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p_mcgee · 13 April 2012, 12:04 PM

I wear my Sub-C most of the time & work in my Panerai 177 a couple days a week. My Pepsi GMT 16710 (Z serial) rarely gets out of the safe, and then on weekends only. I had to have the Pepsi, said I'd never sell it & now...its just okay.

The white Explorer II 216570 has caught my eye. I think the Exp II would get more wrist time & is more of a contrast to the Sub-C, but I'm a little concerned that nice late serial GMT IIs are tough to find.

Would you flip the Pepsi for the Exp II (assuming that "both" isn't an option)? I suppose another option would be to switch in a coke bezel insert and see if the GMT sings any louder.

eddie_b · 13 April 2012, 12:09 PM

That's kind of a difficult one but since you don't wear it much I'd say do it! Once you get used to the new style Rolex watches, the older models feel really dated imo.

Htab · 13 April 2012, 12:45 PM

I would pick the exp2

Oyster Al · 13 April 2012, 12:46 PM

No way Magee! The pepsi gmt is such an icon, you will regret the move IMHO. Try the coke first before you do anything rash. I have a late pepsi and a subc too and I find that a nice modern-vintage combo.maybe you can save for the explorer(this watch will be available for a long time to come.)

toolr · 13 April 2012, 01:06 PM

I would keep the pepsi 16710.

ndsleep612 · 13 April 2012, 01:23 PM

Get the coke and all-black bezels. Switch it up with the Pepsi bezel. It'll look like a new watch.

MortgageGuy · 13 April 2012, 02:53 PM

OK, I am going to get killed for saying this. The pepsi is an amazing watch and such an icon for Rolex but it has had its day in the sense that it is not the new hot thing... It is an awesome watch, and IMO the most comfortable Rolex I have ever owned, it just works IMO

To me the Pepsi would be a keeper for a collection however that being said I am a flipper and have owned several and will own another again I am sure.

If you are not wearing it I say flip it and grab something you will use, it is a watch after all and meant to be used not sit in a safe

errol0_7 · 13 April 2012, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie_b

That's kind of a difficult one but since you don't wear it much I'd say do it! Once you get used to the new style Rolex watches, the older models feel really dated imo.

I loved my older GMT until the GMT IIC came out which pretty much made the older one redundant, sad as its such an iconic watch which is a very nice and classy watch.

I decided to flip mine and get only watches that I wear.

Good luck

Cru Jones · 13 April 2012, 06:23 PM

how about picking up a super jubilee bracelet for the pepsi?

jdc · 13 April 2012, 07:46 PM

If you are not wearing it then get rid and buy something you do like

T.S.Eliot · 13 April 2012, 07:50 PM

No.

dddrees · 13 April 2012, 07:57 PM

I wouldn't do it. It's so versatile with all the inserts and band options, and it's great looking on a jubilee. It's a classic. I wear mine and enjoy mine a lot.

However this is not me and my Pepsi, it's you and what you want to do. Do what's right for you.

TSW · 13 April 2012, 09:01 PM

I wouldn't.

Jede89 · 13 April 2012, 09:06 PM

Simple answer.. NO! GMT Pepsi are timeless.. The explorer II already looks dated (just my opinion)

Casey VP-26 · 13 April 2012, 09:09 PM

No no no.

A320 · 13 April 2012, 09:28 PM

keep the PEPSI

bigwatchman · 13 April 2012, 09:32 PM

Are you serious? The Pepsi is an icon. I'd keep it.

drockadam · 13 April 2012, 09:35 PM

No. Don't sell the 16710! I'll wear it for you, only for a bit!

SeaDweller50 · 13 April 2012, 09:36 PM

If its a late Z serial it may have the 3186 inside. Keep it if it has.

HDHNTER · 13 April 2012, 09:44 PM

I flipped my 'M' Pepsi for the same reason and have no regrets. Loved it as my every day piece for the last few years..... and then the Sub-C came along.

Eeyore · 13 April 2012, 09:45 PM

Interesting question - In my experience, most of us are a balance between wanting something new and fashionable, and wanting things we know are classic and tasteful.

If people get too much to either side, we call them dumb and tasteless, or old and grouchy.

Most of us are somewhere in the middle.

I am currently mostly wearing my pam 112 (fashionable, but i love it!) and my gmt ii mostly sits in its drawer.

But i know things will reverse in time, and i would regret ever getting rid of it!
My honest opinion is in ten years' time, the current crop of rolex's will look like dated crap. Load up on them with caution!

p_mcgee · 13 April 2012, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexplorerII

If its a late Z serial it may have the 3186 inside. Keep it if it has.

No such luck. If it had the 3186 movement it would be an easy choice...I'd sell it for sure! Talk about overpriced...

Anyway, thanks for all your advice. For now I think I'll walk it over to Chicago RSC and have them swap in a coke bezel.

SeaDweller50 · 13 April 2012, 10:55 PM

You're absolutely right in that late GMT's Z/M serials are hard to come by so it is a tough choice indeed. I'm not sure a coke bezel will make a huge difference. One thing is for sure though, the new explorer is awesome. Looks amazing on the wrist. I have a late Z 3185 GMT II that I'm about to sell, but it's not going to be easy parting with it I can tell you.

SaddleSC · 13 April 2012, 11:13 PM

Regardless of how "iconic" a watch is, ultimately the point of this hobby is to get enjoyment out of wearing the watches you own. I have faced this dilemma many times in my watch-collecting pursuits and have always been happiest when I follow this advice...if I am not going to wear it and enjoy it, then I will trade it for something that suits me better.

I traded an "iconic" 14060M for a Sub C and have never been happier. I also traded an "iconic" 16600 for a new DSSD and never regretted it for a moment. Buy what you like. Wear it. Repeat.

Cru Jones · 14 April 2012, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eeyore

My honest opinion is in ten years' time, the current crop of rolex's will look like dated crap. Load up on them with caution!

azguy · 14 April 2012, 12:14 AM

Having been there myself, source a jubilee or the GMT and it will get more wrist time, I promise

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gmh1013 · 14 April 2012, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigwatchman

Are you serious? The Pepsi is an icon. I'd keep it.

I would not flip my Pepsi for any Exp or Exp2 model....
Of course thats IMHO

gwalker · 14 April 2012, 01:40 AM

Not a snowballs chance in hell. I like the GMT. Can't say the same for the Exp II.

JUSTROLEXES · 14 April 2012, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

Regardless of how "iconic" a watch is, ultimately the point of this hobby is to get enjoyment out of wearing the watches you own. I have faced this dilemma many times in my watch-collecting pursuits and have always been happiest when I follow this advice...if I am not going to wear it and enjoy it, then I will trade it for something that suits me better.

I traded an "iconic" 14060M for a Sub C and have never been happier. I also traded an "iconic" 16600 for a new DSSD and never regretted it for a moment. Buy what you like. Wear it. Repeat.

Well Said my friend

gargamel647 · 14 April 2012, 02:13 AM

I think you'll regret it.

13 April 2012, 12:04 PM	#1
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	Flip Pepsi GMT for new Exp 2? I wear my Sub-C most of the time & work in my Panerai 177 a couple days a week. My Pepsi GMT 16710 (Z serial) rarely gets out of the safe, and then on weekends only. I had to have the Pepsi, said I'd never sell it & now...its just okay. The white Explorer II 216570 has caught my eye. I think the Exp II would get more wrist time & is more of a contrast to the Sub-C, but I'm a little concerned that nice late serial GMT IIs are tough to find. Would you flip the Pepsi for the Exp II (assuming that "both" isn't an option)? I suppose another option would be to switch in a coke bezel insert and see if the GMT sings any louder.

13 April 2012, 02:53 PM	#7
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	OK, I am going to get killed for saying this. The pepsi is an amazing watch and such an icon for Rolex but it has had its day in the sense that it is not the new hot thing... It is an awesome watch, and IMO the most comfortable Rolex I have ever owned, it just works IMO To me the Pepsi would be a keeper for a collection however that being said I am a flipper and have owned several and will own another again I am sure. If you are not wearing it I say flip it and grab something you will use, it is a watch after all and meant to be used not sit in a safe __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

13 April 2012, 07:50 PM	#11
T.S.Eliot "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: K Location: KSA Watch: aholic Posts: 1,499	No. __________________ "Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead, / Forgot the cry of gulls, and the deep seas swell / And the profit and loss. / A current under sea / Picked his bones in whispers. / As he rose and fell / He passed the stages of his age and youth / Entering the whirlpool. / Gentile or Jew / O you who turn the wheel and look to windward, / Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you." Cheers, K

13 April 2012, 07:57 PM	#12
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,258	I wouldn't do it. It's so versatile with all the inserts and band options, and it's great looking on a jubilee. It's a classic. I wear mine and enjoy mine a lot. However this is not me and my Pepsi, it's you and what you want to do. Do what's right for you. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

13 April 2012, 09:01 PM	#13
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	I wouldn't. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

13 April 2012, 12:09 PM	#2
eddie_b 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Eddie Location: NE FL Watch: 126610LV Posts: 2,083	That's kind of a difficult one but since you don't wear it much I'd say do it! Once you get used to the new style Rolex watches, the older models feel really dated imo.

13 April 2012, 12:45 PM	#3
Htab "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Dad Location: USA Watch: To many Posts: 1,389	I would pick the exp2

13 April 2012, 12:46 PM	#4
Oyster Al "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Al Location: USA Posts: 1,564	No way Magee! The pepsi gmt is such an icon, you will regret the move IMHO. Try the coke first before you do anything rash. I have a late pepsi and a subc too and I find that a nice modern-vintage combo.maybe you can save for the explorer(this watch will be available for a long time to come.)

13 April 2012, 01:06 PM	#5
toolr 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northwest Posts: 1,376	I would keep the pepsi 16710.

13 April 2012, 01:23 PM	#6
ndsleep612 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SF Watch: Ex.2. Posts: 512	Get the coke and all-black bezels. Switch it up with the Pepsi bezel. It'll look like a new watch.

13 April 2012, 06:23 PM	#9
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,618	how about picking up a super jubilee bracelet for the pepsi?

13 April 2012, 07:46 PM	#10
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	If you are not wearing it then get rid and buy something you do like

13 April 2012, 09:06 PM	#14
Jede89 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Black Bay Posts: 221	Simple answer.. NO! GMT Pepsi are timeless.. The explorer II already looks dated (just my opinion)

13 April 2012, 09:09 PM	#15
Casey VP-26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,731	No no no.

13 April 2012, 09:28 PM	#16
A320 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in the sky Posts: 208	keep the PEPSI

13 April 2012, 09:32 PM	#17
bigwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,307	Are you serious? The Pepsi is an icon. I'd keep it.

13 April 2012, 09:35 PM	#18
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	No. Don't sell the 16710! I'll wear it for you, only for a bit! __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

13 April 2012, 09:36 PM	#19
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	If its a late Z serial it may have the 3186 inside. Keep it if it has.

13 April 2012, 09:44 PM	#20
HDHNTER "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Allen Location: SC Posts: 2,766	I flipped my 'M' Pepsi for the same reason and have no regrets. Loved it as my every day piece for the last few years..... and then the Sub-C came along. __________________ Instagram @HDHNTER

13 April 2012, 09:45 PM	#21
Eeyore "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Eeyore Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 113	Interesting question - In my experience, most of us are a balance between wanting something new and fashionable, and wanting things we know are classic and tasteful. If people get too much to either side, we call them dumb and tasteless, or old and grouchy. Most of us are somewhere in the middle. I am currently mostly wearing my pam 112 (fashionable, but i love it!) and my gmt ii mostly sits in its drawer. But i know things will reverse in time, and i would regret ever getting rid of it! My honest opinion is in ten years' time, the current crop of rolex's will look like dated crap. Load up on them with caution!

13 April 2012, 10:55 PM	#23
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	You're absolutely right in that late GMT's Z/M serials are hard to come by so it is a tough choice indeed. I'm not sure a coke bezel will make a huge difference. One thing is for sure though, the new explorer is awesome. Looks amazing on the wrist. I have a late Z 3185 GMT II that I'm about to sell, but it's not going to be easy parting with it I can tell you.

13 April 2012, 11:13 PM	#24
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,147	Regardless of how "iconic" a watch is, ultimately the point of this hobby is to get enjoyment out of wearing the watches you own. I have faced this dilemma many times in my watch-collecting pursuits and have always been happiest when I follow this advice...if I am not going to wear it and enjoy it, then I will trade it for something that suits me better. I traded an "iconic" 14060M for a Sub C and have never been happier. I also traded an "iconic" 16600 for a new DSSD and never regretted it for a moment. Buy what you like. Wear it. Repeat. __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

14 April 2012, 12:14 AM	#26
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Having been there myself, source a jubilee or the GMT and it will get more wrist time, I promise

14 April 2012, 01:40 AM	#28
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	Not a snowballs chance in hell. I like the GMT. Can't say the same for the Exp II.

14 April 2012, 02:13 AM	#30
gargamel647 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: Las Vegas Watch: Ho Posts: 679	I think you'll regret it.

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