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runner1 · 13 July 2012, 12:01 AM

Hi guys.... Need some advice on a Sub 16610 U serial pre owned in excellent/ to great condition and recently serviced from thier shop's AD's rolex certified watch tech. Can you please tell me what year and if thier asking price of 4,400 is a good deal. Also, they will back the warranty for two years as well. I not very educated with high end pieces and need help. I have always wanted a Sub and finally have saved for a pre loved one. Also, how long is the reserve time/hours on this piece 30 to 40 hrs? Thanks in advance for all your help.

azguy · 13 July 2012, 12:05 AM

U is around 1997.....I would want full and documented proof of service, a full service...not a pressure test, regulation and "spit-shine" service....

You didn't mention if the watch had the box, papers and manuals...

I would say $4,400 is high in my opinion....

I think you should check out some 16610's here on TRF to get an idea on prices....

Do an advanced search with 16610 as you keyword in the classified section, it'll bring them all up.

Rolex74 · 13 July 2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by runner1

Hi guys.... Need some advice on a Sub 16610 U serial pre owned in excellent/ to great condition and recently serviced from thier shop's AD's rolex certified watch tech. Can you please tell me what year and if thier asking price of 4,400 is a good deal. Also, they will back the warranty for two years as well. I not very educated with high end pieces and need help. I have always wanted a Sub and finally have saved for a pre loved one. Also, how long is the reserve time/hours on this piece 30 to 40 hrs? Thanks in advance for all your help.

I just traded my U serial sub at a local AD, they gave me $3500 in trade and they were going to get it serviced, service, at least retail, is around $700 depending on what is done, I know mine had a small dent in the bezel, so that would be replaced, and it would have the two year warranty, so for $4400 it is not too bad.

If it were me, I would save some more and get a SubC, it is built much better, more solid of a watch, I loved mine, but after just a side by side with a SubC I was amazed.

I did have papers and a box

Zman15 · 13 July 2012, 12:17 AM

any papers?

azguy · 13 July 2012, 12:19 AM

Here you go...

http://people.timezone.com/mdisher/a...135/3135_1.htm

mannyv11 · 13 July 2012, 12:25 AM

I would say that price isnt that bad at all if it comes with all the boxes and paperwork. Also like it was said before ask for proof of service and a 2 year warranty is also very nice =). I would try to haggle with them a bit and see if you can get an extra money off the top. Also check bracelet condition see how much "stretch" there is. goodluck and hopefully we get some wrist shots soon

runner1 · 13 July 2012, 12:25 AM

awesome information John! Thank you!

mannyv11 · 13 July 2012, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by azguy

Here you go...

http://people.timezone.com/mdisher/a...135/3135_1.htm

that was actually a great read... thanks for the post

padi56 · 13 July 2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zman15

any papers?

You mean a far expired bit of paper because thats all these so called papers are just a warranty once its expired its just a bit of paper.And today these bits of paper or cards should not be thought of as any authenticity of any watch. Fact today these items are the easiest to fake the watch and condition is paramount not a out dated warranty and a packaging box.And a U serial what this means the case was stamped sometime between August 1997 and September 1998 if it has a luminover dial its more 1998, but that's not necessarily when the watch was made and shipped for sale.

Tools · 13 July 2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by runner1

Hi guys.... Need some advice on a Sub 16610 U serial pre owned in excellent/ to great condition and recently serviced from thier shop's AD's rolex certified watch tech. Can you please tell me what year and if thier asking price of 4,400 is a good deal. Also, they will back the warranty for two years as well. I not very educated with high end pieces and need help. I have always wanted a Sub and finally have saved for a pre loved one. Also, how long is the reserve time/hours on this piece 30 to 40 hrs? Thanks in advance for all your help.

That price is pretty typical of an AD. U serials were out during the 98/99 changeover to Luminova dials, so if it still has a tritium dial, it may be from 97/98, Luminova 98/99. Authorized Dealers will not typically have boxes and "papers" on used watches, although there are exceptions.. You can always ask for a box. Your Dealer receipt and paperwork begins provenance for this watch should you decide to purchase..

Advantages are Dealer contacts and in-house warranty with a watchmaker on staff.

Condition of any used piece is always the final factor in a watch purchase.. If the watch is in excellent condition, this may be a very good, trouble-free, purchase..

runner1 · 13 July 2012, 01:38 AM

Larry...what is the difference in dails luminova and tritium? After looking at the watch, I would rate the watch in great condition just from a visual piont of view no dents, scratches on the head.

padi56 · 13 July 2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by runner1

Larry...what is the difference in dails luminova and tritium? After looking at the watch, I would rate the watch in great condition just from a visual piont of view no dents, scratches on the head.

If the bottom of the dial is not marked T Swiss T or >25 its luminover, but some dials on change over were marked T or >25 but still had Luminover lume. If dial still glows when charged by a strong light source it will be the newer Luminover lume.

azguy · 13 July 2012, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

You mean a far expired bit of paper because thats all these so called papers are just a warranty once its expired its just a bit of paper.And today these bits of paper or cards should not be thought of as any authenticity of any watch. Fact today these items are the easiest to fake the watch and condition is paramount not a out dated warranty and a packaging box.And a U serial what this means the case was stamped sometime between August 1997 and September 1998 if it has a luminover dial its more 1998, but that's not necessarily when the watch was made and shipped for sale.

The warranty paper gives some people a little extra comfort that the watch wasn't stolen (not that a complete set can't be stolne, but less likely) and papers, box and a manual makes a future sale much easier...IMHO

runner1 · 13 July 2012, 03:05 AM

This might be a dumb questions however here it is......does it matter that it's a 1997 production and will it still last the next 20 years with proper service? The AD called me and I negotiated him to come down to $4200.00. It will come with box, and 2 year warranty from the store and they have a on site rolex certified tech. What do you guys think?

TimeToGo · 13 July 2012, 03:21 AM

Pictures of the condition would help.

patek.wis · 13 July 2012, 03:34 AM

I think the price is a bit too high IMHO
Youd be better off trying to find a private seller on here

runner1 · 13 July 2012, 03:46 AM

Guys does it matter if it's a 1997 production year and with proper service will it last the next 20 years? Great condition

TimeToGo · 13 July 2012, 03:54 AM

20 years and more!

Rolex74 · 13 July 2012, 03:59 AM

Before you I would def compare a newer SubC against the older Sub, I think you will be amazed at the differences.

dan5 · 13 July 2012, 09:41 AM

You should look at one for sell on TRF from trusted seller OCrolexguy. Serial S possible a 1995? not sure. Good luck!

Tools · 13 July 2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by runner1

This might be a dumb questions however here it is......does it matter that it's a 1997 production and will it still last the next 20 years with proper service? The AD called me and I negotiated him to come down to $4200.00. It will come with box, and 2 year warranty from the store and they have a on site rolex certified tech. What do you guys think?

Personally, I would prefer one from '97 with the never-to-be-made-again tritium dial..

Aside from the minor cosmetics and lume of the dial, a '97 (pre-Luminova) is virtually identical and will easily last you a lifetime..

4200 is a good price from an Authorized Dealer..

EmpireCity · 13 July 2012, 09:57 AM

IMO $4200 is a good deal based on your observation and what is included with the watch. Always good to have a warranty that you can follow up on by walking into the store. You MAY save $100 or so by purchasing on TRF, but that's pretty minimal.

You have to consider that this model has the hollow end links-- for some, this can be a deal breaker (do some research on this).

BTW-- the Sub will last longer than any memory of what you paid for it..

13 July 2012, 12:01 AM	#1
runner1 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: usa Posts: 51	Sub 16610 U serial Hi guys.... Need some advice on a Sub 16610 U serial pre owned in excellent/ to great condition and recently serviced from thier shop's AD's rolex certified watch tech. Can you please tell me what year and if thier asking price of 4,400 is a good deal. Also, they will back the warranty for two years as well. I not very educated with high end pieces and need help. I have always wanted a Sub and finally have saved for a pre loved one. Also, how long is the reserve time/hours on this piece 30 to 40 hrs? Thanks in advance for all your help.

13 July 2012, 03:59 AM	#19
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	Before you I would def compare a newer SubC against the older Sub, I think you will be amazed at the differences. __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

13 July 2012, 12:05 AM	#2
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	U is around 1997.....I would want full and documented proof of service, a full service...not a pressure test, regulation and "spit-shine" service.... You didn't mention if the watch had the box, papers and manuals... I would say $4,400 is high in my opinion.... I think you should check out some 16610's here on TRF to get an idea on prices.... Do an advanced search with 16610 as you keyword in the classified section, it'll bring them all up.

13 July 2012, 12:17 AM	#4
Zman15 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: US Posts: 294	any papers?

13 July 2012, 12:19 AM	#5
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Here you go... http://people.timezone.com/mdisher/a...135/3135_1.htm

13 July 2012, 12:25 AM	#6
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,539	I would say that price isnt that bad at all if it comes with all the boxes and paperwork. Also like it was said before ask for proof of service and a 2 year warranty is also very nice =). I would try to haggle with them a bit and see if you can get an extra money off the top. Also check bracelet condition see how much "stretch" there is. goodluck and hopefully we get some wrist shots soon

13 July 2012, 01:38 AM	#11
runner1 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: usa Posts: 51	Larry...what is the difference in dails luminova and tritium? After looking at the watch, I would rate the watch in great condition just from a visual piont of view no dents, scratches on the head.

13 July 2012, 03:05 AM	#14
runner1 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: usa Posts: 51	This might be a dumb questions however here it is......does it matter that it's a 1997 production and will it still last the next 20 years with proper service? The AD called me and I negotiated him to come down to $4200.00. It will come with box, and 2 year warranty from the store and they have a on site rolex certified tech. What do you guys think?

13 July 2012, 03:21 AM	#15
TimeToGo 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,783	Pictures of the condition would help.

13 July 2012, 03:34 AM	#16
patek.wis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Will Location: Canada Watch: The Sky Posts: 1,824	I think the price is a bit too high IMHO Youd be better off trying to find a private seller on here

13 July 2012, 03:46 AM	#17
runner1 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: usa Posts: 51	Guys does it matter if it's a 1997 production year and with proper service will it last the next 20 years? Great condition

13 July 2012, 03:54 AM	#18
TimeToGo 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,783	20 years and more!

13 July 2012, 09:41 AM	#20
dan5 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: dallas,tx Posts: 44	You should look at one for sell on TRF from trusted seller OCrolexguy. Serial S possible a 1995? not sure. Good luck!

13 July 2012, 09:57 AM	#22
EmpireCity "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Canada Watch: 16610, 124270 Posts: 337	IMO $4200 is a good deal based on your observation and what is included with the watch. Always good to have a warranty that you can follow up on by walking into the store. You MAY save $100 or so by purchasing on TRF, but that's pretty minimal. You have to consider that this model has the hollow end links-- for some, this can be a deal breaker (do some research on this). BTW-- the Sub will last longer than any memory of what you paid for it..

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