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walds11 · 11 November 2012, 11:10 PM

Are they the same? I am more interested in the case thickness. Is the 114060 case thinner than the 116610 case because of lack of date function (ie, 14060M case vs. 16610 case)? What about the weight difference?

superdog · 11 November 2012, 11:16 PM

Hmmm, I'm curious now after reading this.

I would think they are the same, but don't know for sure.

padi56 · 11 November 2012, 11:27 PM

The same size now and cannot see what the point is if there is any weight difference if there is we are talking about one or two grams. .

Johny · 12 November 2012, 12:32 AM

are the dials, bezels and inserts on both watches also the same size now?

Tools · 12 November 2012, 01:39 AM

I have not waded into these discussions before because I simply do not know..

The old 14060 and 16610 had very little in common, were different sizes, and almost none of the parts interchanged..

A couple of folks have posted photos of the 114060 and 116610 and declared "They're the same", but it takes more than that to convince me.. I want to see measurements and decent research of them both together.

I think that it would be pretty poor engineering on Rolex part if they simply dumped in the non-date movement; slapped on a non-cyclops crystal and called it done.. but it's possible - that's how we ended up with the LV version.

AK797 · 12 November 2012, 07:27 AM

I heard the cases are not exactly the same.

walds11 · 12 November 2012, 07:33 AM

Yea or no? I'd like to see exact case measurements.

SPACE-DWELLER · 12 November 2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aksingh

I heard the cases are not exactly the same.

That'll convince Larry...

padi56 · 12 November 2012, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

I have not waded into these discussions before because I simply do not know..

The old 14060 and 16610 had very little in common, were different sizes, and almost none of the parts interchanged..

A couple of folks have posted photos of the 114060 and 116610 and declared "They're the same", but it takes more than that to convince me.. I want to see measurements and decent research of them both together.

I think that it would be pretty poor engineering on Rolex part if they simply dumped in the non-date movement; slapped on a non-cyclops crystal and called it done.. but it's possible - that's how we ended up with the LV version.

Well I would say it was clever engineering with Rolex it makes perfect sense to have one case ring for several models.And the cyclops is just stuck on so again makes sense to use same crystal on all subs.But I am only going on the pictures they do look the same case as the date sub and W/R is the same.

AK797 · 13 November 2012, 03:27 AM

OK I have it on good authority from someone who knows someone who has to know the exact dimensions of both watches because of what he does for a living if you know what I mean, cant say anymore obviously... that they are not exactly the same.

Rashid.bk · 13 November 2012, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by aksingh

OK I have it on good authority from someone who knows someone who has to know the exact dimensions of both watches because of what he does for a living if you know what I mean, cant say anymore obviously... that they are not exactly the same.

what does he do for a living....the CIA watch making department.

McLovin · 13 November 2012, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aksingh

OK I have it on good authority from someone who knows someone who has to know the exact dimensions of both watches because of what he does for a living if you know what I mean, cant say anymore obviously... that they are not exactly the same.

nudge, nudge. wink, wink. say no more.

Roley · 13 November 2012, 03:56 AM

116610 vs. 114060 ... I compared the two last week at my local AD…and with the naked eye the 114060 did look thinner, however I could be wrong.

Would be nice to get a vernier caliper on that 114060 case, but I guess I can wait for the Rolex specifications.

11 November 2012, 11:10 PM	#1
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,658	116610 vs. 114060 case dimensions Are they the same? I am more interested in the case thickness. Is the 114060 case thinner than the 116610 case because of lack of date function (ie, 14060M case vs. 16610 case)? What about the weight difference? __________________ Adam

11 November 2012, 11:16 PM	#2
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,827	Hmmm, I'm curious now after reading this. I would think they are the same, but don't know for sure. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

11 November 2012, 11:27 PM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,031	The same size now and cannot see what the point is if there is any weight difference if there is we are talking about one or two grams. . __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

12 November 2012, 12:32 AM	#4
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	are the dials, bezels and inserts on both watches also the same size now? __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

12 November 2012, 01:39 AM	#5
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,494	I have not waded into these discussions before because I simply do not know.. The old 14060 and 16610 had very little in common, were different sizes, and almost none of the parts interchanged.. A couple of folks have posted photos of the 114060 and 116610 and declared "They're the same", but it takes more than that to convince me.. I want to see measurements and decent research of them both together. I think that it would be pretty poor engineering on Rolex part if they simply dumped in the non-date movement; slapped on a non-cyclops crystal and called it done.. but it's possible - that's how we ended up with the LV version. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

12 November 2012, 07:27 AM	#6
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	I heard the cases are not exactly the same.

12 November 2012, 07:33 AM	#7
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,658	Yea or no? I'd like to see exact case measurements. __________________ Adam

13 November 2012, 03:27 AM	#10
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	OK I have it on good authority from someone who knows someone who has to know the exact dimensions of both watches because of what he does for a living if you know what I mean, cant say anymore obviously... that they are not exactly the same.

13 November 2012, 03:56 AM	#13
Roley "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Roland Location: GMT -4:00 Today Watch: Enthusiast Posts: 874	116610 vs. 114060 ... I compared the two last week at my local AD…and with the naked eye the 114060 did look thinner, however I could be wrong. Would be nice to get a vernier caliper on that 114060 case, but I guess I can wait for the Rolex specifications.

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