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Carlos98326194 · 7 September 2012, 12:46 PM

Well this must be a regular a very good problem to have for future 233 owners at some point...

DOT vs AMPM

Aside from the noticeable price differences on both....
Cleaner dial of DOT and busy dial of AMPM...
Rumored or fact movement problem of DOT 233...

What's your take ?

Tried both and really mesmerize with either one

the DOT

the AMPM

Rex312 · 7 September 2012, 12:55 PM

Dot IMO.

red1108nyc · 7 September 2012, 01:11 PM

I kinda like this one:

nick c · 7 September 2012, 01:11 PM

black one

Psmith · 7 September 2012, 02:07 PM

I prefer the AM/PM

TSW · 7 September 2012, 02:32 PM

Dot

kilyung · 7 September 2012, 03:00 PM

kilyung · 7 September 2012, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos98326194

Well this must be a regular a very good problem to have for future 233 owners at some point...

DOT vs AMPM

Aside from the noticeable price differences on both....
Cleaner dial of DOT and busy dial of AMPM...
Rumored or fact movement problem of DOT 233...

The movement is identical between the two variants. There were some issues on I and some J serial models where the PR indicator would get stuck. Pretty much fixed under warranty and problems no longer appeared on K serial onward.

As for dot vs am/pm, entirely personal preference. I get the am/pm hand momentarily confused with the sec hand. Dot is more intuitive for me.

aboen · 7 September 2012, 04:29 PM

I like the dot for a cleaner looking dial.

iLLGT2 · 7 September 2012, 04:35 PM

Am/pm for me

Watchcraze007 · 7 September 2012, 04:52 PM

Something about Panerais that says less is more. The dot. AM/PM doesn't look bad, though. I was even going to buy a SE 391. Indeed a beautiful watch.

Carlos98326194 · 7 September 2012, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Goodness

That is some Mouthwatering MACRO shot

nauticajoe · 7 September 2012, 09:07 PM

Dot for me.

braningan · 7 September 2012, 09:48 PM

Am/pm for me

p_mcgee · 7 September 2012, 11:39 PM

Tie.

Cru Jones · 8 September 2012, 01:58 AM

i'd be THRILLED with either.

Travelller · 8 September 2012, 02:02 AM

DOT... yes, I own an AM/PM and I love it, but the DOT is more... Paneristi

I'd love to find an interview with any OP exec stating their reasons for switching to the new format...

As noted above, MAKE SURE that the PR indicator does not stick!!! Ask the seller to let it wind down just before you go to buy it; that should [hopefully] be enough to verify it. I also read somewhere that there is a visible difference between the old and new PR-indicator slots... you may want to research that too...

Good luck

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick c

[the] black one

Funny guy

TswaneNguni · 8 September 2012, 02:37 AM

Dotty

alexlt730512 · 8 September 2012, 03:32 AM

Dot

HDHNTER · 8 September 2012, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cru jones

i'd be thrilled with either.

+1

HDHNTER · 8 September 2012, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

The movement is identical between the two variants. There were some issues on I and some J serial models where the PR indicator would get stuck. Pretty much fixed under warranty and problems no longer appeared on K serial onward.

As for dot vs am/pm, entirely personal preference. I get the am/pm hand momentarily confused with the sec hand. Dot is more intuitive for me.

There have been sticking PR problems with K's reported as well.

DiverAsia · 8 September 2012, 03:58 AM

My dealer tried to steer me away from the 233 because of the sticky PR. I asked in another thread if anyone had experienced it in the later models, but got no response.

Travelller · 8 September 2012, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiverAsia

...if anyone had experienced it in the later models...

Define later models; if you mean AM/PMs - they do not have the sticky-fang problem because the dial was redesigned to eliminate the problem. Furthermore, the IJK DOT models that stuck were sent in for a modified dial and/or to have the dial realigned. The tolerances were too tight and hence, if the dial was ever so slightly off, the fang would get stuck...

WatchTimes · 8 September 2012, 11:13 PM

DOT!!

Had one, miss it and will surely replace it someday
in the not so distant future.

vincent_drlin · 8 September 2012, 11:47 PM

Dot is absolutely cute!

B. Doggy · 9 September 2012, 12:43 AM

Diggity dot!

watchyou · 9 September 2012, 09:20 AM

AM/PM for me.

gregvisser · 9 September 2012, 04:31 PM

Dot please. Pity they changed it.

Greg

Shrinkdial · 9 September 2012, 04:47 PM

Dot.
Anyone know why they changed it?
They should have given it new model number maybe.

kilyung · 9 September 2012, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrinkdial

Dot.
Anyone know why they changed it?
They should have given it new model number maybe.

1. wider slot for the reserve indicator hand
2. changing the GMT dot to a AM/PM dial like on the 270

7 September 2012, 12:46 PM	#1
Carlos98326194 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Carlos Location: UK Watch: ing YOU! Posts: 1,121	DOT vs AMPM Well this must be a regular a very good problem to have for future 233 owners at some point... DOT vs AMPM Aside from the noticeable price differences on both.... Cleaner dial of DOT and busy dial of AMPM... Rumored or fact movement problem of DOT 233... What's your take ? Tried both and really mesmerize with either one the DOT the AMPM __________________ 16610 116400GV 116520W 00112 116710LN 16610LV 00292 116520B

7 September 2012, 02:07 PM	#5
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	I prefer the AM/PM __________________

7 September 2012, 02:32 PM	#6
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Dot __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

8 September 2012, 03:58 AM	#22
DiverAsia "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Rich Location: Taiwan Watch: 16014 16610 372 Posts: 1,044	My dealer tried to steer me away from the 233 because of the sticky PR. I asked in another thread if anyone had experienced it in the later models, but got no response. __________________ He's a rebel and a runner He's a signal turning green He's a restless young romantic Wants to run the big machine

8 September 2012, 11:13 PM	#24
WatchTimes 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,965	DOT!! Had one, miss it and will surely replace it someday in the not so distant future. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

7 September 2012, 12:55 PM	#2
Rex312 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chicago Watch: GMT Master Posts: 129	Dot IMO.

7 September 2012, 01:11 PM	#3
red1108nyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,514	I kinda like this one:

7 September 2012, 01:11 PM	#4
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	black one

7 September 2012, 03:00 PM	#7
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,950

7 September 2012, 04:29 PM	#9
aboen "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Here and there Posts: 935	I like the dot for a cleaner looking dial.

7 September 2012, 04:35 PM	#10
iLLGT2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Martin Location: NY And FLA Watch: AP ROO Blue Scuba Posts: 2,695	Am/pm for me

7 September 2012, 04:52 PM	#11
Watchcraze007 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Ahmed Location: Dubai & Cairo Watch: All of'em! Posts: 507	Something about Panerais that says less is more. The dot. AM/PM doesn't look bad, though. I was even going to buy a SE 391. Indeed a beautiful watch.

7 September 2012, 09:07 PM	#13
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Dot for me.

7 September 2012, 09:48 PM	#14
braningan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: N/A Posts: 571	Am/pm for me

7 September 2012, 11:39 PM	#15
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	Tie.

8 September 2012, 01:58 AM	#16
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,630	i'd be THRILLED with either.

8 September 2012, 02:37 AM	#18
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Dotty

8 September 2012, 03:32 AM	#19
alexlt730512 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,249	Dot

8 September 2012, 11:47 PM	#25
vincent_drlin Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Taiwan Watch: PAM233,371,390,339 Posts: 56	Dot is absolutely cute!

9 September 2012, 12:43 AM	#26
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Diggity dot! __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

9 September 2012, 09:20 AM	#27
watchyou "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 909	AM/PM for me.

9 September 2012, 04:31 PM	#28
gregvisser "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Greg Visser Location: New Zealand Posts: 607	Dot please. Pity they changed it. Greg

9 September 2012, 04:47 PM	#29
Shrinkdial Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Melbourne Posts: 129	Dot. Anyone know why they changed it? They should have given it new model number maybe.

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