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DynamiteBids · 29 January 2013, 11:30 AM

Well, I was walking through JC Penny with my wife the other day and I spot what appears to be a skeleton watch with an automatic movement. So I ask the lady behind the counter if it was an automatic (expecting the usual "auto-what?" response) and she said "yes it is". I was dumbfounded because even mall-grade jewelers like JBR and Kay typically don't sell watches with automatic movements, let alone a department store. The closest mall store competitor would be the $300 Bulova Men's 96A109. Well I ask to see it and the tag price was $60! I examine it thoroughly and was impressed at the quality of the design and movement for the money. It looked more like a $300+ watch. The movement finishing touches were well above sub-par or even average; it is surprisingly good actually. Blue anodized screws, polished components, etched design marks, and a concerted effort to make much of the movement exposed through the front and exhibition case-back crystal. The movement looks prettier than some luxury movements. (Puts the original Panerai Brookland Bridge movement to shame, but then again, anything does

) All in a polished SS case with a unique, stepped dial design that makes the face appear larger than it really is. The caseback is etched with a 50 meters / 165ft water resistance claim. The strap is embossed leather, a little on the thin side, but decent with plenty of adjustment holes. And get this, it comes with a 12 year warranty! ($10 shipping charge) But you really wouldn't even need the warranty because JCP has a lifetime return policy as long as you keep the receipt and tag.

Well needless to say, I bought it. It seems to be keeping good time, within 5 to 10 seconds per day, and has a reserve of 38 hours. The advantage of the skeleton movement is that you can see the exposed spring barrel and can tell roughly how much reserve is left. Details on the movement are unknown but it is shared with other more expensive brands. It seems to be a variation of the common Seagull automatic movement, which is a Chinese clone of an ETA design. One great feature is it has a hacking second hand when adjusting the time, not commonly found on cheap movements. I would say the weakest point of the watch is the horrible lume. It only gives a couple minutes of glow on a typical charge. The watch came with a nice tin can case that could very well be used to display it.

So this is not your typical watch review but I thought it was worth a look nonetheless. This Relic very well could be the most affordable automatic available (legally) in the US. If your Rolex’s are like your cars and are garage queens (or winder queens), this would make a unique daily beater that will get stares and compliments for next to nothing.

Pros:

Unique skeleton design

Nice movement details

Hacking second hand

Good weight and feel

Excellent price point / Most affordable automatic

Great warranty and return policy

Cons:

Lackluster lume

Semi-thin strap

Harder to quickly read hands

asadtiger · 29 January 2013, 06:03 PM

it is a pretty unusual deal if it has a good working movt. in that price range..one should wear what works well and makes him happy

Psmith · 29 January 2013, 06:19 PM

Can't argue with that value... or warranty period!

andromeda160 · 31 January 2013, 06:00 AM

pretty neat watch. i'd wear it... costs less than half of the sales tax on my watch

oymd · 1 February 2013, 09:53 PM

nice..congrats on an interesting watch

DynamiteBids · 3 February 2013, 07:47 AM

After a week of ownership, I've gotten more compliments on this thing than my Rolex's!

andromeda160 · 15 March 2013, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DynamiteBids

After a week of ownership, I've gotten more compliments on this thing than my Rolex's!

lol most fashion watches do, I've had more compliments on my $75 G-shock than i've ever had my rolex.

francis · 15 March 2013, 05:09 AM

Just type "automatic watch" in Ebay... You will find a huge variety of watches like the Relic and in most cases, much cheaper than 60 bucks.
Nice watch!

Maxtor · 15 March 2013, 11:00 AM

Can't beat that price. Not sure it would get much wrist time though.

jatco · 15 March 2013, 12:10 PM

...interesting to say the least.. Good find, IMO....!!
Enjoy .., Im sure I would..!

cruvon · 1 May 2013, 01:51 PM

Wow, amazing value and looks too, nice writeup. Wonder what it would cost to service it, that's surely not part of the warranty?

wingku · 1 May 2013, 02:23 PM

The service cost would be $60 to buy an identical one to replace it! :)

29 January 2013, 11:30 AM	#1
DynamiteBids Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: The Man Location: USA Watch: 116613LN Posts: 162	Relic ZR77224 - SS Automatic - $60! - Full Review Well, I was walking through JC Penny with my wife the other day and I spot what appears to be a skeleton watch with an automatic movement. So I ask the lady behind the counter if it was an automatic (expecting the usual "auto-what?" response) and she said "yes it is". I was dumbfounded because even mall-grade jewelers like JBR and Kay typically don't sell watches with automatic movements, let alone a department store. The closest mall store competitor would be the $300 Bulova Men's 96A109. Well I ask to see it and the tag price was $60! I examine it thoroughly and was impressed at the quality of the design and movement for the money. It looked more like a $300+ watch. The movement finishing touches were well above sub-par or even average; it is surprisingly good actually. Blue anodized screws, polished components, etched design marks, and a concerted effort to make much of the movement exposed through the front and exhibition case-back crystal. The movement looks prettier than some luxury movements. (Puts the original Panerai Brookland Bridge movement to shame, but then again, anything does ) All in a polished SS case with a unique, stepped dial design that makes the face appear larger than it really is. The caseback is etched with a 50 meters / 165ft water resistance claim. The strap is embossed leather, a little on the thin side, but decent with plenty of adjustment holes. And get this, it comes with a 12 year warranty! ($10 shipping charge) But you really wouldn't even need the warranty because JCP has a lifetime return policy as long as you keep the receipt and tag. Well needless to say, I bought it. It seems to be keeping good time, within 5 to 10 seconds per day, and has a reserve of 38 hours. The advantage of the skeleton movement is that you can see the exposed spring barrel and can tell roughly how much reserve is left. Details on the movement are unknown but it is shared with other more expensive brands. It seems to be a variation of the common Seagull automatic movement, which is a Chinese clone of an ETA design. One great feature is it has a hacking second hand when adjusting the time, not commonly found on cheap movements. I would say the weakest point of the watch is the horrible lume. It only gives a couple minutes of glow on a typical charge. The watch came with a nice tin can case that could very well be used to display it. So this is not your typical watch review but I thought it was worth a look nonetheless. This Relic very well could be the most affordable automatic available (legally) in the US. If your Rolex’s are like your cars and are garage queens (or winder queens), this would make a unique daily beater that will get stares and compliments for next to nothing. Pros: Unique skeleton design Nice movement details Hacking second hand Good weight and feel Excellent price point / Most affordable automatic Great warranty and return policy Cons: Lackluster lume Semi-thin strap Harder to quickly read hands

29 January 2013, 06:19 PM	#3
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Can't argue with that value... or warranty period! __________________

15 March 2013, 05:09 AM	#8
francis "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: a few places Watch: Datejust Posts: 796	Just type "automatic watch" in Ebay... You will find a huge variety of watches like the Relic and in most cases, much cheaper than 60 bucks. Nice watch! Last edited by francis; 15 March 2013 at 05:11 AM.. Reason: spelling

15 March 2013, 12:10 PM	#10
jatco 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 50,389	...interesting to say the least.. Good find, IMO....!! Enjoy .., Im sure I would..! __________________ . ..- ' A Crown for every achievement '

1 May 2013, 01:51 PM	#11
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	Wow, amazing value and looks too, nice writeup. Wonder what it would cost to service it, that's surely not part of the warranty? __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

29 January 2013, 06:03 PM	#2
asadtiger "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Asad A. Awan Location: kabul, Afghanista Watch: Tissot PRX Posts: 2,698	it is a pretty unusual deal if it has a good working movt. in that price range..one should wear what works well and makes him happy

31 January 2013, 06:00 AM	#4
andromeda160 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Greg Location: michigan Watch: Rolex Oyster Posts: 4,046	pretty neat watch. i'd wear it... costs less than half of the sales tax on my watch

1 February 2013, 09:53 PM	#5
oymd "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 19	nice..congrats on an interesting watch

3 February 2013, 07:47 AM	#6
DynamiteBids Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: The Man Location: USA Watch: 116613LN Posts: 162	After a week of ownership, I've gotten more compliments on this thing than my Rolex's!

15 March 2013, 11:00 AM	#9
Maxtor 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Max Location: Toronto Watch: Exp 1, DJ Tuxedo Posts: 2,469	Can't beat that price. Not sure it would get much wrist time though.

1 May 2013, 02:23 PM	#12
wingku "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Wing Location: Calgary,AB,Canada Watch: the World unfold Posts: 1,019	The service cost would be $60 to buy an identical one to replace it! :)

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