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Old 20 December 2011, 02:55 PM   #1
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Is Rolex pulling a "SS Daytona" with the EXP II?

Just got back from my AD, (Ben Bridge), they said they had only seen ONE (1) EXP II so far, and that they are getting requests and even have a waiting list reminiscent of the old: Can't get the SS Daytona-paying over MSRP debacle of a few years ago.

Is this true? Has anyone seen them sitting in display cases? Do you think Rolex would (try to) do this to this model too?
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Old 20 December 2011, 02:58 PM   #2
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The AD in Foxwoods had 1 sitting in the case last week.
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Old 20 December 2011, 02:58 PM   #3
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Just got back from my AD, (Ben Bridge), they said they had only seen ONE (1) EXP II so far, and that they are getting requests and even have a waiting list reminiscent of the old: Can't get the SS Daytona-paying over MSRP debacle of a few years ago.

Is this true? Has anyone seen them sitting in display cases? Do you think Rolex would (try to) do this to this model too?
Hum... Have not made it here to Wisconsin however was in Florida last week and an AD in Naples and both white and black in their case and another AD in Sanibel Island also had them... No shortage or waiting list that I am aware of
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:01 PM   #4
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There are none in NYC AD's at the moment... Was at William Bartham this weekend and spoke to Steven who mentioned that allocation of both dials are scarce (at least for now)...
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:15 PM   #5
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If it becomes scarce then the pre-owned value could rise.
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:16 PM   #6
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The AD in Walnut Creek, Ca. has them in the case, white & black dial.
The ex2 is still a cult watch, maybe your AD didn't bring a lot in.
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:24 PM   #7
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I went into the AD as well tonight and asked about the new Exp IIs. The sales woman told me they were kept in the back, and pulled out a white one for me to try on. I wasn't really feeling it and asked to see a SS Daytona, which she then stated that they don't keep in the cases, as once they arrive, they are immediately sold to the next person on the waiting list. Interesting!!
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:26 PM   #8
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I went into the AD as well tonight and asked about the new Exp IIs. The sales woman told me they were kept in the back, and pulled out a white one for me to try on. I wasn't really feeling it and asked to see a SS Daytona, which she then stated that they don't keep in the cases, as once they arrive, they are immediately sold to the next person on the waiting list. Interesting!!
Very! I wonder what the heck will be going on? You got to admit, it was a succesful strategy for Rolex with the SS Daytona...
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:53 PM   #9
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Not as far as in HK. Seen them on AD and also currently being offered a li'l discount at the gray market. Unlike the daytona where you have to pull a lot of strings just to be put on the real waiting list.
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:56 PM   #10
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Im in Taiwan at the moment, and the new ex ii is in almost every AD
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Old 20 December 2011, 03:58 PM   #11
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Philly area AD's have them and they're not moving very well either. They're already all over the secondary market at discounts. They're no big deal.
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Old 20 December 2011, 04:01 PM   #12
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Lots of Expys IIs around.

No disrespect to the folks who love 'em...but this watch is not setting the world on fire.
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Old 20 December 2011, 04:01 PM   #13
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Philly area AD's have them and they're not moving very well either. They're already all over the secondary market at discounts. They're no big deal.
Same story down here.
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Old 20 December 2011, 04:09 PM   #14
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I haven't seen one in ABQ.
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Old 20 December 2011, 04:14 PM   #15
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AD In Stockton, CA (DeVon's) had one in White and Black for the last 2 weeks or so

I know this is somewhat off topic but they also just got a All gold with black face/bezel Sub in.. i fell in love.. :)
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Old 20 December 2011, 04:46 PM   #16
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No, I visited four AD's (within the past month) around Los Angeles when I was buying my GMT-IIc, ALL of them had at least one Explorer II.
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Old 20 December 2011, 08:05 PM   #17
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Nah, me thinks the AD was pulling your legs...

I have seen both colours at more than one ADs here in London.
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Old 20 December 2011, 08:24 PM   #18
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Paul, can't comment here in Aus as the AD generally tear the out of the price. Seem's to be a reasonable selection and steady flow of 116570's here in the TRF sale section.

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Old 20 December 2011, 08:27 PM   #19
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They are widely available...

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Just got back from my AD, (Ben Bridge), they said they had only seen ONE (1) EXP II so far, and that they are getting requests and even have a waiting list reminiscent of the old: Can't get the SS Daytona-paying over MSRP debacle of a few years ago.

Is this true? Has anyone seen them sitting in display cases? Do you think Rolex would (try to) do this to this model too?
and the prices in the secondary market have dropped significantly and appear to still be doing so. A Daytona this watch is not.
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Old 20 December 2011, 09:02 PM   #20
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A friend of mine stopped in the local AD over the weekend. He was offered 10% off on an EXP 42. He also said the same white dial Daytona has been there at least four months, just sitting in the case

I never understood the hype behind the modern Daytona
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Old 20 December 2011, 09:06 PM   #21
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If it becomes scarce then the pre-owned value could rise.
If is a very small word with so many meanings,and why has any Rolex watch got to be all about value.IMHO its sad today the many just see Rolex watches as $$$$££££,instead of owning and wearing one of the finest watches made today.
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Lots of Expys IIs around.

No disrespect to the folks who love 'em...but this watch is not setting the world on fire.
Have to agree the Explorer in general ever since its introduction decades ago have not been the fastest sellers in the Rolex range. And would doubt if it will change with the Retro modern version.
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Old 20 December 2011, 09:18 PM   #22
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Just got back from my AD, (Ben Bridge), they said they had only seen ONE (1) EXP II so far, and that they are getting requests and even have a waiting list reminiscent of the old: Can't get the SS Daytona-paying over MSRP debacle of a few years ago.

Is this true? Has anyone seen them sitting in display cases? Do you think Rolex would (try to) do this to this model too?
There is a polar sitting at my AD here, unless some has bought it in the last couple of days. They seem fairly scarce, but nothing like the daytona or milgauss was.
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Old 20 December 2011, 09:25 PM   #23
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I went to three AD's last week, just outside of manhattan and all three had black and white in the showcase. Definitely no Daytona story here.
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Old 20 December 2011, 09:28 PM   #24
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Both colours in AD's display cases in NE England.. Being displayed alongside the 16570's too.. Great for immediate comparison :D
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Old 20 December 2011, 09:32 PM   #25
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I saw two at an AD and was let to believe that they had a third in the back.
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Old 20 December 2011, 10:03 PM   #26
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We've had no problem with our supply of 216570s
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Old 20 December 2011, 10:47 PM   #27
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Seen both color at the AD here, no problem with supply here
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Old 20 December 2011, 10:49 PM   #28
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I have seen TWO sitting in display cases in the past moth.....No need to pay over retail as far as I can see??? And some great bargains as well in the for sale section of a number of forums....
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Old 20 December 2011, 11:12 PM   #29
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Seen the white dial in Kinston Upon Thames. Very nice too!
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Old 20 December 2011, 11:15 PM   #30
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Not as far as in HK. Seen them on AD and also currently being offered a li'l discount at the gray market. Unlike the daytona where you have to pull a lot of strings just to be put on the real waiting list.
Ditto in Singapore. Already selling for below MRSP in the gray market...
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