a half link for sizing but I'm assuming it does not give the same degree of adjustment as a Rolex clasp for example. How easy is it to get a comfortable fit with the PO bracelet?

19 December 2011, 03:18 AM	#21
fc3s2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Barry Location: california Watch: OFFICINE PANERAI Posts: 1,289	I got a 42mm PO 2500 from DavidSW and he added a oem rubber strap and love that I can change from bracelet to strap in 5 mins. (with practice ofcourse). Very comfortable watch. Would definitely recomend __________________

15 October 2011, 05:36 AM	#3
Shel Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 23	I purchased the PO XL back in February, and got it for $2,680 with bracelet. I've tried on the new model, and it is a beauty. I love the display back, two color lume, and I'd assume that the 8500 movement is probably better then the 2500. With that said, I highly doubt that anyone but a WIS would ever notice if you're wearing a new or older model PO. I prefer the hands and hour markers on the older style. Also, the newer one is slightly thicker, and it's already a pretty large size watch! I don't think you'll be disappointed with either one, but there IS a dramatic difference in price between the two. It's a great watch, in either version.

15 October 2011, 05:45 AM	#4
gooter "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 157	I cant comment on which one is better for you, but I can comment on the bracelet sizing. I have come very close to purchasing a PO several times, but I can never get the bracelet to fit comfortably with the half-link adjustment. I know many people never have a problem, but I can never get it to fit just right. It's the one reason I don't have a PO.

16 October 2011, 05:07 AM	#5
LeadFarmer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: S.Yorkshire UK Watch: Explorer 2 Posts: 32	Ive just purchased the 2200.50.00 as I prefered the look of it over the 8500. I didnt like the greyish bezel on the 8500, and it feels 50% thicker which made me worry would catch it of door frames etc. I got mine discounted from £2800 to £2400, but I knew the sales lady. Perhaps I would have got thet discount anyway? I much prefer the looks of the 2200.50, the black face & bezel make it a winner.

18 October 2011, 03:22 AM	#6
TB72 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 55	Guys, appreciate all your inputs. Guess I've got some more to do. Cheers.

19 October 2011, 04:17 AM	#7
Alessi156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Los/Lon Posts: 116	I will offer the alternate view. I recently bought a 8500 and have not doubted for one moment that it was the right choice. Yes, the 2500 is significantly cheaper and is very good value. But to be honest, I think the 8500 has significant improvements over the 2500. I personally think the movement on its own is worth the extra. It really is a nice looking movement. There is then the improved overall finish of the case and the ceramic bezel. Not to mention the lovely dial. If you can afford the extra £1,000 odd pounds I would suggest you go to an AD that has both and make a direct comparison yourself.

21 October 2011, 07:15 AM	#11
WyoWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Chad Location: USA Watch: 1675 GMT and Sub C Posts: 1,443	I do not have experience with the 8500 PO. I did however own a 2500 PO at one time. If I had to choose between the two, it would be the 8500 without ANY hesitation (even with the higher price tag). Just my opinion though...

21 October 2011, 10:47 AM	#13
Docar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 157	Love my XL P.O. 2500. Can't come up with any reason to part with it.

22 October 2011, 12:21 AM	#14
jmsrolls Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,185	I've owned seven 2500 movements and never experienced any problems whatsoever. Admittedly the 8500 is more advanced horologically but the 2500 in my PO LM LE is just as accurate, if not more so, than any of the three 8500 movements I have owned. The new POs do not tempt me in the least due to increased thickness and weight of the case. The older models are much more comfortable for me. I will be keeping my 2500 PO LM LE. Fr. John†

22 October 2011, 02:53 AM	#16
SynMike Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 72	I bought a 2201.50.00 (42mm 2500 model) a couple months ago so I have some experience with that. I have tried the new models at the Omega Boutique but that is the extent of my experience with the 8500. The new model looks great, but it is a more sporty look. The older models are a bit more of a dressy diver style. I prefer that dressier look of the older 3-hand models. On the other hand, I prefer the style of the new chrono over the old chrono. Of course it is easy to recognize that the 8500 movement is superior. But when I saw the design of the new models it confirmed for me that I wanted the older series. Then I got a 2nd hand older model for 1/3 of the price of buying the new model. I did not have a problem with bracelet fit. A half link does the job for me. But in my opinion Omega should offer an alternative clasp with micro-adjustment even if it means taking away the extension. How people use the extension? Very few.

22 October 2011, 05:56 AM	#17
TB72 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 55	Finally tried on the 8500. I know some people have said it's quite thick but I can't say I found that an issue. Very comfortable watch to wear. The display case is also a touch of class. I think I'm leaning towards the 8500. Again, big thanks to everyone for all your inputs and thoughts, including Chris on the Ask the Insider Thread. Much appreciated.

17 December 2011, 04:58 PM	#18
InTime Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: BermudaAntarctica Posts: 892	can we get an update pls

18 December 2011, 08:25 PM	#19
asadtiger "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Asad A. Awan Location: kabul, Afghanista Watch: Tissot PRX Posts: 2,698	IF I could afford it easily, 8500 all the way (Ti LM non-chrono) BUT, the LE LM is NOT something to discount out-rightly...it is one of the most beautiful things I have seen...so I will sure go for that if I were to go for any PO and money was a consideration...the older PO is nothing short of phenomenal too...one thing is for sure: anyone who says either 8500 or 2500 doies atleast consent to the fact that PO is lovely in any iteration so you are not a loser anyway whichever way you go

19 December 2011, 03:41 AM	#22
jvi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Jean Location: calgary Posts: 1	where is the best place to buy a 2220 50 or 2201 50 on the net ? the ARs are high in my city (Calgary/ Canada)

19 December 2011, 06:24 AM	#23
InTime Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: BermudaAntarctica Posts: 892	more i see the 8500, less i like it. sorry. it sits way too high for me.

21 December 2011, 09:16 AM	#25
TuonoRider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: John Location: Lancaster Co., PA Watch: Omega Speedmaster Posts: 268	Anyone buy the orange bezel PO2500 or 8500 yet? I think my local AD (just over an hour away) has both in stock, but I haven't had chance to get there to see them... Any pics would be great. Right now, I'm personally leaning towards the 8500 simply for the display caseback...I know, sounds silly. As for the mechanics of the movement, I think the 8500 upgrades are going to prove themselves, but the 2500 already has....what a coin-tosser...

21 December 2011, 02:00 PM	#29
TuonoRider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: John Location: Lancaster Co., PA Watch: Omega Speedmaster Posts: 268	I see...thanks for the info! Always something new to learn, right? The other night, I just was looking at the DeVille you have above - incredible - would love to see one in person. Too bling for my personal taste, but the design of the case and the work that goes into creating it is incredible.

21 December 2011, 09:46 PM	#30
kmleffler "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ken Location: New York, NY Watch: GS SD GMT Posts: 389	The PO with the 8500 movement comes with or without the ceramic bezel and in either 42mm or 45.5mm. Without the ceramic bezel the MSRP is $4,500 and with the ceramic bezel it is $6,200 with the SS bracelet. There is no difference in price based upon the size. These prices are directly from the Omega boutique in NYC.

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