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Old 21 April 2012, 04:41 AM   #1
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Last of the 14060 2-line non-cosc Submariners?

Yesterday a salesman from a Rolex AD here in Columbus (Ohio) contacted me and asked if I was interested in buying a pre-owned Z series 14060 Submariner.
I accepted his offer and the Fed Ex driver delivered it about an hour ago.
Part of my interest in this watch is because I think it may be one of the last 2-line non-cosc Submariners produced.
The serial number is Z664XXX and the rehaut is not engraved. It was supplied with the original Rolex plastic warranty card.
Previously, I owned 14060 4-line cosc Submariners with the serial numbers Z768XXX and Z768XXX. Both had the serial number engraved on the rehaut.
Does anyone else have a late Z series non-cosc 14060 Sub. If you do, will you post the first 3 digits of the serial number?
I am trying to determine the where in the Z serial number sequence that the 2-line non-cosc to 4-line cosc dial change was made.
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Old 29 July 2012, 07:20 AM   #2
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Yesterday a salesman from a Rolex AD here in Columbus (Ohio) contacted me and asked if I was interested in buying a pre-owned Z series 14060 Submariner.
I accepted his offer and the Fed Ex driver delivered it about an hour ago.
Part of my interest in this watch is because I think it may be one of the last 2-line non-cosc Submariners produced.
The serial number is Z664XXX and the rehaut is not engraved. It was supplied with the original Rolex plastic warranty card.
Previously, I owned 14060 4-line cosc Submariners with the serial numbers Z768XXX and Z768XXX. Both had the serial number engraved on the rehaut.
Does anyone else have a late Z series non-cosc 14060 Sub. If you do, will you post the first 3 digits of the serial number?
I am trying to determine the where in the Z serial number sequence that the 2-line non-cosc to 4-line cosc dial change was made.
FWIW: my 2 line, no rehaut engraving, 14060M serial number Z000853, has the 3130 movement...
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Old 29 July 2012, 07:28 AM   #3
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Why isn't important to you that it is one of the last?
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Old 29 July 2012, 11:09 AM   #4
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My 14060M is Z151XXX

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Old 29 July 2012, 11:32 AM   #5
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Yesterday a salesman from a Rolex AD here in Columbus (Ohio) contacted me and asked if I was interested in buying a pre-owned Z series 14060 Submariner.
I accepted his offer and the Fed Ex driver delivered it about an hour ago.
Part of my interest in this watch is because I think it may be one of the last 2-line non-cosc Submariners produced.
The serial number is Z664XXX and the rehaut is not engraved. It was supplied with the original Rolex plastic warranty card.
Previously, I owned 14060 4-line cosc Submariners with the serial numbers Z768XXX and Z768XXX. Both had the serial number engraved on the rehaut.
Does anyone else have a late Z series non-cosc 14060 Sub. If you do, will you post the first 3 digits of the serial number?
I am trying to determine the where in the Z serial number sequence that the 2-line non-cosc to 4-line cosc dial change was made.

Hey what's wrong with that bracelets end link?
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Old 29 July 2012, 12:12 PM   #6
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A little gap-osis methinks.
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Old 29 July 2012, 12:13 PM   #7
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FWIW: my 2 line, no rehaut engraving, 14060M serial number Z000853, has the 3130 movement...
Nigel, the first 3 numbers. But now that we have the last 3, I guess that's not a good idea now.
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Old 29 July 2012, 12:43 PM   #8
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Nigel, the first 3 numbers. But now that we have the last 3, I guess that's not a good idea now.
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It is a known issue that all of the SubC and GMTIIC's movement have reliability issues. Something to do with a spring that was introduced. I expect this to further increase the value of older Submariners and GMTIIs.
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Old 29 July 2012, 04:47 PM   #9
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Weren't they random numbers by then anyway with only the Z giving a hint at year of manufacture?
FYI anyway: mine's Z262xxx - 2line/ non engraved rehaut. Believe the flat "S" of Submariner makes it a little rarer too!
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Old 29 July 2012, 05:19 PM   #10
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You cannot determine what is the last or first with any Rolex serial,its just a case stamp and Rolex stamps hundreds at a time.And many case serials overlapped its just a few fonts any way except for those minor details its the same as any other 14060M.
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Old 29 July 2012, 11:34 PM   #11
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Old 30 July 2012, 12:45 AM   #12
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http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=244529

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Old 13 March 2013, 08:00 AM   #13
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Just picked up a nice Z serial 2-liner 14060M today from my new buddy Jon in Boston. Z744XXX with a plastic warranty card. This one's gotta be close to the end of the 2 liners!
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Whats wrong with the SEL's!
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Old 13 March 2013, 08:19 AM   #15
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Just picked up a nice Z serial 2-liner 14060M today from my new buddy Jon in Boston. Z744XXX with a plastic warranty card. This one's gotta be close to the end of the 2 liners!
Congrats..
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Old 13 March 2013, 08:53 AM   #16
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Old 13 March 2013, 09:02 AM   #17
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You cannot determine what is the last or first with any Rolex serial,its just a case stamp and Rolex stamps hundreds at a time.And many case serials overlapped its just a few fonts any way except for those minor details its the same as any other 14060M.
Posts like this this remind of Telecasters and the way they were assembled.

Fender had a boxes full of neck-plates, pots (potentiometers), bridges, etc...

Some of these were serialized but most were not. The assembly person would just reach in, grab a part, and screw it in. That's why we have '69 Telecasters with '68 or '67 specs, and I expect the same is partially true with Rolex.

I see this this dichotomy all of the time when people are trying to verify a vintage piece.

This is my theory and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 13 March 2013, 11:12 AM   #19
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Congrats on the pick up. I'd swing to an AD to have those end links flushed out. LOVE THE 2 LINER!!!
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Old 13 March 2013, 04:00 PM   #20
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I've never seen a non date sub with SEL's
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I've never seen a non date sub with SEL's
Thats correct no 14060 or 14060M came with a SEL bracelet from Rolex.
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