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Old 22 April 2012, 12:18 AM   #1
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Bezel rocking back and forth?

Just noticed this on my sub...the old case. The bezel "rocks" ever so slightly when depressed from the top. I've read this is normal on the newer ceramics but do the older ones do this as well?

Bezel works great in every other sense. CCW only and strong clicks. Just want to hear from some of the older sub owners since I've never owned the old case subs.
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Old 22 April 2012, 01:01 AM   #2
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It's normal.

The old bezels rode flat on the top of the case. The new bezels ride on spring loaded "teeth" that give you the new smoother ratcheting action..
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Thanks Tools. Still getting used to the older pieces.
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Old 22 April 2012, 04:30 AM   #4
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Perfectly normal.
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Old 22 April 2012, 04:32 AM   #5
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Yes. What others have stated.
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Old 22 April 2012, 05:26 AM   #6
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Excellent! I love TRF. Is there any way to reduce the play? Maybe a thicker metal shim/gasket under the bezel?
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Old 22 April 2012, 05:27 AM   #7
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Completely normal.
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Old 22 April 2012, 09:53 AM   #8
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Normal, but I for one do not like it...
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Old 22 April 2012, 06:27 PM   #9
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Not nice to have loose bezel
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Old 22 April 2012, 06:46 PM   #10
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Maybe the bezel is ok but it is the rest of the watch that moves ;-)

I would have it checked you never know.
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None of the bezels on my old model subs 'rock'.
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Old 22 April 2012, 06:53 PM   #12
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It's normal.

The old bezels rode flat on the top of the case. The new bezels ride on spring loaded "teeth" that give you the new smoother ratcheting action..
Hi Larry,

Are you saying that the bezels on all the older subs rock?
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Old 22 April 2012, 06:57 PM   #13
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Excellent! I love TRF. Is there any way to reduce the play? Maybe a thicker metal shim/gasket under the bezel?
Simple answer no have a look at below same principal for all the ceramic inserts.

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Old 22 April 2012, 10:48 PM   #14
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Hi Larry,

Are you saying that the bezels on all the older subs rock?
Now that I read Tools' post, I'm a bit confused myself. Is it the older models that have some play or the newer? Or both?

It's really not that loose. However when I alternatively press the 12 o'clock side of the bezel and the 6 o'clock side, there is movement.
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IMO the new ceramic bezels do rock but the old models don't.
You are not the only one who is confused.
In your original post you said your bezel rocks and it was the old case - then you said you had never owned an old case sub.
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Now that I read Tools' post, I'm a bit confused myself. Is it the older models that have some play or the newer? Or both?

It's really not that loose. However when I alternatively press the 12 o'clock side of the bezel and the 6 o'clock side, there is movement.
If its the older aluminium insert there should not be any movement possible shim is worn/broken or ratchet spring is not located or bent/broke or even a bit of dirt just pop the bezel off have a look .
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Old 23 April 2012, 02:19 AM   #17
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IMO the new ceramic bezels do rock but the old models don't.
You are not the only one who is confused.
In your original post you said your bezel rocks and it was the old case - then you said you had never owned an old case sub.
I've never owned an older sub BEFORE the one I have now. ;-)
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Old 23 April 2012, 02:20 AM   #18
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If its the older aluminium insert there should not be any movement possible shim is worn/broken or ratchet spring is not located or bent/broke or even a bit of dirt just pop the bezel off have a look .
I'll have the RSC check it out. They're close to where I work. Thanks.
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Old 23 April 2012, 02:27 AM   #19
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sounds like there is a little buckle on the bezel. this can happen when it is being levered off.
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Update. Popped the bezel off and cleaned out some grit that was underneath. Put everything back on and VOILA! No more shimmy. Thanks for all the replies. I guess it pays to do this once in a while.
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Yes, dirt and grime will make it happen on the old ones, but the new ones rock and roll right out of the box...
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Are you saying that the bezels on all the older subs rock?
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Old 24 April 2012, 02:02 PM   #24
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Update. Popped the bezel off and cleaned out some grit that was underneath. Put everything back on and VOILA! No more shimmy. Thanks for all the replies. I guess it pays to do this once in a while.
Sounds like a winner to me Amazing what can get under there over the years... In fact I dont think we even want to think what can get under there over the years
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Old 12 May 2012, 10:13 PM   #25
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According to Rolex Canada...

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Just noticed this on my sub...the old case. The bezel "rocks" ever so slightly when depressed from the top. I've read this is normal on the newer ceramics but do the older ones do this as well?

Bezel works great in every other sense. CCW only and strong clicks. Just want to hear from some of the older sub owners since I've never owned the old case subs.
Rolex Canada, who examined the bezel-rocking, advised that it is "perfectly normal" that there is this slight upward/downward rocking motion with the Sub bezel, as long as the bezel is otherwise on firmly, and is clicking on counter-clockwise turning as it should. Again, perfectly normal.
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Old 12 May 2012, 11:18 PM   #26
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Rolex Canada, who examined the bezel-rocking, advised that it is "perfectly normal" that there is this slight upward/downward rocking motion with the Sub bezel, as long as the bezel is otherwise on firmly, and is clicking on counter-clockwise turning as it should. Again, perfectly normal.
Thanks for the update, Dave. It makes sense that there would be some slight tolerances built in where the bezel meets the case. I guess it's more pronounced in some watches than in others. In my case, a good cleaning of the teeth and the metal gasket underneath eliminated the problem.
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