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eelpie · 4 November 2011, 03:47 PM

Is the 16753 a GMT Master or a GMT Master II?

Does the 'II' designation always indicate an independent GMT hand?

Thank you . . .

dddrees · 4 November 2011, 08:13 PM

Based on what I have found at:

http://gmtmasterhistory.com/index.html

It appears that the 16753 is a GMT Master. It also appears that the 16760 is the first to be designated as a GMT Master II and this is also when the Caliber 3085 was first used. With the new caliber 3085 the 24-hour hand became Independently adjustable. Yes it does appear as the GMT II means the 24 hour hand can be adjusted independently.

TTmax · 4 November 2011, 08:53 PM

All 6542 , 1675/x , 1675x , 1670x are GMT master

All 1676x , 1671x , 11671x are GMT Master 2 with independant hour hand.

The "x" digit designate only in which metal the watch is build : 3 is for rolesor steel/YG , 8 is for YG , 9 is for WG (no GMT in WG) , 5 is for RG (no GMT in RG) , ....

eelpie · 4 November 2011, 09:18 PM

It is two-tone with a non-adjustable 24 hour hand, as confirmed by the seller.

According to the responses here, and to the research I've done, this watch should have a GMT-Master dial, without the II.

And yet the seller indicates the watch is all original . . .

HERITAGE82 · 5 November 2011, 01:08 AM

Great information guys!

Like To Watch · 5 November 2011, 01:15 AM

Good to know.

4 November 2011, 03:47 PM	#1
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dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Based on what I have found at: http://gmtmasterhistory.com/index.html It appears that the 16753 is a GMT Master. It also appears that the 16760 is the first to be designated as a GMT Master II and this is also when the Caliber 3085 was first used. With the new caliber 3085 the 24-hour hand became Independently adjustable. Yes it does appear as the GMT II means the 24 hour hand can be adjusted independently. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

4 November 2011, 09:18 PM	#4
eelpie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Watch: 15223, 6305/2 Posts: 583	I have been offered a Rolex 16753 with 'GMT Master II' on the dial. It is two-tone with a non-adjustable 24 hour hand, as confirmed by the seller. According to the responses here, and to the research I've done, this watch should have a GMT-Master dial, without the II. And yet the seller indicates the watch is all original . . .

4 November 2011, 08:53 PM	#3
TTmax Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Christophe Location: France Watch: DJ/Gmt2/IIc/E2/ToG Posts: 434	All 6542 , 1675/x , 1675x , 1670x are GMT master All 1676x , 1671x , 11671x are GMT Master 2 with independant hour hand. The "x" digit designate only in which metal the watch is build : 3 is for rolesor steel/YG , 8 is for YG , 9 is for WG (no GMT in WG) , 5 is for RG (no GMT in RG) , ....

5 November 2011, 01:08 AM	#5
HERITAGE82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,435	Great information guys!

5 November 2011, 01:15 AM	#6
Like To Watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,196	Good to know.

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