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James 45 · 3 June 2012, 01:51 AM

Good morning I don't have a picture but it is on ebay and this is the address

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/130703972246?...#ht_500wt_1200

I hope that is ok. I am not sure what it should go for but he lives close by and I was going to see if he would take $3600 maybe it is high I don't know. what are your thoughts is it all original? His reserve is over $4500 so I don't think it will sell we are in Canada and never get a high dollar on ebay. O well.

Let me know and Thanks

Robbyvm · 3 June 2012, 03:39 AM

Meters first on a correct 9315 bracelet... 4500$ is a good price if the watch is in nice condition.
Pics a a litlle dark to tell but there will ne experts along shortly

James 45 · 3 June 2012, 03:44 AM

Thanks

Twsns · 3 June 2012, 03:50 AM

I'm not an expert but check the serial number it should be around 2,16X,XXX if it's a 1967. The bezel insert isn't original. Should have a fat font insert for that year.

azguy · 3 June 2012, 04:57 AM

The bracelet looks kind of rough, so maybe $4,000, so you can source the proper bezel insert. Find something with patina'd pearl and some wear on the black.

If you can look at it in person, I would...

It looks like there's about 20 minutes on e-bay left and at $3,800, so I would be surprised if it sold.

Offer him something and explain that you are there with cash, he doesn't have to deal with shipping, e-bay fees and probably PayPal fee too. All he can do is counter offer you.

James 45 · 3 June 2012, 05:09 AM

Yes that was my thinking too I was going to try less than the 3800 on his ebay add and just see.
Thanks for the heads up.

James 45 · 3 June 2012, 05:14 AM

HEY i just noticed that the crown has three dots is that right for 1967? I thought it was a double lock not a triple. Am i wrong?

azguy · 3 June 2012, 05:15 AM

Keep us posted, the proper bezel insert won't be cheap, but you can find one that'll be more appropriate...

This auction will tell you where the market is one a watch like this without box and papers and no service history...The bad pictures did him no favors either.

Hey, the watch is 45 years old, I'm sure a crown or crystal has been replaced and at some point.

Kingair · 3 June 2012, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James 45

Good morning I don't have a picture but it is on ebay and this is the address

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/130703972246?...#ht_500wt_1200

I hope that is ok. I am not sure what it should go for but he lives close by and I was going to see if he would take $3600 maybe it is high I don't know. what are your thoughts is it all original? His reserve is over $4500 so I don't think it will sell we are in Canada and never get a high dollar on ebay. O well.

Let me know and Thanks

Sold for $ 3800.00 . . .

Yours . . ?

HAGW

James 45 · 3 June 2012, 05:42 AM

No it had a reserve on it still. But when I called him he said he would think about my offer of cash in hand as to the ebay world. So I hope in a few days he will make me a good home town deal! Any thoughts on the three dot crown for a 1967- 5513.

Robbyvm · 3 June 2012, 06:10 AM

Its a crown that has been changed during a service

Kingair · 3 June 2012, 08:07 AM

That's an easy fix !

Good luck

Prettig weekend Robby

HAGW

Robbyvm · 3 June 2012, 08:28 AM

Thx Marc !

Warnsboy · 3 June 2012, 08:34 AM

End Links don't look right to me.

I would post this on VRF before buying

Also ask for and post pics of S/N and Model No.

Twsns · 3 June 2012, 11:47 AM

Ends should be 580, and also the 93150 looks weird, but the bracelet could be an older one with a stamp "Patent Pending." Newer ones have "Patented" stamped when you flip the bracelet off the clasp.

James 45 · 8 June 2012, 12:06 PM

So I went and looked at the watch today and it seems that it was re-lumed.
It still glowed. Does that affect the price much? I think the end links said 280
is that right?
Thanks

harry in montreal · 8 June 2012, 01:47 PM

The re-lumed hits the value pretty hard. i would keep looking. the dial is a huge amount of the value of the watch. plus you will forever be looking at the redone plots. better with a rough orig dial than one that has been altered

jedly1 · 8 June 2012, 03:29 PM

The dial lOoks fine for a 67and not relUmed, a 67 dial should still glow , perfectly normal.

Bracelet is later addition.

James 45 · 8 June 2012, 04:00 PM

Hmm

bertberr · 8 June 2012, 08:28 PM

Dial looks original to me too, though there is some plot degradation. Bracelet is a folded link 9315, as somebody else mentioned, difficult to gauge exact wear / stretch from those pics, but it does look a little tired. Could have had 7206 originally, but a 9315 isn't far out in date terms, and some even say the first 9315/280 combos were sold from around '66/67, so could even be original?

Pics too dark / small etc to give a really good representation, but at 3800 USD / 2500 GBP, I'd say it was pretty good value if it all checked out and the bracelet wasn't scrap. Inlays aren't that expensive (300 USD ish) and even as is you could happily wear it. Seems like there are some service markings in case back, but I suppose you'd have to budget another 700 USD for a full service / pressure test etc if you were planning on wearing it every day.

Edited to add: I had a 1.73m meters first, which I believed to be from circa 1967.

Kayaker52 · 8 June 2012, 09:06 PM

Kind of crappy for that much money.

Twsns · 9 June 2012, 01:50 AM

Dial is good. Sometimes they still glow after that long of a time. Doesn't look relumed to me.

azguy · 9 June 2012, 02:54 AM

From experience, I would always have a loop with me if looking at a wtahc like this, it make looking at the plots much easier... Like harry said, if it's been re-lumed look elsewhere.

It's impossible to tell from the picture IMHO.

rolexsport · 9 June 2012, 08:30 AM

i have a 5513, look under all my posts and you will find over 50 pics of it, gl

3 June 2012, 01:51 AM	#1
James 45 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Watch: No date Sub 14060M Posts: 432	Help I am looking at a 5513 but not sure if the dial is right or the band. Good morning I don't have a picture but it is on ebay and this is the address http://www.ebay.ca/itm/130703972246?...#ht_500wt_1200 I hope that is ok. I am not sure what it should go for but he lives close by and I was going to see if he would take $3600 maybe it is high I don't know. what are your thoughts is it all original? His reserve is over $4500 so I don't think it will sell we are in Canada and never get a high dollar on ebay. O well. Let me know and Thanks

3 June 2012, 03:39 AM	#2
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	Meters first on a correct 9315 bracelet... 4500$ is a good price if the watch is in nice condition. Pics a a litlle dark to tell but there will ne experts along shortly

3 June 2012, 03:44 AM	#3
James 45 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Watch: No date Sub 14060M Posts: 432	Thanks

3 June 2012, 03:50 AM	#4
Twsns Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: New York Watch: 5513 Posts: 72	I'm not an expert but check the serial number it should be around 2,16X,XXX if it's a 1967. The bezel insert isn't original. Should have a fat font insert for that year.

3 June 2012, 04:57 AM	#5
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	The bracelet looks kind of rough, so maybe $4,000, so you can source the proper bezel insert. Find something with patina'd pearl and some wear on the black. If you can look at it in person, I would... It looks like there's about 20 minutes on e-bay left and at $3,800, so I would be surprised if it sold. Offer him something and explain that you are there with cash, he doesn't have to deal with shipping, e-bay fees and probably PayPal fee too. All he can do is counter offer you.

3 June 2012, 05:09 AM	#6
James 45 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Watch: No date Sub 14060M Posts: 432	Yes that was my thinking too I was going to try less than the 3800 on his ebay add and just see. Thanks for the heads up.

3 June 2012, 05:14 AM	#7
James 45 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Watch: No date Sub 14060M Posts: 432	HEY i just noticed that the crown has three dots is that right for 1967? I thought it was a double lock not a triple. Am i wrong?

3 June 2012, 05:15 AM	#8
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Keep us posted, the proper bezel insert won't be cheap, but you can find one that'll be more appropriate... This auction will tell you where the market is one a watch like this without box and papers and no service history...The bad pictures did him no favors either. Hey, the watch is 45 years old, I'm sure a crown or crystal has been replaced and at some point.

3 June 2012, 05:42 AM	#10
James 45 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Watch: No date Sub 14060M Posts: 432	No it had a reserve on it still. But when I called him he said he would think about my offer of cash in hand as to the ebay world. So I hope in a few days he will make me a good home town deal! Any thoughts on the three dot crown for a 1967- 5513.

3 June 2012, 06:10 AM	#11
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	Its a crown that has been changed during a service

3 June 2012, 08:07 AM	#12
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	That's an easy fix ! Good luck Prettig weekend Robby HAGW

3 June 2012, 08:28 AM	#13
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	Thx Marc !

3 June 2012, 08:34 AM	#14
Warnsboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Midwest-USA Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,942	End Links don't look right to me. I would post this on VRF before buying Also ask for and post pics of S/N and Model No.

3 June 2012, 11:47 AM	#15
Twsns Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: New York Watch: 5513 Posts: 72	Ends should be 580, and also the 93150 looks weird, but the bracelet could be an older one with a stamp "Patent Pending." Newer ones have "Patented" stamped when you flip the bracelet off the clasp.

8 June 2012, 12:06 PM	#16
James 45 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Watch: No date Sub 14060M Posts: 432	So I went and looked at the watch today and it seems that it was re-lumed. It still glowed. Does that affect the price much? I think the end links said 280 is that right? Thanks

8 June 2012, 01:47 PM	#17
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	The re-lumed hits the value pretty hard. i would keep looking. the dial is a huge amount of the value of the watch. plus you will forever be looking at the redone plots. better with a rough orig dial than one that has been altered

8 June 2012, 03:29 PM	#18
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,928	The dial lOoks fine for a 67and not relUmed, a 67 dial should still glow , perfectly normal. Bracelet is later addition.

8 June 2012, 04:00 PM	#19
James 45 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Watch: No date Sub 14060M Posts: 432	Hmm

8 June 2012, 08:28 PM	#20
bertberr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 233	Dial looks original to me too, though there is some plot degradation. Bracelet is a folded link 9315, as somebody else mentioned, difficult to gauge exact wear / stretch from those pics, but it does look a little tired. Could have had 7206 originally, but a 9315 isn't far out in date terms, and some even say the first 9315/280 combos were sold from around '66/67, so could even be original? Pics too dark / small etc to give a really good representation, but at 3800 USD / 2500 GBP, I'd say it was pretty good value if it all checked out and the bracelet wasn't scrap. Inlays aren't that expensive (300 USD ish) and even as is you could happily wear it. Seems like there are some service markings in case back, but I suppose you'd have to budget another 700 USD for a full service / pressure test etc if you were planning on wearing it every day. Edited to add: I had a 1.73m meters first, which I believed to be from circa 1967.

8 June 2012, 09:06 PM	#21
Kayaker52 Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New york Posts: 255	Kind of crappy for that much money.

9 June 2012, 01:50 AM	#22
Twsns Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: New York Watch: 5513 Posts: 72	Dial is good. Sometimes they still glow after that long of a time. Doesn't look relumed to me.

9 June 2012, 02:54 AM	#23
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	From experience, I would always have a loop with me if looking at a wtahc like this, it make looking at the plots much easier... Like harry said, if it's been re-lumed look elsewhere. It's impossible to tell from the picture IMHO.

9 June 2012, 08:30 AM	#24
rolexsport Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: usa Watch: 5513 Posts: 167	i have a 5513, look under all my posts and you will find over 50 pics of it, gl

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