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Kingair · 11 April 2012, 04:34 PM

Does anyone have some info on the Rolex 5513 without a Rolex crown sign on the dial ?
Genuine Rolex or a great fake ones ?

What is says on the dial :

ROLEX
OYSTER PERPETUAL

200m=660ft
SUBMARINER

That's it : no Rolex crown on the dial, just text

Owner told me it is a 'custom dial'
Serial 2.8xx.xxx (so from around 1969 according to him, but more 1970-71 for me)

Thanks for sharing the info

pusscadour · 11 April 2012, 04:50 PM

I think that serial would put the watch closer to 1973, and then the dial would more likely be ft. first.
The dial could be redone/aftermarket, do you have any pictures, the guys here are really clued up on the variations.

Kingair · 11 April 2012, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusscadour

I think that serial would put the watch closer to 1973, and then the dial would more likely be ft. first.
The dial could be redone/aftermarket, do you have any pictures, the guys here are really clued up on the variations.

Yes that's correct it will be more beginning of 70's than '69

Pic attached

Waiting for info . . . .

Thanks guys

Mark020 · 11 April 2012, 06:09 PM

Poor redial. Look at the 12 triangle.

pusscadour · 11 April 2012, 06:35 PM

Shame about the dial, the rest of the watch and the bracelet look fantastic! If you can get it for a good price it could be worth the purchase and trying to find a correct dial (though matching that lovely tritium is going to be tough).

mike · 11 April 2012, 08:30 PM

Badly redone dial.

mr500cm · 11 April 2012, 09:12 PM

First rate watch, second rate dial. Pitty.

Frogman4me · 11 April 2012, 09:29 PM

:(

Kingair · 11 April 2012, 09:51 PM

Just had some replies from my European Rolex friends.
Dial is fake . . . .

So I am not going to buy it.

Thanks for the coop guys

Keeperoftime · 11 April 2012, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Badly redone dial.

x10

P.S Kingair, your American friend in Louisiana, could have told you the dial was improper

greekbum · 11 April 2012, 10:20 PM

Owner told me it is a 'custom dial'...............this means it was not made by Rolex and as others have said its a redial or a custom made dial but NOT original Rolex dial

s4dan · 11 April 2012, 10:34 PM

This watch is going downhill fast, except the writing which appears to be going uphill.

Mark020 · 11 April 2012, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingair

Just had some replies from my European Rolex friends.
Dial is fake . . . .

So I am not going to buy it.

Thanks for the coop guys

Is the price is right and the rest of the watch is ok: why not?

Keeperoftime · 11 April 2012, 11:48 PM

IMHO The Problem with watches like this is one can assume if someone changed/refinished the dial, one of the most significant parts aesthetically, so poorly most likely anything else that has been changed was also done poorly. Just my thoughts...

Unless, the watch is $1500-2000 I would run away.

Kingair · 11 April 2012, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeperoftime

P.S Kingair, your American friend in Louisiana, could have told you the dial was improper

Thanks for letting me know that I have US friends as well.
You can bet I am going to use this friendship relation future wise if I need some info ;-)

Have been in Bastrop some years ago.
Will never forget the 'heat' of the peppers in the air.
Gave me a feeling that I had to sneeze all the time ;-)

Michael M. · 12 April 2012, 12:03 AM

Bad redial. A correct dial will run you about $700-$900 USD. The period correct dial for a 2.8mil 5513 would be a feet first dial

Kingair · 12 April 2012, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark020

Is the price is right and the rest of the watch is ok: why not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeperoftime

IMHO The Problem with watches like this is one can assume if someone changed/refinished the dial, one of the most significant parts aesthetically, so poorly most likely anything else that has been changed was also done poorly. Just my thoughts...

Unless, the watch is $1500-2000 I would run away.

No it's more . . . $ 3500.00
So that already raised me personally some questions.
Investing that amount in a watch what might not give me 100 % satisfaction . . .

Thank guys for the great help

Whenever you are visiting Belgium let me know

The beers wil be there !

BTW (we've got about 1150 different . . . .;-)

mr500cm · 12 April 2012, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeperoftime

IMHO The Problem with watches like this is one can assume if someone changed/refinished the dial, one of the most significant parts aesthetically, so poorly most likely anything else that has been changed was also done poorly. Just my thoughts...

Unless, the watch is $1500-2000 I would run away.

That is if is a legit Rolex. Then agin it might not be.

Kingair · 12 April 2012, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr500cm

That is if is a legit Rolex. Then agin it might not be.

Guess you want a beer ?

mr500cm · 12 April 2012, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingair

Guess you want a beer ?

Corona with lime please.

Kingair · 12 April 2012, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr500cm

Corona with lime please.

That's no beer.
This is water with some kind of beer taste added and to make it drinkable you have to add a lime ;-)

Google Duvel, Westvleteren (a few times the best beer in the world), West Malle, Maredsous, etc
These are beers ;-)

Mark020 · 12 April 2012, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingair

No it's more . . . $ 3500.00

That's a joke. Value is something like USD 2k imho.

Kingair · 12 April 2012, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark020

That's a joke. Value is something like USD 2k imho.

I know . . . . .
People always think they have a fortune in their hand when it says Rolex . .
Unfortunately . . .
If I would make an offer I would go for $ 1500.00
That's a comfortable price for me . . . a price that doesn't would make me feel like "why did I paid this amount . . . unbelievable I made such an error at that time" ;-)

PS : your avatar a 911 RS '73 2.7 Lightweight M471 ?

ecsub44 · 12 April 2012, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingair

That's no beer.
This is water with some kind of beer taste added and to make it drinkable you have to add a lime ;-)

Google Duvel, Westvleteren (a few times the best beer in the world), West Malle, Maredsous, etc
These are beers ;-)

Paul49 · 12 April 2012, 11:12 PM

Hi new here , just inherited a box full of old watches and found a small ladies watch with no markings on the face, but opens front and rear on hinges, marked up as a Rolex and gold stamps with 1111732 in lid and on workings Rolex 15 jewels and Swiss made.
How can i identify this watch?
Regards Paul.

Kingair · 12 April 2012, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul49

Hi new here , just inherited a box full of old watches and found a small ladies watch with no markings on the face, but opens front and rear on hinges, marked up as a Rolex and gold stamps with 1111732 in lid and on workings Rolex 15 jewels and Swiss made.
How can i identify this watch?
Regards Paul.

Hello Paul,

You are in a thread discussing a Rolex 55xx series. . . .

How can we give you advice without a picture ?

Please open a new thread and make sure you got some pics available and the experts will help you.

Good luck

Paul49 · 12 April 2012, 11:21 PM

Sorry

just saw this thread about no crown mark

Mark020 · 13 April 2012, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingair

PS : your avatar a 911 RS '73 2.7 Lightweight M471 ?

Yes. Not mine though

Kingair · 13 April 2012, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul49

Sorry

just saw this thread about no crown mark

No problem.
Still today I make mistakes ;-)

Kingair · 13 April 2012, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark020

Yes. Not mine though

Guess you would fit nice in it ;-)

Love the 2.7 RS . . . . is like a vintage Rolex . . .

11 April 2012, 10:20 PM	#11
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Owner told me it is a 'custom dial'...............this means it was not made by Rolex and as others have said its a redial or a custom made dial but NOT original Rolex dial __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

11 April 2012, 11:48 PM	#14
Keeperoftime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,732	IMHO The Problem with watches like this is one can assume if someone changed/refinished the dial, one of the most significant parts aesthetically, so poorly most likely anything else that has been changed was also done poorly. Just my thoughts... Unless, the watch is $1500-2000 I would run away. __________________ As a man is, so he sees. As the eye is formed, such are its powers. William Blake

11 April 2012, 04:50 PM	#2
pusscadour Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Madrid Posts: 34	I think that serial would put the watch closer to 1973, and then the dial would more likely be ft. first. The dial could be redone/aftermarket, do you have any pictures, the guys here are really clued up on the variations.

11 April 2012, 06:09 PM	#4
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,132	Poor redial. Look at the 12 triangle.

11 April 2012, 06:35 PM	#5
pusscadour Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Madrid Posts: 34	Shame about the dial, the rest of the watch and the bracelet look fantastic! If you can get it for a good price it could be worth the purchase and trying to find a correct dial (though matching that lovely tritium is going to be tough).

11 April 2012, 08:30 PM	#6
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Badly redone dial.

11 April 2012, 09:12 PM	#7
mr500cm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Lance Location: Florida Watch: Submariner Posts: 142	First rate watch, second rate dial. Pitty.

11 April 2012, 09:29 PM	#8
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	:(

11 April 2012, 09:51 PM	#9
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Just had some replies from my European Rolex friends. Dial is fake . . . . So I am not going to buy it. Thanks for the coop guys

11 April 2012, 10:34 PM	#12
s4dan Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: 1680 Red Posts: 694	This watch is going downhill fast, except the writing which appears to be going uphill.

12 April 2012, 12:03 AM	#16
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Bad redial. A correct dial will run you about $700-$900 USD. The period correct dial for a 2.8mil 5513 would be a feet first dial

12 April 2012, 11:12 PM	#25
Paul49 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2	Hi new here , just inherited a box full of old watches and found a small ladies watch with no markings on the face, but opens front and rear on hinges, marked up as a Rolex and gold stamps with 1111732 in lid and on workings Rolex 15 jewels and Swiss made. How can i identify this watch? Regards Paul.

12 April 2012, 11:21 PM	#27
Paul49 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2	Sorry just saw this thread about no crown mark

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