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halim · 20 January 2012, 03:56 PM

Hi, I've just joined the dark side and bought myself a 210n. (thx to Mfer for his pics that a 6.5inch wrist is fine with the 45mm rad. What I don't understand is why a manual wound is more desirable than auto?

Can someone enlighten me pls?

mlotus95 · 20 January 2012, 04:16 PM

i was wondering this myself.

mikelprz · 20 January 2012, 04:28 PM

Good question.. i am also wondering

snog · 20 January 2012, 05:00 PM

Panerai started making watches using pocket watch movements which are manual wind ofc,so a Pam with a manual movement is said to have more Pam DNA.

andrew79 · 20 January 2012, 06:03 PM

history.

Cru Jones · 20 January 2012, 06:53 PM

the knee-jerk reaction is "DNA"/historical "correctness".....

personally, i think it's just a matter of personal preference on a piece-by-piece basis, but, for some, the "history" of the brand is a major draw to panerai and, in that sense, manuals are preferred regardless of whether one might otherwise prefer an auto over a manual.

bcacncnc · 20 January 2012, 08:03 PM

I'm one of those that doesn't mind the manual winding. I guess thats because with the 000, I get at least 56 hours - which is enough time for me to always find a gap in my day to "play" with the winding. I don't find it a chore and actually enjoy it. Might not be so fun if the the power reserve was 40 hours or so and running out of juice before topping it up.

Given the choice though, agree auto's are more practical.

MP5 · 20 January 2012, 08:30 PM

History, Pams are manual winders, the rest are for tourists

walds11 · 20 January 2012, 08:40 PM

History. I prefer autos to manuals for convenience. I had a 112 and couldn't stand winding it every other day. Too much of a chore for me. Fast foward almost 4 years and I have a 233 on my wrist. No chore at all winding the 233 up once a week or so.

halim · 20 January 2012, 09:12 PM

Oh so it's all about history/DNA and not being one superior than the other. Well thx for the info guys!!

dddrees · 20 January 2012, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcacncnc

I'm one of those that doesn't mind the manual winding. I guess thats because with the 000, I get at least 56 hours - which is enough time for me to always find a gap in my day to "play" with the winding. I don't find it a chore and actually enjoy it. Might not be so fun if the the power reserve was 40 hours or so and running out of juice before topping it up.

Given the choice though, agree auto's are more practical.

It's not been a problem for me either, but I'm used to doing this with my autos. I usually wear a different watch daily anyway.

xjeeunitx · 20 January 2012, 11:16 PM

I like winding it...

mfer · 20 January 2012, 11:20 PM

2 things for me.

1. I'm learning that I like manual watches more in general (even outside of Panerai). I like having to power up my watch.

2. A manual movement is thinner. I like larger watches, but don't want a tuna can on my wrist. Thin cases just look a lot better on me for some reason.

teehan · 21 January 2012, 01:15 AM

dear friends,

i recently got myself a 000. this is my first foray into manual timepieces. is it ok to wind the watch before it stops? i usually give it a full winding when it stops. and it will run for about 60 hours.

i was just wondering whether will the mechanism be damaged if i wind it prematurely (before the watch stops)… thank you!

mfer · 21 January 2012, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teehan

dear friends,

i recently got myself a 000. this is my first foray into manual timepieces. is it ok to wind the watch before it stops? i usually give it a full winding when it stops. and it will run for about 60 hours.

i was just wondering whether will the mechanism be damaged if i wind it prematurely (before the watch stops)… thank you!

No, you can wind it everyday if you like.

canwatchco · 21 January 2012, 02:12 AM

Its truly wonderful experience winding a Panerai watch. Great feel. You really get to know your watch. In fact, after a while, you can sense when you are reaching a full wind....

teehan · 21 January 2012, 11:00 AM

thanks mfer for your quick reply. so can i say that once the watch has been fully re-wound, the power reserve will be set to another 60 hrs.

mfer · 21 January 2012, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teehan

thanks mfer for your quick reply. so can i say that once the watch has been fully re-wound, the power reserve will be set to another 60 hrs.

Yup, there is no harm in winding every day, every other, letting it run down to zero.

Wind it 'til it stops and you got 60+ hours of juice.

teehan · 21 January 2012, 11:09 AM

wow. that was fast. thanks mfer!

htc8p · 21 January 2012, 01:26 PM

i still prefer automatics in general but for pams i really want them to be manual wind. its like they have to be "fed" from time to time

paulluat · 5 February 2012, 04:19 AM

manual keeps u alert automatic boring

watchdaddy1 · 5 February 2012, 05:01 AM

Manual= history/DNA. I own 2 base models/manual wind, but I just purchased a 312 auto ,all in-house mvmnt & I gotta say I love BOTH the mvmnts, if I were to have to pick between the 2 I would be hard pressed to make a decision.IMO the new in-house mvmnts = new history

20 January 2012, 03:56 PM	#1
halim "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Indonesia Posts: 80	Why is the Manual Wound more desirable than Auto in Pam? Hi, I've just joined the dark side and bought myself a 210n. (thx to Mfer for his pics that a 6.5inch wrist is fine with the 45mm rad. What I don't understand is why a manual wound is more desirable than auto? Can someone enlighten me pls?

20 January 2012, 06:03 PM	#5
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	history. __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

20 January 2012, 08:03 PM	#7
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	I'm one of those that doesn't mind the manual winding. I guess thats because with the 000, I get at least 56 hours - which is enough time for me to always find a gap in my day to "play" with the winding. I don't find it a chore and actually enjoy it. Might not be so fun if the the power reserve was 40 hours or so and running out of juice before topping it up. Given the choice though, agree auto's are more practical. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

20 January 2012, 08:40 PM	#9
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,658	History. I prefer autos to manuals for convenience. I had a 112 and couldn't stand winding it every other day. Too much of a chore for me. Fast foward almost 4 years and I have a 233 on my wrist. No chore at all winding the 233 up once a week or so. __________________ Adam

20 January 2012, 11:20 PM	#13
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	2 things for me. 1. I'm learning that I like manual watches more in general (even outside of Panerai). I like having to power up my watch. 2. A manual movement is thinner. I like larger watches, but don't want a tuna can on my wrist. Thin cases just look a lot better on me for some reason. __________________ member#3242

20 January 2012, 04:16 PM	#2
mlotus95 Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: pa Watch: GMT master II Posts: 600	i was wondering this myself.

20 January 2012, 04:28 PM	#3
mikelprz Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Batman Posts: 452	Good question.. i am also wondering

20 January 2012, 05:00 PM	#4
snog "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 908	Panerai started making watches using pocket watch movements which are manual wind ofc,so a Pam with a manual movement is said to have more Pam DNA.

20 January 2012, 06:53 PM	#6
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,253	the knee-jerk reaction is "DNA"/historical "correctness"..... personally, i think it's just a matter of personal preference on a piece-by-piece basis, but, for some, the "history" of the brand is a major draw to panerai and, in that sense, manuals are preferred regardless of whether one might otherwise prefer an auto over a manual.

20 January 2012, 08:30 PM	#8
MP5 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 2,886	History, Pams are manual winders, the rest are for tourists

20 January 2012, 09:12 PM	#10
halim "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Indonesia Posts: 80	Oh so it's all about history/DNA and not being one superior than the other. Well thx for the info guys!!

20 January 2012, 11:16 PM	#12
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,462	I like winding it...

21 January 2012, 01:15 AM	#14
teehan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: little red dot Watch: rolexes & g-shocks Posts: 404	manual winding dear friends, i recently got myself a 000. this is my first foray into manual timepieces. is it ok to wind the watch before it stops? i usually give it a full winding when it stops. and it will run for about 60 hours. i was just wondering whether will the mechanism be damaged if i wind it prematurely (before the watch stops)… thank you!

21 January 2012, 02:12 AM	#16
canwatchco "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bobby Location: Montreal Posts: 6,425	Its truly wonderful experience winding a Panerai watch. Great feel. You really get to know your watch. In fact, after a while, you can sense when you are reaching a full wind....

21 January 2012, 11:00 AM	#17
teehan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: little red dot Watch: rolexes & g-shocks Posts: 404	thanks mfer for your quick reply. so can i say that once the watch has been fully *re-wound*, the power reserve will be set to another 60 hrs.

21 January 2012, 11:09 AM	#19
teehan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: little red dot Watch: rolexes & g-shocks Posts: 404	wow. that was fast. thanks mfer!

21 January 2012, 01:26 PM	#20
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,472	i still prefer automatics in general but for pams i really want them to be manual wind. its like they have to be "fed" from time to time

5 February 2012, 04:19 AM	#21
paulluat "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: kuwait Posts: 26	manual keeps u alert automatic boring

5 February 2012, 05:01 AM	#22
watchdaddy1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: William Location: Az Watch: strap whore Posts: 1,194	Manual= history/DNA. I own 2 base models/manual wind, but I just purchased a 312 auto ,all in-house mvmnt & I gotta say I love BOTH the mvmnts, if I were to have to pick between the 2 I would be hard pressed to make a decision.IMO the new in-house mvmnts = new history

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