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San Ramon · 13 March 2012, 11:56 AM

So I'm thinking of buying a Rolex and like to take a look at the movement during the transaction. Keeping in mind that I cannot carry a back case opening tool, what do you guys usually do if you want to take a look inside?

Thanks, San Ramon

joe100 · 13 March 2012, 12:00 PM

Take to an AD

San Ramon · 13 March 2012, 12:07 PM

Are they usually ok with that, do you set up an appointment, how much the typical AD charges,etc?

Thx, San Ramo

joe100 · 13 March 2012, 12:35 PM

Some are, some aren't. Definitely call before and ask.

As always, buy the seller before you buy the watch!

San Ramon · 13 March 2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joe100

Some are, some aren't. Definitely call before and ask.

As always, buy the seller before you buy the watch!

That's for sure, hopefully the seller is cool with the hassle!

Thanks

joe100 · 13 March 2012, 01:28 PM

He should be. I wouldn't mind.

ersnyder · 13 March 2012, 01:29 PM

Call and offer to pay for the technician's time and they'll appreciate your consideration and likely open it for free.

San Ramon · 13 March 2012, 02:04 PM

Thanks guys for your input

Daniel Tan · 13 March 2012, 06:21 PM

How to open deepsea? And how to close it?

padi56 · 13 March 2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Tan

How to open deepsea? And how to close it?

Even on the DSSD the case back is only a lid much like a lid on a jar you buy at the supermarket.As long as you have the correct case back die and tool it would be the same as opening any other Rolex case.But the only problem after is pressure testing to that extreme depth.At the moment only Rolex can do that,but most high street watchmakers could test to 300m.Now if any watch passes a 300m test then it would be safe for scuba and general water activities.And any watchmaker could get the back off any Rolex watch if he/she has the correct tool its not rocket science its just like unscrewing a jam pot lid.

sierra11b · 13 March 2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by San Ramon

That's for sure, hopefully the seller is cool with the hassle!

Thanks

Walk away if the seller isn't... Plenty of great sellers here.

dddrees · 13 March 2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joe100

take to an ad

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DJJon · 13 March 2012, 11:42 PM

x3

kilyung · 14 March 2012, 01:32 AM

As a seller, I'd only be ok AFTER it was purchased. If something is wrong, I'd refund but I would not crack open a case prior to purchase. If the buyer flakes, I'm now stuck with having to fully disclose to the next potential buyer.

horseco · 14 March 2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

As a seller, I'd only be ok AFTER it was purchased. If something is wrong, I'd refund but I would not crack open a case prior to purchase. If the buyer flakes, I'm now stuck with having to fully disclose to the next potential buyer.

I agree...

kilyung · 14 March 2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by San Ramon

So I'm thinking of buying a Rolex and like to take a look at the movement during the transaction. Keeping in mind that I cannot carry a back case opening tool, what do you guys usually do if you want to take a look inside?

Thanks, San Ramon

I forgot to ask. Do you know what you're looking for? Why are you opening the back? If you've done your due diligence on the seller and the watch, this is usually unnecessary.

azguy · 14 March 2012, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

As a seller, I'd only be ok AFTER it was purchased. If something is wrong, I'd refund but I would not crack open a case prior to purchase. If the buyer flakes, I'm now stuck with having to fully disclose to the next potential buyer.

Agree 100%, the seller knows the watch is real. I would never allow it pre-sale, what if the person doing the checking scratches the watch

then i'm on the hook.

I just sold a watch, a Breitling Navitimer and did just that. Met the buyer at an AD, they actaully looked at all the numbers on the watch, the paperwork, etc and ok'd it without even opening the watch and charged the guy $60 and that included an apprasial.

San Ramon · 14 March 2012, 05:44 AM

No, no, I totally agree with all sellers that once you agree on a price the deal is done, period! The final relief test is by opening the back case to look at the movement at the purchaser's expense (including accidental scratches, nicks, etc by the AD). The seller should not object and the buyer will feel relieved walking away knowing that the thousands of dollars handed over where well worth it, plus AD expenses incurred!

I think this cleared up our understanding!

kilyung · 14 March 2012, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Ramon

No, no, I totally agree with all sellers that once you agree on a price the deal is done, period! The final relief test is by opening the back case to look at the movement at the purchaser's expense (including accidental scratches, nicks, etc by the AD). The seller should not object and the buyer will feel relieved walking away knowing that the thousands of dollars handed over where well worth it, plus AD expenses incurred!

I think this cleared up our understanding!

Once the watch is purchased, the buyer can do whatever he wants to the watch.

Dream99 · 14 March 2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Once the watch is purchased, the buyer can do whatever he wants to the watch.

I toally agree and would never allow that to happen to my watch before I had the cash in my hand.

San Ramon · 14 March 2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dream99

I toally agree and would never allow that to happen to my watch before I had the cash in my hand.

....and the watch is being opened by the AD

13 March 2012, 11:56 AM	#1
San Ramon Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 70	Visual inspection So I'm thinking of buying a Rolex and like to take a look at the movement during the transaction. Keeping in mind that I cannot carry a back case opening tool, what do you guys usually do if you want to take a look inside? Thanks, San Ramon

13 March 2012, 12:00 PM	#2
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Take to an AD __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

13 March 2012, 12:35 PM	#4
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Some are, some aren't. Definitely call before and ask. As always, buy the seller before you buy the watch! __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

13 March 2012, 01:28 PM	#6
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	He should be. I wouldn't mind. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

13 March 2012, 12:07 PM	#3
San Ramon Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 70	Are they usually ok with that, do you set up an appointment, how much the typical AD charges,etc? Thx, San Ramo

13 March 2012, 01:29 PM	#7
ersnyder 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,103	Call and offer to pay for the technician's time and they'll appreciate your consideration and likely open it for free.

13 March 2012, 02:04 PM	#8
San Ramon Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 70	Thanks guys for your input

13 March 2012, 06:21 PM	#9
Daniel Tan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: daniel tan Location: Malaysia Watch: DSSD DJ EXPII PAM Posts: 210	How to open deepsea? And how to close it?

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DJJon "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Jon Location: USA Watch: DJ - Need Sub Bad Posts: 1,889	x3

14 March 2012, 01:32 AM	#14
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,950	As a seller, I'd only be ok AFTER it was purchased. If something is wrong, I'd refund but I would not crack open a case prior to purchase. If the buyer flakes, I'm now stuck with having to fully disclose to the next potential buyer.

14 March 2012, 05:44 AM	#18
San Ramon Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 70	No, no, I totally agree with all sellers that once you agree on a price the deal is done, period! The final relief test is by opening the back case to look at the movement at the purchaser's expense (including accidental scratches, nicks, etc by the AD). The seller should not object and the buyer will feel relieved walking away knowing that the thousands of dollars handed over where well worth it, plus AD expenses incurred! I think this cleared up our understanding!

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