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Puffy · 3 July 2012, 09:20 PM

hi guys,
i'm doing some research on LV dial variations and it'd be great if you could post a nice clear close up of your LV's dial - only interested in the discontinued LV

I'm also keen to know the serial and first three digits including date of purchase, as per below.

If your LV has been serviced and given a service dial, please state this.

When I have enough info, I'll post my report when I have enough data and dials to work with.

thanks guys!!

Serial: F313xxx
Purchased: July 2004

Serial: M277xxx
Purchased: May 2008

TimeToGo · 3 July 2012, 10:06 PM

Here are some references to assist..

http://watchblog.dk/rolex16610lv.html
http://it-it.facebook.com/notes/role...l/272199868910
http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

swissautopro · 3 July 2012, 10:13 PM

I'll play, Puffy.

Serial: M421

Purchased: April 10, 2008.

Never serviced, never opened, original untouched insert, the bracelet has never been off. Absolutely as it came from Rolex.

Passionata · 3 July 2012, 10:29 PM

FXXXXXX
january /2005

NB will check the serial later

Puffy · 3 July 2012, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Here are some references to assist..

http://watchblog.dk/rolex16610lv.html
http://it-it.facebook.com/notes/role...l/272199868910
http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

thanks for these they're good resources, however, there are discrepancies which i'm going to uncover... So far Mondani's research, below, is the most accurate.

there are also lume plots variations which need to be investigated..

impalass · 3 July 2012, 10:42 PM

Serial # V 468xxx

Purchased April, 2012, BNIB. (Canadian AD)

Zed82 · 3 July 2012, 11:26 PM

Serial: Random

Purchased: March 2010

Keeperoftime · 3 July 2012, 11:34 PM

F-Serial

mottykytu · 4 July 2012, 12:07 AM

why 2 F serie have a Flat 4? and one another don't ?

Keeperoftime · 4 July 2012, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mottykytu

why 2 F serie have a Flat 4? and one another don't ?

Because we're dealing with Rolex

It's just "one of those things".

Puffy · 4 July 2012, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mottykytu

why 2 F serie have a Flat 4? and one another don't ?

a. either changed at service
b. it's a late F serial ('till about F887) where some were shipped with pointed 4s

swissautopro · 4 July 2012, 12:40 AM

Serial: M277xxx
Purchased: May 2008

[/QUOTE]

Puffy,

Has your M had a dial change? I have never seen a "5 tick" dial this late, among a couple more anomolies.

swissautopro · 4 July 2012, 12:57 AM

Actually appears you have a MKII dial in your M serial. Did you purchase that watch first hand?

Puffy · 4 July 2012, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissautopro

Puffy,

Has your M had a dial change? I have never seen a "5 tick" dial this late, among a couple more anomolies.

it's untouched mate - this is exactly why i want to do this as there are so many different dials popping up completely out of sequence.

my M's dial even has an Oval "O" and "R" in Oyster aligned right under "R" in Rolex.

if you look at the above Mondani dial reference, my M277 should in fact have been a MK5 like your M421, instead mine is a much later MK.

References that lie close to my M, also use MK5 dials

More interestingly, look at my F313, it uses an MK3 dial, whereas all other Fs use MK2 dials. My F's MK3 dial was only used for a very short period of time in very early D's.

One could conclude that Rolex has a 2mx2m box full of dials and when needed a little elf picks one out...

We need many more dials so we can spot trends and anomalies

Puffy · 4 July 2012, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissautopro

Actually appears you have a MKII dial in your M serial. Did you purchase that watch first hand?

it came to me with all the plastics in tact, no one had tampered with it

Cru Jones · 4 July 2012, 01:05 AM

hmmmm, wonder if padi (peter) has bookmarked this thread already?

just kidding, puffy. it'll be interesting to see where you take this.

swissautopro · 4 July 2012, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

it's untouched mate - this is exactly why i want to do this as there are so many different dials popping up completely out of sequence.

my M's dial even has an Oval "O" and "R" in Oyster aligned right under "R" in Rolex.

if you look at the above Mondani dial reference, my M277 should in fact have been a MK5 like your M421, instead mine is a much later MK.

References that lie close to my M, also use MK5 dials

More interestingly, look at my F313, it uses an MK3 dial, whereas all other Fs use MK2 dials. My F's MK3 dial was only used for a very short period of time in very early D's.

One could conclude that Rolex has a 2mx2m box full of dials and when needed a little elf picks one out...

We need many more dials so we can spot trends and anomalies

Those are the "anomolies" I was referring to. Just more proof that Rolex is like a box of chocolates ...

Davey Boy · 4 July 2012, 01:57 AM

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/183/img0018ji.jpg

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Serial# Z558. Returned From Bob Ridley On 3/8/2012. Had Bob Replace The Dial And All
Three Hands, Stright From Geneva Sw. Took Three Months. Also New Mainspring, Seals
And Train Wheel, Auto Wind Plus Clean, Oil & Regulate.

Puffy · 4 July 2012, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Boy

Serial# Z558. Returned From Bob Ridley On 3/8/2012. Had Bob Replace The Dial And All
Three Hands, Stright From Geneva Sw. Took Three Months. Also New Mainspring, Seals
And Train Wheel, Auto Wind Plus Clean, Oil & Regulate.

great, thanks mate!
how come did Bob replace the dial and hands? It's a Z so still very new...

Interesting to see the service dial, it's a MK4 or MK5...

mike · 4 July 2012, 03:47 AM

F82...... purchased first quarter 05 untouched.

Davey Boy · 4 July 2012, 04:07 AM

I Wanted To Have Something New And Different, I Paid A Heavy Price
For It, But It Glows Like A Torch, And Is Like A New 2012 LV.
As Long As Bob Had It, I Just Went All Out. I Didn't Mind.

brian8121 · 4 July 2012, 04:13 AM

Here you go Anders. Mine currently has a black bezel insert installed.

Serial: F02xxxx

Date of Purchase: I am not the original owner (this was a DavidSW purchase) and unfortunately the original date of purchase (along with name of original owner) has been scribbled out, I'm assuming for privacy purposes. For what it's worth it came with a Flat 4 bezel.

psv · 4 July 2012, 04:19 AM

Mine is a D866xxx with a Mk II dial. Purchased in May 2006 in California.

Sorry, I don't do macro shots! ;-)

emale · 4 July 2012, 05:09 AM

F89, purchased May 2005.

ddnyc77 · 4 July 2012, 05:35 AM

Here are my LVs, Black bezel is a D892 (4/28/06) and came with a pointy 4 green insert, the Green bezel is a F217 (3/7/04). Appologies for the horrible horrible pics.

Swearengen · 4 July 2012, 05:40 AM

Z410 Feb 2007

TimeToGo · 4 July 2012, 07:58 AM

M099... Serial number

TimeToGo · 4 July 2012, 08:10 AM

F935...
.

imono · 4 July 2012, 08:24 AM

D69 serial.
Open papers from AD.

subtona · 4 July 2012, 08:51 AM

Anders, you considering the $11,000 short ft dial

3 July 2012, 09:20 PM	#1
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	Sub 16610LV: Dial Picture Request hi guys, i'm doing some research on LV dial variations and it'd be great if you could post a nice clear close up of your LV's dial - only interested in the discontinued LV I'm also keen to know the serial and first three digits including date of purchase, as per below. If your LV has been serviced and given a service dial, please state this. When I have enough info, I'll post my report when I have enough data and dials to work with. thanks guys!! Serial: F313xxx Purchased: July 2004 Serial: M277xxx Purchased: May 2008 __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

3 July 2012, 10:13 PM	#3
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	I'll play, Puffy. Serial: M421 Purchased: April 10, 2008. Never serviced, never opened, original untouched insert, the bracelet has never been off. Absolutely as it came from Rolex. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12 Last edited by swissautopro; 3 July 2012 at 10:15 PM.. Reason: Added Pics

3 July 2012, 10:29 PM	#4
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	FXXXXXX january /2005 NB will check the serial later __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

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Zed82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Zlatan Location: Sweden Posts: 357	Serial: Random Purchased: March 2010 __________________ "The world´s your oyster..."

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3 July 2012, 10:06 PM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,705	Here are some references to assist.. http://watchblog.dk/rolex16610lv.html http://it-it.facebook.com/notes/role...l/272199868910 http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...ary+Submariner

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mottykytu Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: VIETNAM Posts: 81	why 2 F serie have a Flat 4? and one another don't ?

4 July 2012, 12:40 AM	#12
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Serial: M277xxx Purchased: May 2008 [/QUOTE] Puffy, Has your M had a dial change? I have never seen a "5 tick" dial this late, among a couple more anomolies. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

4 July 2012, 12:57 AM	#13
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Actually appears you have a MKII dial in your M serial. Did you purchase that watch first hand? __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

4 July 2012, 01:05 AM	#16
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,241	hmmmm, wonder if padi (peter) has bookmarked this thread already? just kidding, puffy. it'll be interesting to see where you take this.

4 July 2012, 01:57 AM	#18
Davey Boy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Dave Location: Alabama Watch: 2006 Submariner LV Posts: 669	http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/183/img0018ji.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us Serial# Z558. Returned From Bob Ridley On 3/8/2012. Had Bob Replace The Dial And All Three Hands, Stright From Geneva Sw. Took Three Months. Also New Mainspring, Seals And Train Wheel, Auto Wind Plus Clean, Oil & Regulate.

4 July 2012, 03:47 AM	#20
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	F82...... purchased first quarter 05 untouched.

4 July 2012, 04:07 AM	#21
Davey Boy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Dave Location: Alabama Watch: 2006 Submariner LV Posts: 669	I Wanted To Have Something New And Different, I Paid A Heavy Price For It, But It Glows Like A Torch, And Is Like A New 2012 LV. As Long As Bob Had It, I Just Went All Out. I Didn't Mind.

4 July 2012, 04:19 AM	#23
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Mine is a D866xxx with a Mk II dial. Purchased in May 2006 in California. Sorry, I don't do macro shots! ;-)

4 July 2012, 05:09 AM	#24
emale "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto/TX/GA Posts: 180	F89, purchased May 2005.

4 July 2012, 08:51 AM	#30
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,525	Anders, you considering the $11,000 short ft dial __________________

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