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Old 7 November 2012, 07:51 AM   #1
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Crown logo up or down?

Why can't Rolex make crown when screwed to the case tight, with the head up or crown in the right position?
This is perfect,
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This is NOT perfect
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Old 7 November 2012, 07:53 AM   #2
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Do a search and you'll find a couple of hundred threads on this subject.
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Old 8 November 2012, 02:46 AM   #3
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The short answer is even if the crown was perfectly aligned when the watch was new it would not stay that way.

As the crown gasket is compressed from normal use it allows the crown to screw further and further down, changing its seated position.
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Old 8 November 2012, 02:53 AM   #4
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Why does it matter s o much? No one can see the orientation when I'm wearing it... including me!
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Old 8 November 2012, 03:02 AM   #5
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None of my crowns line up, like none of my centre cap logos on my car wheels point in the same direction.

Some things are just meant to annoy you but nobody else cares.

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Old 8 November 2012, 03:09 AM   #6
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They are mostly widely available watches. Just look for one as you like. Easy peasy.
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Old 8 November 2012, 04:47 AM   #7
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Why does it matter s o much? No one can see the orientation when I'm wearing it... including me!
Have to agree Rolex have now stopped making very fine long lasting accurate watches they now only make alignment points.
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Old 8 November 2012, 05:12 AM   #8
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i kind of have to agree with OP. i have (had) "lesser" watch brands. (that is a subjective term i guess) that the crown lined up perfect when new and for a long time after.
omega, oris, to name a few.. so i guess it does seem kinda weird that a company making such "high end" in house pieces wouldnt adress this small detail like they do on all the other aspects of the watch.. i personally dont care that much, just an interesting "flaw" to find on such an expensive piece....
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Old 8 November 2012, 06:13 AM   #9
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Old 8 November 2012, 06:40 AM   #10
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Every time the crown is unscrewed and re-screwed on it wears the top of the case tube a little and over time when more of the top of the case tube is worn then the crown won't line up any longer. Plus if the watch has been serviced by Rolex the original case tube is replaced no mater how good it still looks because the tubes have to be removed for case polishing and when removed are usually damaged. Rolex can't guarantee the new case tube to seat like the original did, so the crown won't seat down perfect on every watch.

Plus the best way to guarantee the watch to test waterproof is to replace these parts. Crystal/crystal gasket, if a new model replace the bezel gasket, crown and case tube, back gasket.
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Old 8 November 2012, 07:02 AM   #11
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i have to agree, if it lines up at one point in time, it wont in 6 months, i personally don't worry aboout these things
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Old 8 November 2012, 07:24 AM   #12
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The second pic looks perfect to me. As long as the crown keeps moisture out, it's perfect.
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Old 8 November 2012, 09:01 AM   #13
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Here ya go, guaranteed to line it up:
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Old 8 November 2012, 09:03 AM   #14
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It is now proved beyond doubt that crown is not straight
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Old 8 November 2012, 09:12 AM   #15
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The crown on my Omega is in the right position. But that is not a screw-in. ;)

all said on the Rolex subject.
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Old 8 November 2012, 02:33 PM   #16
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From what Ive read, viewed and searched.. the majority of pics, that show the crown in the 'perfect' position..are for promotional pics only.
Don't know if any owners have their crown sit at that 'perfect, picture perfect' setting!!
I'm not worried about it..!
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Old 8 November 2012, 05:49 PM   #17
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I'm lucky. My Subdate has a perfectly straight crown up when it's screwed down
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Old 8 November 2012, 08:08 PM   #18
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i kind of have to agree with OP. i have (had) "lesser" watch brands. (that is a subjective term i guess) that the crown lined up perfect when new and for a long time after.
omega, oris, to name a few.. so i guess it does seem kinda weird that a company making such "high end" in house pieces wouldnt adress this small detail like they do on all the other aspects of the watch.. i personally dont care that much, just an interesting "flaw" to find on such an expensive piece....
But that depends how the crown and stem seals are constructed on other brands.At one time Rolex was the only brand to state there watches were water proof instead or water resistant which is the norm today.Myself don't care where the emblem brand lines up because its only mostly in photo shoots and marketing this happens.As long as the crown functions for winding and setting the time and date, and screwing back down just finger tight thats all that matters.Its not like you are going to show and tell the world, hey look here my crown emblem is perfectly lined up thats if it has to line up with anything in the first place.
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Old 8 November 2012, 11:05 PM   #19
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Old 8 November 2012, 11:39 PM   #20
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/\ I concur.. but I can appreciate a newbe asking.. I searched a fair bit.. to come to similar conclusions...!!
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Old 10 November 2012, 08:47 AM   #22
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None of my crowns line up, like none of my centre cap logos on my car wheels point in the same direction.

Some things are just meant to annoy you but nobody else cares.

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You need to get a Rolls Royce; LOVE those spinner logo caps!
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Old 10 November 2012, 08:50 AM   #23
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Every time the crown is unscrewed and re-screwed on it wears the top of the case tube a little and over time when more of the top of the case tube is worn then the crown won't line up any longer. Plus if the watch has been serviced by Rolex the original case tube is replaced no mater how good it still looks because the tubes have to be removed for case polishing and when removed are usually damaged. Rolex can't guarantee the new case tube to seat like the original did, so the crown won't seat down perfect on every watch.

Plus the best way to guarantee the watch to test waterproof is to replace these parts. Crystal/crystal gasket, if a new model replace the bezel gasket, crown and case tube, back gasket.
No.

The crown seats on a gasket. The change of position is due to the gasket being compressed more and more.

There should never be metal to metal contact, otherwise the water resistance will be lost.
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Old 11 November 2012, 01:43 AM   #24
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Guess I got lucky mine is a tad to the left when looking straight at it, maybe just enough to make it allign perfect when the gasket wears some.
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Guess I got lucky mine is a tad to the left when looking straight at it, maybe just enough to make it allign perfect when the gasket wears some.
Cannot see why to think you were lucky its a winding crown meant to be turned. And myself cannot see anywhere where it states the crown emblem has to line up with anything only in brochures etc. And who is ever going to look at the winding crown while on the wrist.Perhaps Rolex should get rid of the emblem then everyone's crown should line up somewhere.
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Old 11 November 2012, 04:37 AM   #26
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But that depends how the crown and stem seals are constructed on other brands.At one time Rolex was the only brand to state there watches were water proof instead or water resistant which is the norm today.Myself don't care where the emblem brand lines up because its only mostly in photo shoots and marketing this happens.As long as the crown functions for winding and setting the time and date, and screwing back down just finger tight thats all that matters.Its not like you are going to show and tell the world, hey look here my crown emblem is perfectly lined up thats if it has to line up with anything in the first place.
it wouldnt stop me from buying any watch brand,, just something to point out... :) even the most wis usually wont care or spot....
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No.

The crown seats on a gasket. The change of position is due to the gasket being compressed more and more.

There should never be metal to metal contact, otherwise the water resistance will be lost.
I stand corrected on that point, but it's still a fact that Rolex rips every case tube out and throws them away when the watch is sent in for servicing. I remove them as well but I try my best not to damage them and keep them in case it comes to a point you can't get them any longer.
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.Perhaps Rolex should get rid of the emblem then everyone's crown should line up somewhere.
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It's a perfectly legitimate question by the op especially since as padi says they are photographed and advertised that way. So naturally there is an expectation that the watch should be that way. Whether or not its possible, desirable the question besides some clap trap about gaskets has not been answered. Given other's observations about watch brands whose logo does line up- perhaps they employ a differently engineered system of a winding crown? Is it inferior or superior to rolexes? Or maybe there is another set of concerns in building a crown into a watch? I would venture to guess its done this way for a reason it's not like Rolex hasn't thought about it. Would be interesting to know...
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