Question for Montblanc Experts

[mcneguy]

I have an opportunity to purchase a Meisterstruck Ceramics Black Prisma pen, Style number 103107. The pics the seller is sending me are of an all black pen however when I look up that number, every picture is of a pen with a platinum barrel.

The ceramic pen I tried at a MB store had a black barrel as well. Were these pens available in both materials or could this be a fake?

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[2careless]

Bottom line is that if that style number is available in Montblanc website and you can't reconcile the pen on offer to the one at MB site, stay away.

[onions]

The MB website is frequently updated and older 'non current' styles are often dropped... Therefore their site is terrific if you are buying current stock but not so if you are buying discontinued items...

The item not being on the MB site doesn't therefore automatically equate to a fake item. I would suggest doing a search through google and see what other items come up. You could also contact an accredited dealer to make sure.

Good luck, nice pen!

[2careless]

Well, the OP asked for Ceramic Black Prisma, which is definitely a current item.
However, it looks like MB's website is currently down (main page is ok, but got 404 error deeper). Suffix to say that dealers such as FPH would have it stocked.
If the OP had tried the same style pen at the boutique that is all black then better check with the boutique about it.

My 2010 MB price list said "103107 - 23780 RB SOL Ceramic Black Prisma"

[mcneguy]

I wound up buying it for $200. If it is real then I just bought a $1000 pen for $200, if it is fake, I used my credit card so I guess I'm ok either way.

I do appreciate the help.

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[2careless]

Hmmm, good luck then. $200 for a $1k pen seems too good to be true, but what do I know?

[mcneguy]

One of the details I forgot to mention was that the pen is monogrammed so that detracted alot of buyers.

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[bungcarlo]

crossing my fingers for you, sir! good luck and hoping for a positive outcome!

[mcneguy]

Here is the EBay auction..tell me what you think.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170755997726...84.m1423.l2649

[saw]

Originally Posted by mcneguy

Here is the EBay auction..tell me what you think.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170755997726...84.m1423.l2649

There is no engraving for fake products, so it might just be someone looking for quick sale.

[2careless]

Very interesting. Are you expecting a rollerball pen?
If you are I believe you'll be disappointed. Unless I don't know my Montblancs, rollerballs have 2-piece design, i.e. caps and pen separated. In this case, the pen shown in the pictures look like a one-piece ballpen, because in the first picture it does not look like the pen has been posted, and the shape/length fits more of a ballpen.

I think the pen that you have bought may be a 161 ballpen in Rhodium trim (and that's the best case, you may actually get a classic which is much cheaper). This is no Ceramic Prisma rollerball I'm afraid. I wouldn't pay > $150 for it second hand, especially with an engraving.

Last, none of the pictures showed the Montblanc snow cap. Seriously I wouldn't have bidded on it.

[mcneguy]

Actually there is a ceramic prisma rollerball. I tried one at a Mont Blanc boutique here (Orlando) but it is all black like the pen pictured. The style number he shows in his auction is for a platinum barrell pen with the ceramic black top. I did not notice the one piece design which surprises me as I own a Mont Blanc rollerball and should have seen that. I did use a credit card and I have EBay protection so I'm not worried, if it isn't what he said it was I will get my money back. The buyer maintains that it was given to him from his company for some kind of award and that style number did come up under Montblanc's "corporate gift" section but again in platinum. I am very interested now in what it actually is. When I get it I will take it in to a Montblanc dealer near me and find out what it actually is and give an update.

[cajunron]

I would put a hold on my CC until the seller posts clearer pics and states exactly what model and type of pen he is selling.

[Lion]

Good luck with your purchase and hope everything works out to your satisfaction!!!

[onions]

I would also be asking for close up photos of the top gold ring to ensure that the lazer etched serial number is intact...

And depending on the age of the pen, whether there is the word "pix" under the clip.

Good luck with that one, sorry but IMHO, it smells a bit,

Regards,

Ian

[onions]

Further, only has feedback as a buyer and doesn't appear to be anything of any significance (golf balls and stuff) and then only returns feedback twice for 18 purchases...

First item selling then being a Montblanc awarded for salesman of the year of something???!!!

Me thinks something not right here...

[2careless]

Only newer pens have the serial numbers (post 1991 or thereabouts).

[mcneguy]

I get all this and I agree. I actually can't wait to get this thing to see what it really is. I will update everyone once I actually get it, it should be tomorrow or Saturday.

[mcneguy]

Ok, so I got the pen today. It is a ballpoint, not rollerball, not ceramic. It says "Montblanc Meisterstuck" on the band around the middle. it doesn't feel like resin, more like plastic.

Looking at the Montblanc web page, it looks like the Meisterstuck Classique ballpoint pen but I doubt that this is plastic resin although I really have nothing to compare it to.

So, what is it?

[Lion]

Show us some pictures!!!

[2careless]

Unscrew the pen and see if you get any brass elements around the screws. Fakes are usually very flimpsy on this.
Show some photos as Leo said.

[mcneguy]

I will take some pictures but this one looks exactly like it..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Montblanc-Me...42133162849900

It does have a number on the pen side of the clip, my 51 year old eyes can't make it out, but it is a number. Does that mean anything?

[2careless]

No, doesn't mean a thing. The model has been around for so long that there are so many different permutations of markings on the clip ring, e.g. "GERMANY," W. GERMANY", serial number, or nothing. However, if you see lots of "3" or "8" in the serial number, there is a high chance it's a fake...

[Ticking Away]

Unscrew it and shine a flashlight into the end with the clip. Resin will have a red hue. It is very easy to see if you are in a dark room. If no light comes through then it is most likely plastic.

IMO that is your first step to determine if it is fake.

[mcneguy]

The verdict is in.

It is a Meisterstuck LeGrsnd Classique Model 7569. The paperwork was in the box and I did not see that until the clerk at the Montblanc boutique pulled it out. She verified that the serial numbed matched the paperwork and that it is 100% authentic. It was purchased in January, 2010 in Chicago.

Now, having said that, what should I ask for from the seller because he completely misrepresented the product although I do not think that it was intentional.

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[Lion]

If you like the pen and the price was okay then just chalk the incident to experience learned and enjoy the pen!!!
Beware when buying online.....

[mcneguy]

I do like the pen. We settled on the seller refunding $60 so I wound up paying $140 for it. Even though it us monogrammed I think that's not a bad deal.

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[Bisquitlips]

Photographs are really the only way to tell with any accuracy and macros if possible.

[kev647]

Wow...reading this thread from start to finish was such a roller coaster ride!! Glad it worked out and it wasn't a fake, OP!!