Where is my serial number (New GMT Master)

[SteveNWNorth]

Hi,

Please help.

I recently bought a GMT Master II from a dealer (who gets them from an AD).

I took it to the local Jewellers to get the strap adjusted, but whilst he was there I asked him to take off the strap and check the serial number.

Whilst under the strap at the 6 oclock position there were the words 'stainless steel', there was no evidence of a serial number ever having been there.

The dealer is saying that you need to take the case off to see the serial number now. Is this true? Should there be a number on the outside of the case?

Many thanks,
Steve.

[padi56]

All recent new Rolex all the serials now are on the inner dial rehaut flange ring at the six O'clock position and not between lugs and can be viewed by just looking through the watch crystal.

[mannyv11]

Yup padi summed it up.

[financeman]

It never stops amazing me how people spend so much money on a watch and dont know a thing about it. Then when something may not be right, they start asking all these questions that probably should have been asked to begin with.
Padi summed it up though. The new watches all have the serial number under the rehaut ring.

[Darlinboy]

Rehaute?

Rolex is haute already why redo it?

[Grey.Coupe]

Your dealer should do some studying if he/she is going to continue to profit selling Rolex watches...

[legend9999]

Originally Posted by Grey.Coupe

Your dealer should do some studying if he/she is going to continue to profit selling Rolex watches...

x2

its worrying that your giving these people that sort of money and they don't even know the basics

[Welshwatchman]

A new GMT Master would have to be a 116710 (or 713/718).

The serial number will be here:

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[scarab007]

Originally Posted by financeman

It never stops amazing me how people spend so much money on a watch and dont know a thing about it. Then when something may not be right, they start asking all these questions that probably should have been asked to begin with.
Padi summed it up though. The new watches all have the serial number under the rehaut ring.

x1 exactly. Learn about your watches and get some knowledge. Funny the guy putting the strap on did not know as well.

[scarab007]

Originally Posted by Grey.Coupe

Your dealer should do some studying if he/she is going to continue to profit selling Rolex watches...

x3

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by padi56

All recent new Rolex all the serials now are on the inner dial rehaut flange ring at the six O'clock position and not between lugs and can be viewed by just looking through the watch crystal.

[Camel]

Originally Posted by financeman

It never stops amazing me how people spend so much money on a watch and dont know a thing about it. Then when something may not be right, they start asking all these questions that probably should have been asked to begin with.
Padi summed it up though. The new watches all have the serial number under the rehaut ring.

x2

[T. Ferguson]

While it's inexcusable that the AD (if it was an AD) wouldn't know where the serial number is located, aren't you guys being a little harsh on the OP and new member? Some people just aren't into it to the extent others of us are. Heck, how many of us know exactly where the serial number is located on our big expensive 60" HD TV? It's a Rolex after all. That's all some people need to know to be comfortable laying out price of ownership. Is knowing where the serial number is located a prerequisite to making an intelligent decision to buy a Rolex? Besides, he apparently knew where it was located on the previous model and was simply not aware they moved it. I find it a bit comical that some can't believe a person wouldn't know the location of the serial number but couldn't care less that the watch runs 6 seconds a day fast.

SteveNWNorth, welcome to the forum and enjoy your new watch. The Rolex GMT is one of the world's great and iconic timepieces.

Do have a question though. You mentioned the strap a couple of times. That terminology is usually used in reference to leather, rubber, nylon etc. A new complete GMT should actually come with a metal band normally referred to as a bracelet. Just wanted to make sure if your watch didn't come with one that it was reflected in the price.

[Mickey®]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

While it's inexcusable that the AD (if it was an AD) wouldn't know where the serial number is located, aren't you guys being a little harsh on the OP and new member?

SteveNWNorth, welcome to the forum and enjoy your new watch. The Rolex GMT is one of the world's great and iconic timepieces.
.

Welcome SteveNWNorth....BUT "PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN"!

[mrbill2mrbill2]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

While it's inexcusable that the AD (if it was an AD) wouldn't know where the serial number is located, aren't you guys being a little harsh on the OP and new member? Some people just aren't into it to the extent others of us are. Heck, how many of us know exactly where the serial number is located on our big expensive 60" HD TV? It's a Rolex after all. That's all some people need to know to be comfortable laying out price of ownership. Is knowing where the serial number is located a prerequisite to making an intelligent decision to buy a Rolex? Besides, he apparently knew where it was located on the previous model and was simply not aware they moved it. I find it a bit comical that some can't believe a person wouldn't know the location of the serial number but couldn't care less that the watch runs 6 seconds a day fast.

SteveNWNorth, welcome to the forum and enjoy your new watch. The Rolex GMT is one of the world's great and iconic timepieces.

Do have a question though. You mentioned the strap a couple of times. That terminology is usually used in reference to leather, rubber, nylon etc. A new complete GMT should actually come with a metal band normally referred to as a bracelet. Just wanted to make sure if your watch didn't come with one that it was reflected in the price.

x2!

Well stated - I could not agree more.

[Andad]

Nice choice Steve.

Welcome to the Forum.

[gpo1956]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

While it's inexcusable that the AD (if it was an AD) wouldn't know where the serial number is located, aren't you guys being a little harsh on the OP and new member? Some people just aren't into it to the extent others of us are. Heck, how many of us know exactly where the serial number is located on our big expensive 60" HD TV? It's a Rolex after all. That's all some people need to know to be comfortable laying out price of ownership. Is knowing where the serial number is located a prerequisite to making an intelligent decision to buy a Rolex? Besides, he apparently knew where it was located on the previous model and was simply not aware they moved it. I find it a bit comical that some can't believe a person wouldn't know the location of the serial number but couldn't care less that the watch runs 6 seconds a day fast.

SteveNWNorth, welcome to the forum and enjoy your new watch. The Rolex GMT is one of the world's great and iconic timepieces.

Do have a question though. You mentioned the strap a couple of times. That terminology is usually used in reference to leather, rubber, nylon etc. A new complete GMT should actually come with a metal band normally referred to as a bracelet. Just wanted to make sure if your watch didn't come with one that it was reflected in the price.

Wow. What a mature post. Could not agree more. You da man!! The arrogance on here is sometimes a little too hard to take.

[patek.wis]

I was surprised at the responses.

He was coming here to GET educated.

Wow.

[Onikage]

Nice choice OP. Some members take details for granted...

[jolimont]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

While it's inexcusable that the AD (if it was an AD) wouldn't know where the serial number is located, aren't you guys being a little harsh on the OP and new member? Some people just aren't into it to the extent others of us are. Heck, how many of us know exactly where the serial number is located on our big expensive 60" HD TV? It's a Rolex after all.

i agree

[AF_Rob]

Originally Posted by gpo1956

Wow. What a mature post. Could not agree more. You da man!! The arrogance on here is sometimes a little too hard to take.

Concur. No new member should be chastized like that for asking a question. Not very respectful.

[outlaw468]

Originally Posted by patek.wis

I was surprised at the responses.

He was coming here to GET educated.

Wow.

+1. Tough crowd here sometimes.

[77T]

Originally Posted by patek.wis

I was surprised at the responses.

He was coming here to GET educated.

Wow.

I chalk it up to Post-Apocolypse Deprivation Irregularity...ummm that spells PADI!
It's PADI's fault - he started it first!!!



OP: Congrats on the new Rolex and welcome to TRF!

[ReMember]

Originally Posted by patek.wis

I was surprised at the responses.

He was coming here to GET educated.

Wow.

X1. Yup, having a rolex gets in some peoples' head. They become arrogant and feel they know everything. SAD!

[financeman]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

While it's inexcusable that the AD (if it was an AD) wouldn't know where the serial number is located, aren't you guys being a little harsh on the OP and new member? Some people just aren't into it to the extent others of us are. Heck, how many of us know exactly where the serial number is located on our big expensive 60" HD TV? It's a Rolex after all. That's all some people need to know to be comfortable laying out price of ownership. Is knowing where the serial number is located a prerequisite to making an intelligent decision to buy a Rolex? Besides, he apparently knew where it was located on the previous model and was simply not aware they moved it. I find it a bit comical that some can't believe a person wouldn't know the location of the serial number but couldn't care less that the watch runs 6 seconds a day fast.

I think my post was taken the wrong way so I wanted to clarify. I was not giving the hard time for not knowing where the serial number was on the watch. There are a ton of people out there who buy a rolex for the brand name ansd could care less anything about the internal workings or anything like that. This happens all the time and is fine. There is othing wrong with that. Then there are people like us who collect watches who have to know everything about the watch they own and continue learning about the brand and changes everyday.
Either buyer is great becasue all it does is help the value and how the brand is recognized.
My point to saying that I did not understand how people continue to buy a Rolex and ask questions later was talking about him buying it from a non-AD where there is a possibility it could be fake. I would have never made that post if he bought it here froma trusted seller or bought it from an AD who guarnteed authenticity.
You could tell he was a little worried that the watch was real which is why he posed the question here to us. I was simply saying to all that is just amazes me how people will buy a watch that is as expensive as a Rolex is when there is a chance that they could get scammed and not do the research first to make sure that they are getting what they should be. By no means was I infurring that any new Rolex owner should know every tiny detail about a watch before purchase.
My wife still thinks I am a little nuts on how I read and look at the same type of watch over and over. She just does not get my passion but she still thinks that they are great wathces.
Our hobby needs both type of buyers, ones like us who keep the history going and the ones who buy for the name to keep the brand name going and the value of our wathces where it should be.
Again, I did not want anyone to think I was giving the OP a hard time because that was not my goal. I always welcome knew members and encourage them to ask us there questions. I just wanted to get the point accross to the next person on here who may be in the same position of buying a preowned watch from a source where they could get ripped off to just ask questions first and make sure they are getting what they think they are getting. Just because you buy at a brick and mortar jewelry store does not mean you will always get what you bargained for.
I hope I explained myself better and everyone understands what my original intentions where.
Sorry for the long post and again, congrats to the OP on the new watch. post up some wrist shots when you can.

[T. Ferguson]

Financeman, I understand what you're saying. Personally I didn't get that the OP was concerned about the authenticity unless perhaps only after the serial wasn't where he thought it was supposed to be - then maybe he became concerned. I mean he didn't expressly question the authenticity nor post a picture. But admittedly, the frown smiley may have suggested to you that he was suspicious.

But that's neither here nor there, we all interpret things differently and I appreciate that you read it in a different way. I confess that I myself always wonder if a thread is going in that direction when it starts "Got this on Ebay..." LOL.

I know less about Rolex than some of you have forgot, and do appreciate your contributions to this forum. It has been a tremendous help to me, including pointing me in the right direction about who to buy from.

Happy Holidays to you and yours and joy to TRF!!!

[financeman]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

Financeman, I understand what you're saying. Personally I didn't get that the OP was concerned about the authenticity unless perhaps only after the serial wasn't where he thought it was supposed to be - then maybe he became concerned. I mean he didn't expressly question the authenticity nor post a picture. But admittedly, the frown smiley may have suggested to you that he was suspicious.

But that's neither here nor there, we all interpret things differently and I appreciate that you read it in a different way. I confess that I myself always wonder if a thread is going in that direction when it starts "Got this on Ebay..." LOL.

I know less about Rolex than some of you have forgot, and do appreciate your contributions to this forum. It has been a tremendous help to me, including pointing me in the right direction about who to buy from.

Happy Holidays to you and yours and joy to TRF!!!

Everything is good my friend.
I just wanted to make sure people did not think of me chastising him for not knowing where the serial was. The only problem with communicating on a open forum by typing is you can not see what the intentions are behind the print in a lot of cases. That is why I wanted to explain.
I am still learning the same as you but I do agree that there are people here that are experts in all things rolex. It is a very friendly community and most people dont mind sharing there knowledge.
Thanks for responding and I hope everyone here has a Merry Christmas as well.

[SteveNWNorth]

Some back ground. I bought it new. It was from an online company that orders watches in from an AD (and gets an unofficial discount). So my new GMT was £5000 rather than the £5600 from the local AD. OK, maybe I was wrong to try and cut corners....but the watch purchase research started years ago (looking at a £600 Longines)...and two years later was at Omega PO...but then I decided seeing as this is a once in a lifetime purchase, I wanted to stretch to a Rolex (but knew that going over 5k would cause a divorce). I hadn't tried one on or even gone into an AD because I didn't want to lead a sales person on....but am here now, and am happy.

Thanks for your responses, I accept any critisism as I probably slightly deserve it.

.... those PCL scratch bloody easily - I can see it won't be a once in a lifetime purchase cos I'll end up trading it in for a brushed sub-c

[SteveNWNorth]

Forgot to say, the serial number is where you described, and matches the card in the box!

(did I say before, the scratches on the PCL are sooo easy to do! - it is impossible to keep it mint)

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by SteveNWNorth

Forgot to say, the serial number is where you described, and matches the card in the box!

(did I say before, the scratches on the PCL are sooo easy to do! - it is impossible to keep it mint)

Yeah, I think even a starched cuff will do it, lol! You can always get them brushed. Don't know how it is in the UK but in the USA I think Rolex will insist on polishing them if you send the bracelet in with the watch when servicing.

But my advice is to just enjoy the watch and have it polished back up at service. Few people will notice the scratches.