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Old 21 October 2007, 04:01 AM   #1
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The Ultimate WIS Watch

Simply beautiful.


Patek Philippe Calatrava 18kt Rose Gold Mens Watch 5119R

Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 5119, a new version of the Calatrava “Clous de Paris”, Patek Philippe's best known watches of all time.

The timeless design of the case with the unique hand guilloché hobnail pattern and the original dial of the famous Calatrava Ref. 3919 first introduced in the mid 1980's has been kept and adapted in a larger more contemporary size with a diameter of 36mm (formerly 33,50 mm).

o Seconds subdial
o Hobnail patterned bezel
o White lacquered dial
o Strap: alligator with large rectangular scales, shiny black
o Sapphire crystal case back
o Water resistant to 30 m
o Rose gold
o Case diameter: 36 mm

MSRP: US$13,800
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Old 21 October 2007, 04:33 AM   #2
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It is far too classy for me, though.
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Old 21 October 2007, 04:55 AM   #3
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i don't know anything about Patek Phillipe, except they are beautiful and expensive. Now that you've raised the issue: 1) where do you service them 2) are they as sturdy as Rolex 3) do they keep time as well as rolex 4) why do they charge an extra $2k or so for the 'privilege' of a sweep hand? 5) do they hold their value more or less than rolex?
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Old 21 October 2007, 07:04 AM   #4
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If I were to buy a Patek Philippe as an "everyday beater" watch, it would be the Nautilus Jumbo, and as a dress Patek, I would choose this one:

Patek Philippe Model No. 5146J. CLICK!

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Old 21 October 2007, 08:47 AM   #5
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If I were to buy a Patek Philippe as an "everyday beater" watch, it would be the Nautilus Jumbo, and as a dress Patek, I would choose this one:

Patek Philippe Model No. 5146J. CLICK!

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Old 21 October 2007, 09:55 AM   #6
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i don't know anything about Patek Phillipe, except they are beautiful and expensive. Now that you've raised the issue: 1) where do you service them 2) are they as sturdy as Rolex 3) do they keep time as well as rolex 4) why do they charge an extra $2k or so for the 'privilege' of a sweep hand? 5) do they hold their value more or less than rolex?
I thought I would try answering your questions.
1. If I paid that price for a watch, I would choose only to go with their dealers and the company itself, in part, for the practical reason that most of their movements are proprietary and only their own authorized repair network will have the expertise and the parts to fix/service them.
2. I would say no, not in the sense of being able to knock them around as much. Patek watches are stronger performers which last generations though, so in terms of longevity, they are in this sense, even better than Rolex. Remember that Rolex does not finish it's movements nearly as much as Patek.
3. Sure
4. Not quite sure, but my guess is the sweep hand sells better and because of this, they charge more--just maximizing their economic self interest.
5. More, but Rolex is quite excellent too in this regard. No other watch companies perform to the same standard in this department--even Vacheron Constantin and Audemars Piguet, who also make watches of the highest quality. Rolex in this sense performs quite well comparatively. But personally, if I want to invest, I buy stocks or bonds, not watches.

Hope this answers your questions, at least from my point of view. Best.
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Old 22 October 2007, 11:55 PM   #7
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I do not know how they compaire to Rolex in most cases.. I think it is a totaly different beast when it comes to Patek. Other than the Nautilus, they really do not go for the all around sport watch. That is why the Nautilus is so more expencive even in Stainless. They still are keeping with their exclusive pedigree even for a sport watch. It seems that Patek really focuses on dress watches, and does not care about mass appeal or making it be something that the general public will know. Even in their ads they go for a much more subdued cleint base. No storys of races won, mountains scaled or what model this person was wearing when they made their acheivment.

Another reason they are priced higher is there are much fewer of them produced compaired to Rolex. I was told they only make about 30,000 Pateks a year. Others here may have better numbers on this.

It is also true Patek charges for each feature it has. They charge more for an automatic, a second hand and for a date.

As far as servicing, I was told by my local dealer that the servicing is around $900 fo a basic servicing and takes several months. I do not look forward to the day I have to send mine in.

Just my 2 cents
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Old 22 October 2007, 11:57 PM   #8
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Did James Bond or Chuck Yeager ever wear it?
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Old 23 October 2007, 12:29 AM   #9
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This is THE BEST watch I have seen to date!


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Old 23 October 2007, 12:46 AM   #10
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Old 23 October 2007, 01:30 AM   #12
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Hmmm, looks like one of the register surrounds came loose!



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Old 23 October 2007, 01:12 PM   #13
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I like this one. Handmade in Glashuette, mechanical movement (manual winding) and USD1500 MRSP.
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