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SubKing · 19 September 2012, 01:52 AM

So i'm sure many of you remember last week I had purchased an AP Legacy and posted several pictures of it. Well, over the weekend I was only wearing it around the house and because of it's HUGE 48mm size, the ceramic octagonal crown was digging into my wrist and hurt because of the sharp point. I could'nt screw down the crown anymore to change the angle and if I tried to unscrewed it a bit to change the angle of the crown and to make it not be so uncomfortable, i feared water would get in it and didn't want to take such a big risk with such a $$ watch.

Another negative about the watch is, the "bullet proof strap" was starting to frey a bit, and i could only imagine what it would look like after a couple of months... also, the strap isn't waterproof because of the leather underside of the strap, so I could never swim with it or shower or anything.. it would be just a once in a while watch which I already own in my collection.. I really loved it so much, but these were things that hit me when I had it over the weekend...

Then I started to think if this was the right choice I made? I put the watch back into the box so I could really think about it.. I decided I wanted to exchange the watch for something I would be getting more use out of due to the comfort..

So i went back to my local AP Ad and spoke with the owner, I told him my concern's and we are close friends so he didn’t mind me exchanging it. I had gave him an extra 500 bucks for a new strap for the legacy when I first purchased it so I could have an extra one on standby incase AP stopped making the straps one day, so since I had worn the strap that was on the legacy and it was no longer perfect as it had some creases, I told him to keep the money for the new strap and use the new strap to replace the strap I had worn over the weekend..

So he did an even exchange for me for the rosegold rubber clad ROO and keep in mind the RG Roo retail is 55,500.00 and the legacy is 47,200.00 so thats a big difference. It's a brand new H series with in-house movement new refreshed dial etc.. How could I go wrong for an even exchange for a watch thats more expensive by $8,300 bucks and I didn't pay full retail for the legacy to begin with, i got a pretty good discount for being a limited watch, but then an even better bang for my buck when I did the exchange. The owner is a great guy and he will have my biz for a very long time.. this is my 3rd AP that I have purchased from him..

I tried on the new 44mm ROOC and I love everything on it except for the dial, I am just inlove with the arabic numbers and won't give those up, so since it didn't sing to me I didn't go that route, and it wasn't about the price, because once im spending this much, what’s another couple grand for something if I really wanted it?

I just love the classic size and look of the RG Roo RC 42mm.

Here is a very interested fact I learned, even though the new 44mm RG RooC is 2 mm larger than the RG 42mm ROO RC, the Rubber clad RG has a couple more grams of gold than the 44mm... This is due to the new 44mm having a solid ceramic bezel and the rubberclad has a rubber bezel that has solid gold underneath the rubber.

Also, the new 44mm has a exhibition case back and the 42mm RC has a solid one.. The owner had told me this as an interesting fact that he recently learned, so its good to know..

I will miss the legacy, it really was an amazing design and unique watch, just not practical for wearing because of how it felt and the fact they don't make a diving strap for it and i don't need any more unpractical watches.

thanks for reading all and enjoy the pics of this classic AP!

dalip · 19 September 2012, 01:57 AM

That would have been my first choice for sure!!! Congrats on that absolute beauty of a watch...wow!!!!! Sorry to hear of the legacy issues but great how it worked out. Amazing discount

texex91 · 19 September 2012, 01:58 AM

Armen was nice to trade it back for you.

Congrats on the RG!

SubKing · 19 September 2012, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

Armen was nice to trade it back for you.

Congrats on the RG!

He is the best guy and always takes such good care of me, which is why I will always spend my money at his shop!

SubKing · 19 September 2012, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dalip

That would have been my first choice for sure!!! Congrats on that absolute beauty of a watch...wow!!!!! Sorry to hear of the legacy issues but great how it worked out. Amazing discount

thank you for the kind words!

yachty 1 · 19 September 2012, 02:01 AM

Congrats! Thank goodness he took it back.

SubKing · 19 September 2012, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by yachty 1

Congrats! Thank goodness he took it back.

yeah, he is a great guy, and the watch i only put on 3 times, so not like there were any scratches or anything, it was perfect condition, just the strap which I paid him for. he understood exactly what i was saying and its a big purchase, so he wanted to make sure I was happy. that's first class service all the way.

kilyung · 19 September 2012, 02:15 AM

You saw the light! I love the RGRC.

chinguel · 19 September 2012, 02:17 AM

Congrats. It's an amazing AP

Watchonisto · 19 September 2012, 02:21 AM

Congrats and I'm glad you are happy with this one.

FeelingTheBlues · 19 September 2012, 02:32 AM

That is quite a deal you've had! The RG ROO is a fabulous timepiece and I'm in deep love with it! Congratulations and enjoy that beauty to the fullest, you have my benediction!

mb23 · 19 September 2012, 02:34 AM

Great choice no matter which way you ended up going, But I understand when something doesn't fit right it has to go...... I love the RGRC and Congrats again!

So take it from someone that was in your position a few months ago...... except my mind stayed confused and I did the next best thing....... :-)

cdnyc · 19 September 2012, 03:02 AM

Fantastic watch, and glad you got a happy outcome despite the turn of events.

h999r · 19 September 2012, 03:28 AM

Good choice ! Youi wont regret it, I own the same one and its always a keeper.

FremStar · 19 September 2012, 03:36 AM

;-) Subking that is why I did not post on your original incoming... The legacy is cool, however, is blah! Your RGRC on the other hand!!! YESSSS!!!! Everything is correct! Heck AP RG is turning out to be my personal favorite in terms of the RG color!

your latest acquisition! Wear it in good health!

SubKing · 19 September 2012, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb23

Great choice no matter which way you ended up going, But I understand when something doesn't fit right it has to go...... I love the RGRC and Congrats again!

So take it from someone that was in your position a few months ago...... except my mind stayed confused and I did the next best thing....... :-)

wow, you're one lucky guy! if I could get both, I would have!

SubKing · 19 September 2012, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FremStar

;-) Subking that is why I did not post on your original incoming... The legacy is cool, however, is blah! Your RGRC on the other hand!!! YESSSS!!!! Everything is correct! Heck AP RG is turning out to be my personal favorite in terms of the RG color!

your latest acquisition! Wear it in good health!

thank you and I will

also, IMHO the audemars legacy is amazing watch, but my entire family told me it does not look like a 47K watch, even with it being an audemars. I personally think the Legacy should have been more in the low 30's as far as price goes. 47k is a big price to pay for ceramic and only very tiny rose gold pieces. But I honestly still love the legacy just not an everyday watch at least for me.

The legacy was an H series and audemars could have put the inhouse movement in it, but instead they put the older movement in it which I could not understand?

ChristianN · 19 September 2012, 04:06 AM

Congratulations! I think this worked out better in the end, moneytary values aside. This just makes a lot more sense at the pricepoint then the Legacy.

Well done!

TSW · 19 September 2012, 04:28 AM

Fantastic turnout Jordan, The classic RC is amazing!!!

SubKing · 19 September 2012, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TSW

Fantastic turnout Jordan, The classic RC is amazing!!!

thanks thomas!

mb23 · 19 September 2012, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubKing

thank you and I will

also, IMHO the audemars legacy is amazing watch, but my entire family told me it does not look like a 47K watch, even with it being an audemars. I personally think the Legacy should have been more in the low 30's as far as price goes. 47k is a big price to pay for ceramic and only very tiny rose gold pieces. But I honestly still love the legacy just not an everyday watch at least for me.

The legacy was an H series and audemars could have put the inhouse movement in it, but instead they put the older movement in it which I could not understand?

I agree with all this.... The Legacy is awesome and in my opinion looks great on. But the price point was all wrong maybe a mid 30 watch i would even say below the GP FC price point. The finish is awesome though!

As always though, how many people are really buying at the 47k price?

ocwatching · 19 September 2012, 05:04 AM

Fantastic and glad that worked out...
I have always loved the RG on APROO
and the new dial layout is sweet!

Spanby200 · 19 September 2012, 05:10 AM

Great story, great ending, enjoy

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SubKing · 19 September 2012, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb23

I agree with all this.... The Legacy is awesome and in my opinion looks great on. But the price point was all wrong maybe a mid 30 watch i would even say below the GP FC price point. The finish is awesome though!

As always though, how many people are really buying at the 47k price?

Very true, but even at the 40k these seem to be listed at on the net still seems a bit high even after discounted. It was a light watch and ceramic tends to feel cheap and is really noticeable on a watch made entirely of it.. But the finish was awesome. Everything about it is excellent, I guess I wouldn't have any complaints if the watch was just cheaper.

B. Doggy · 19 September 2012, 07:43 AM

Sounds like you made the right decision for several reasons. Well done.

HL65 · 19 September 2012, 09:41 AM

Good for you Jordan--a good ending and a great watch! Congrats again...Cheers,

toph · 19 September 2012, 09:44 AM

The RG is 10 times nicer IMHO! You did very well
Enjoy
Cheers

h999r · 19 September 2012, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb23

I agree with all this.... The Legacy is awesome and in my opinion looks great on. But the price point was all wrong maybe a mid 30 watch i would even say below the GP FC price point. The finish is awesome though!

As always though, how many people are really buying at the 47k price?

Im totally agree with Michael .

Rolex Freak · 19 September 2012, 09:57 AM

Glad it worked out.

sleddog · 19 September 2012, 10:00 AM

What an accommodating AD you were working with Jordan...

Sorry to hear the Legacy didn't work out, but you certainly come home with another fine piece! Enjoy!

19 September 2012, 01:52 AM	#1
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	Houston We Have a BIG Problem!! So i'm sure many of you remember last week I had purchased an AP Legacy and posted several pictures of it. Well, over the weekend I was only wearing it around the house and because of it's HUGE 48mm size, the ceramic octagonal crown was digging into my wrist and hurt because of the sharp point. I could'nt screw down the crown anymore to change the angle and if I tried to unscrewed it a bit to change the angle of the crown and to make it not be so uncomfortable, i feared water would get in it and didn't want to take such a big risk with such a $$ watch. Another negative about the watch is, the "bullet proof strap" was starting to frey a bit, and i could only imagine what it would look like after a couple of months... also, the strap isn't waterproof because of the leather underside of the strap, so I could never swim with it or shower or anything.. it would be just a once in a while watch which I already own in my collection.. I really loved it so much, but these were things that hit me when I had it over the weekend... Then I started to think if this was the right choice I made? I put the watch back into the box so I could really think about it.. I decided I wanted to exchange the watch for something I would be getting more use out of due to the comfort.. So i went back to my local AP Ad and spoke with the owner, I told him my concern's and we are close friends so he didn’t mind me exchanging it. I had gave him an extra 500 bucks for a new strap for the legacy when I first purchased it so I could have an extra one on standby incase AP stopped making the straps one day, so since I had worn the strap that was on the legacy and it was no longer perfect as it had some creases, I told him to keep the money for the new strap and use the new strap to replace the strap I had worn over the weekend.. So he did an even exchange for me for the rosegold rubber clad ROO and keep in mind the RG Roo retail is 55,500.00 and the legacy is 47,200.00 so thats a big difference. It's a brand new H series with in-house movement new refreshed dial etc.. How could I go wrong for an even exchange for a watch thats more expensive by $8,300 bucks and I didn't pay full retail for the legacy to begin with, i got a pretty good discount for being a limited watch, but then an even better bang for my buck when I did the exchange. The owner is a great guy and he will have my biz for a very long time.. this is my 3rd AP that I have purchased from him.. I tried on the new 44mm ROOC and I love everything on it except for the dial, I am just inlove with the arabic numbers and won't give those up, so since it didn't sing to me I didn't go that route, and it wasn't about the price, because once im spending this much, what’s another couple grand for something if I really wanted it? I just love the classic size and look of the RG Roo RC 42mm. Here is a very interested fact I learned, even though the new 44mm RG RooC is 2 mm larger than the RG 42mm ROO RC, the Rubber clad RG has a couple more grams of gold than the 44mm... This is due to the new 44mm having a solid ceramic bezel and the rubberclad has a rubber bezel that has solid gold underneath the rubber. Also, the new 44mm has a exhibition case back and the 42mm RC has a solid one.. The owner had told me this as an interesting fact that he recently learned, so its good to know.. I will miss the legacy, it really was an amazing design and unique watch, just not practical for wearing because of how it felt and the fact they don't make a diving strap for it and i don't need any more unpractical watches. thanks for reading all and enjoy the pics of this classic AP!

19 September 2012, 01:57 AM	#2
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	That would have been my first choice for sure!!! Congrats on that absolute beauty of a watch...wow!!!!! Sorry to hear of the legacy issues but great how it worked out. Amazing discount __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

19 September 2012, 02:32 AM	#11
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	That is quite a deal you've had! The RG ROO is a fabulous timepiece and I'm in deep love with it! Congratulations and enjoy that beauty to the fullest, you have my benediction! __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

19 September 2012, 03:36 AM	#15
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	;-) Subking that is why I did not post on your original incoming... The legacy is cool, however, is blah! Your RGRC on the other hand!!! YESSSS!!!! Everything is correct! Heck AP RG is turning out to be my personal favorite in terms of the RG color! your latest acquisition! Wear it in good health! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

19 September 2012, 04:28 AM	#19
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Fantastic turnout Jordan, The classic RC is amazing!!! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

19 September 2012, 01:58 AM	#3
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Armen was nice to trade it back for you. Congrats on the RG!

19 September 2012, 02:01 AM	#6
yachty 1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ny Watch: yacht master Posts: 948	Congrats! Thank goodness he took it back.

19 September 2012, 02:15 AM	#8
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,946	You saw the light! I love the RGRC.

19 September 2012, 02:17 AM	#9
chinguel "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 188	Congrats. It's an amazing AP

19 September 2012, 02:21 AM	#10
Watchonisto Banned Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Alex Location: European Union Watch: AP, ROLEX, PP, PAM Posts: 4,344	Congrats and I'm glad you are happy with this one.

19 September 2012, 02:34 AM	#12
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	Great choice no matter which way you ended up going, But I understand when something doesn't fit right it has to go...... I love the RGRC and Congrats again! So take it from someone that was in your position a few months ago...... except my mind stayed confused and I did the next best thing....... :-)

19 September 2012, 03:02 AM	#13
cdnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Cory Location: NY Posts: 681	Fantastic watch, and glad you got a happy outcome despite the turn of events.

19 September 2012, 03:28 AM	#14
h999r Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: HR Location: Planet Earth Watch: -ing Barts. Posts: 4,244	Good choice ! Youi wont regret it, I own the same one and its always a keeper.

19 September 2012, 04:06 AM	#18
ChristianN Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 229	Congratulations! I think this worked out better in the end, moneytary values aside. This just makes a lot more sense at the pricepoint then the Legacy. Well done!

19 September 2012, 05:04 AM	#22
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	Fantastic and glad that worked out... I have always loved the RG on APROO and the new dial layout is sweet! __________________ too much into watches...

19 September 2012, 05:10 AM	#23
Spanby200 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: London Watch: AP Rolex Posts: 150	Great story, great ending, enjoy Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

19 September 2012, 07:43 AM	#25
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Sounds like you made the right decision for several reasons. Well done. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

19 September 2012, 09:41 AM	#26
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,206	Good for you Jordan--a good ending and a great watch! Congrats again...Cheers, __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

19 September 2012, 09:44 AM	#27
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	The RG is 10 times nicer IMHO! You did very well Enjoy Cheers __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

19 September 2012, 09:57 AM	#29
Rolex Freak "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Sandro Location: Canada Watch: Rolex/GS Posts: 4,412	Glad it worked out.

19 September 2012, 10:00 AM	#30
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2025 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,933	What an accommodating AD you were working with Jordan... Sorry to hear the Legacy didn't work out, but you certainly come home with another fine piece! Enjoy! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

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