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oyster21 · 21 August 2007, 05:19 AM

Hi all, new member here, I've been a lurker for quite several weeks now. My first post...

I just acquired a GMT II black and red version (Z serial). I own EXP II also. Now, I notice that the GMT II is actually lighter than my EXP II. Eventhough they have the same bracelet.
Also, my GMT bracelet is rattling compared to my EXP.
Is this normal? TIA.

BiG JeEzY · 21 August 2007, 05:40 AM

Welcome to the forum Oyster21! Glad to have you aboard.

The weight in grams of the Explorer II (16570) and older style GMT II (16710) are actually just about the same. The weights are as follows:

1. Explorer II: 126 grams
2. GMT Master II: 127 grams

The Explorer II probably feels heavier to you because it has a solid SS bezel compared to the GMT but technically they are similar in weight and you wouldnt be able to tell which is heavier. They have the same movement and bracelet.

Your bracelet rattling is nothing to worry about. Try holding your watch sideways and up in the air. Do you see the bracelet stick straight out from the case when its sideways out or does it bend downward slightly?

Welcome again, do you have pictures of your watches? We love pictures around here.

oyster21 · 21 August 2007, 06:16 AM

thanks BiG JeEzY!
That's probably is, the solid bezel on EXP II.

Yupe, I did check the bracelet on my GMT by hanging it sideways and it bends down a bit. I might have to go to local AD and have it tightened.

here's some pics I just took :D
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mike · 21 August 2007, 08:38 AM

Lovely pair!!

BiG JeEzY · 21 August 2007, 08:39 AM

Great looking duo you have there!! I have a duo similar to yours as well, Im very happy to say.

We should start a "dual time zone club" here on TRF for people who have both the GMT and Explorer II models.

About your bracelet bending downwards like that, it is completely normal, dont worry about it. An AD will not be able to just tighten it for you. This is because the bracelet is not "getting loose," it is actually "stretching" from normal wear and tear. My suggestion is that if you are wearing your watches so loose on your wrist that they move around like bracelets, then I recommend that you tighten them. The watch should not move all over your wrist as you wear them because that places a lot of stress on the links.

Other then that, you are completely fine. The way Rolex makes the Oyster bracelets nowadays with the SELs, those bracelets will last for decades and decades.

Great looking pics again! Thanks for sharing!

Rubenonfire · 21 August 2007, 08:40 AM

Welcome to the forum, and congrats on two iconic Rollies!

Tools · 21 August 2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Great looking duo you have there!! I have a duo similar to yours as well, Im very happy to say.

We should start a "dual time zone club" here on TRF for people who have both the GMT and Explorer II models.

.......
Great looking pics again! Thanks for sharing!

I'm in:

BiG JeEzY · 21 August 2007, 08:52 AM

Well thats three members so far for the "Dual Timezone Club."

oyster21 · 21 August 2007, 10:31 AM

"Dual Timezone Club" sounds good! haha :D
Thanks guys for the welcome and kind words. This is a great forum! I've learned many things from here.

oyster21 · 21 August 2007, 10:39 AM

"Dual Timezone Club" sounds good! haha :D
Thanks guys for the welcome and kind words!

21 August 2007, 05:19 AM	#1
oyster21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2 continents Posts: 198	GMT II and EXP II - weight? Hi all, new member here, I've been a lurker for quite several weeks now. My first post... I just acquired a GMT II black and red version (Z serial). I own EXP II also. Now, I notice that the GMT II is actually lighter than my EXP II. Eventhough they have the same bracelet. Also, my GMT bracelet is rattling compared to my EXP. Is this normal? TIA.

21 August 2007, 05:40 AM	#2
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	Welcome to the forum Oyster21! Glad to have you aboard. The weight in grams of the Explorer II (16570) and older style GMT II (16710) are actually just about the same. The weights are as follows: 1. Explorer II: 126 grams 2. GMT Master II: 127 grams The Explorer II probably feels heavier to you because it has a solid SS bezel compared to the GMT but technically they are similar in weight and you wouldnt be able to tell which is heavier. They have the same movement and bracelet. Your bracelet rattling is nothing to worry about. Try holding your watch sideways and up in the air. Do you see the bracelet stick straight out from the case when its sideways out or does it bend downward slightly? Welcome again, do you have pictures of your watches? We love pictures around here. __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

21 August 2007, 08:39 AM	#5
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	Great looking duo you have there!! I have a duo similar to yours as well, Im very happy to say. We should start a "dual time zone club" here on TRF for people who have both the GMT and Explorer II models. About your bracelet bending downwards like that, it is completely normal, dont worry about it. An AD will not be able to just tighten it for you. This is because the bracelet is not "getting loose," it is actually "stretching" from normal wear and tear. My suggestion is that if you are wearing your watches so loose on your wrist that they move around like bracelets, then I recommend that you tighten them. The watch should not move all over your wrist as you wear them because that places a lot of stress on the links. Other then that, you are completely fine. The way Rolex makes the Oyster bracelets nowadays with the SELs, those bracelets will last for decades and decades. Great looking pics again! Thanks for sharing! __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

21 August 2007, 08:40 AM	#6
Rubenonfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Ruben Location: Orange County Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,317	Welcome to the forum, and congrats on two iconic Rollies! __________________ Throw your Rollies in the sky, wave 'em side to side, now keep your hands high.

21 August 2007, 08:52 AM	#8
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	Well thats three members so far for the "Dual Timezone Club." __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

21 August 2007, 06:16 AM	#3
oyster21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2 continents Posts: 198	thanks BiG JeEzY! That's probably is, the solid bezel on EXP II. Yupe, I did check the bracelet on my GMT by hanging it sideways and it bends down a bit. I might have to go to local AD and have it tightened. here's some pics I just took :D DSCF0087.jpg DSCF0088.jpg DSCF0089.jpg

21 August 2007, 08:38 AM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Lovely pair!!

21 August 2007, 10:31 AM	#9
oyster21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2 continents Posts: 198	"Dual Timezone Club" sounds good! haha :D Thanks guys for the welcome and kind words. This is a great forum! I've learned many things from here.

21 August 2007, 10:39 AM	#10
oyster21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2 continents Posts: 198	"Dual Timezone Club" sounds good! haha :D Thanks guys for the welcome and kind words!

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