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Goiguidoc · 14 June 2012, 06:12 PM

This Ebayer is posting for the third time the same fake Submariner 6538

Thanks to TRF the first 2 auctions were cancelled, but the question is how long this joke is going to last?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-ROLEX-J...item4845b8fa66

crowncollection · 14 June 2012, 08:20 PM

Reported again, never give up Greg. We will get it cancelled again and again if necessary. Scammers don't change they are criminals and penalties are too weak imho, next to nil for this kind of crime unfortunetely. They hardly ever face charges at all, they just refund at worst and plead ignorance if they are caught out, they should enforce some jail time like other types of fraud.

mcjp6 · 14 June 2012, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goiguidoc

This Ebayer is posting for the third time the same fake Submariner 6538
Thanks to TRF the first 2 auctions were cancelled, but the question is how long this joke is going to last?

Greg, of this seller I have directly asked ebay the same question, lets see where it goes....

and no, we are not wasting out time.

drp2002 · 14 June 2012, 09:05 PM

It doesn't even look good !!

Goiguidoc · 14 June 2012, 09:44 PM

Thanks Guys for your help!
Well appreciated.

drp2002 · 14 June 2012, 11:04 PM

Hey Folks , I contacted the seller in this case to advise him to remove his listing.
He is however adamant that it is genuine!
Here is his response :-
Thanks for the info. Listed the watch before and had some " forum experts" advise me on its authenticity. Sent the watch off to Rolex USA and had it documented. It was verified by several of their salaried Rolex certified experts. Documents were verified by EBay and their outside watch experts. I have a direct contact at Rolex that is familiar with the watch that can verify this. What are your credentials with Rolex? If any, I will let them know that their inspection process is flawed. I await a response. Thanks

What do you think?

Rsvrider · 14 June 2012, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drp2002

Hey Folks , I contacted the seller in this case to advise him to remove his listing.
He is however adamant that it is genuine!
Here is his response :-
Thanks for the info. Listed the watch before and had some " forum experts" advise me on its authenticity. Sent the watch off to Rolex USA and had it documented. It was verified by several of their salaried Rolex certified experts. Documents were verified by EBay and their outside watch experts. I have a direct contact at Rolex that is familiar with the watch that can verify this. What are your credentials with Rolex? If any, I will let them know that their inspection process is flawed. I await a response. Thanks

What do you think?

Looks llke its a brick and mortar store. Googled it and it's a 25 min drive from my house. I'm curious to go and see the papers. Maybe take some pics of them and post them in the Watch Out section for inspection.
What do you think guys? Yeah or nah...,

drp2002 · 14 June 2012, 11:54 PM

That would be an interesting visit

Also - checkout this James Bond History on SUB

http://jamesbond.ajb007.co.uk/rolex-submariner/

Goiguidoc · 14 June 2012, 11:55 PM

Thanks for doing that!
Very interesting answer...
I just called Rolex Dallas service center a minute ago.
They told me that the report they wrote does NOT authentify the watch.
In other words, the service confirmation paper that they produced is not a confirmation that the watch is original.
So many things are wrong with this watch

I don't get why Roley bothered to issue that report.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drp2002

Hey Folks , I contacted the seller in this case to advise him to remove his listing.
He is however adamant that it is genuine!
Here is his response :-
Thanks for the info. Listed the watch before and had some " forum experts" advise me on its authenticity. Sent the watch off to Rolex USA and had it documented. It was verified by several of their salaried Rolex certified experts. Documents were verified by EBay and their outside watch experts. I have a direct contact at Rolex that is familiar with the watch that can verify this. What are your credentials with Rolex? If any, I will let them know that their inspection process is flawed. I await a response. Thanks

What do you think?

drp2002 · 14 June 2012, 11:59 PM

ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED from Ebay

dieselgeek · 15 June 2012, 12:04 AM

Guys, I know this is not the place, but I"m having a hard time w/ the contact button as well. I'd like to leave feedback for a user, but the text box is greyed out when I try to do so. Am I doing something wrong?

TIA

DG

Goiguidoc · 15 June 2012, 12:16 AM

Well done guys!
Thanks for the support.

azguy · 15 June 2012, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drp2002

ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED from Ebay

crowncollection · 15 June 2012, 12:34 AM

Gone again

:cheers x 2

mcjp6 · 15 June 2012, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drp2002

Documents were verified by EBay and their outside watch experts. I have a direct contact at Rolex that is familiar with the watch that can verify this. What are your credentials with Rolex? If any, I will let them know that their inspection process is flawed. I await a response. Thanks

The above is incorrect. If it were correct how come ebay have removed this listing now for the third time?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goiguidoc

They told me that the report they wrote does NOT authentify the watch.

Correct! and ebay took appropriate action.....

Item 310407395942 is no longer available.

greekbum · 15 June 2012, 07:41 AM

* Watch is all original with no replacement parts. It has been inspected by Rolex USA and documented (documents shown in picture) with all watch identification numbers indicated. Winning bidder will receive contact information for the Rolex USA agent who said they would verify it's authenticity and that the watch has been inspected by them.

Rolex should buy the watch and find out who the Rolex USA agent is who verified the authenticity and pursue all of those involved in this fraud.

IMHO The watch is fake and the seller added documents to gain credibility to further the fraud.

Goiguidoc · 15 June 2012, 04:01 PM

Completely agree!

Btw, sorry for the typos (waste instead of waist)

Quote:

Originally Posted by greekbum

* Watch is all original with no replacement parts. It has been inspected by Rolex USA and documented (documents shown in picture) with all watch identification numbers indicated. Winning bidder will receive contact information for the Rolex USA agent who said they would verify it's authenticity and that the watch has been inspected by them.

Rolex should buy the watch and find out who the Rolex USA agent is who verified the authenticity and pursue all of those involved in this fraud.

IMHO The watch is fake and the seller added documents to gain credibility to further the fraud.

MoBe · 15 June 2012, 06:45 PM

Glad to see that one removed again,good work everyone.

Bangel · 15 June 2012, 09:06 PM

Great work guys!

You are definitely not wasting your time.

14 June 2012, 06:12 PM	#1
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	Are we waisting our time? This Ebayer is posting for the third time the same fake Submariner 6538 Thanks to TRF the first 2 auctions were cancelled, but the question is how long this joke is going to last? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-ROLEX-J...item4845b8fa66

14 June 2012, 08:20 PM	#2
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Reported again, never give up Greg. We will get it cancelled again and again if necessary. Scammers don't change they are criminals and penalties are too weak imho, next to nil for this kind of crime unfortunetely. They hardly ever face charges at all, they just refund at worst and plead ignorance if they are caught out, they should enforce some jail time like other types of fraud. __________________ watches many

15 June 2012, 12:34 AM	#14
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Gone again :cheers x 2 __________________ watches many

15 June 2012, 07:41 AM	#16
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	* Watch is all original with no replacement parts. It has been inspected by Rolex USA and documented (documents shown in picture) with all watch identification numbers indicated. Winning bidder will receive contact information for the Rolex USA agent who said they would verify it's authenticity and that the watch has been inspected by them. Rolex should buy the watch and find out who the Rolex USA agent is who verified the authenticity and pursue all of those involved in this fraud. IMHO The watch is fake and the seller added documents to gain credibility to further the fraud. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

14 June 2012, 09:05 PM	#4
drp2002 Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Dr P Location: UK Posts: 116	It doesn't even look good !!

14 June 2012, 09:44 PM	#5
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	Thanks Guys for your help! Well appreciated.

14 June 2012, 11:04 PM	#6
drp2002 Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Dr P Location: UK Posts: 116	Hey Folks , I contacted the seller in this case to advise him to remove his listing. He is however adamant that it is genuine! Here is his response :- Thanks for the info. Listed the watch before and had some " forum experts" advise me on its authenticity. Sent the watch off to Rolex USA and had it documented. It was verified by several of their salaried Rolex certified experts. Documents were verified by EBay and their outside watch experts. I have a direct contact at Rolex that is familiar with the watch that can verify this. What are your credentials with Rolex? If any, I will let them know that their inspection process is flawed. I await a response. Thanks What do you think?

14 June 2012, 11:54 PM	#8
drp2002 Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Dr P Location: UK Posts: 116	That would be an interesting visit Also - checkout this James Bond History on SUB http://jamesbond.ajb007.co.uk/rolex-submariner/

14 June 2012, 11:59 PM	#10
drp2002 Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Dr P Location: UK Posts: 116	ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED from Ebay

15 June 2012, 12:04 AM	#11
dieselgeek "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Ryan Location: DFW Watch: GMT II C Pepsi Posts: 244	Guys, I know this is not the place, but I"m having a hard time w/ the contact button as well. I'd like to leave feedback for a user, but the text box is greyed out when I try to do so. Am I doing something wrong? TIA DG

15 June 2012, 12:16 AM	#12
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	Well done guys! Thanks for the support.

15 June 2012, 06:45 PM	#18
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	Glad to see that one removed again,good work everyone.

15 June 2012, 09:06 PM	#19
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	Great work guys! You are definitely not wasting your time.

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