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Lubrifar · 13 December 2007, 04:40 AM

Hello. Aside from the obvious, can you please advise the difference between the two models? I want to know everything please. Thanks.

JJ Irani · 13 December 2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lubrifar

Hello. Aside from the obvious, can you please advise the difference between the two models? I want to know everything please. Thanks.

Except for the FIXED bezel in the Exp-II, all else is the same, including the 3185 movment.

Ah yes, another small difference - the Exp-II is 39 mm as opposed to the 40 mm of the GMT-II.

JJ

Jocke · 13 December 2007, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Except for the FIXED bezel in the Exp-II, all else is the same, including the 3185 movment.

Ah yes, another small difference - the Exp-II is 39 mm as opposed to the 40 mm of the GMT-II.

JJ

I´ve heard the new GMT have Cal 3186, correct?

Jocke

JJ Irani · 13 December 2007, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

I´ve heard the new GMT have Cal 3186, correct?

Jocke

I think he was referring to the older GMT-II, tosser!!

Lubrifar · 13 December 2007, 04:47 AM

Yes, older model, not GMTIIc.

How about crown, thickest, 24hr hand setting, bracelet, etc?

Jocke · 13 December 2007, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I think he was referring to the older GMT-II, tosser!!

Here we don´t think Tosser.

So just tell the guy all differences between a ExpII and a GMTIIc.

Jocke

Lubrifar · 13 December 2007, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Here we don´t think Tosser.

So just tell the guy all differences between a ExpII and a GMTIIc.

Jocke

C'mon Jocke, I know you have a wealth of info, please cut the jokes and share?

JJ Irani · 13 December 2007, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lubrifar

C'mon Jocke, I know you have a wealth of info, please cut the jokes and share?

The info I've given you above is for the older GMT-II compared with the Exp-II. I think that's pretty spot on!!

Lubrifar · 13 December 2007, 05:00 AM

So both GMTII (not C) and ExpII have double lock, and setting the 24hr is the same? How about bracelet, link, and clasp, all the same?

And thank you JJ!

JJ Irani · 13 December 2007, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lubrifar

So both GMTII (not C) and ExpII have double lock, and setting the 24hr is the same? How about bracelet, link, and clasp, all the same?

And thank you JJ!

Yes, all else identical - same OYSTERLOCK bracelet with 13 original links, same everything, same system of setting the independently movable hour hand, same clasp - all identical, except for the fixed bezel and case diameter.

JJ

doc_colton · 13 December 2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yes, all else identical - same OYSTERLOCK bracelet with 13 original links, same everything, same system of setting the independently movable hour hand, same clasp - all identical, except for the fixed bezel and case diameter.

JJ

Sorry, I know this is off topic but how many links, excluding the extention link and end pieces, should come with an oyster flip-lock bracelet on a Submariner?

Mrdi · 13 December 2007, 05:21 AM

AND
the bezel diameter is the 1mm difference in the width, not the dial.

JJ Irani · 13 December 2007, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by doc_colton

Sorry, I know this is off topic but how many links, excluding the extention link and end pieces, should come with an oyster flip-lock bracelet on a Submariner?

9 all up on the '12' side and 4½ all up on the '6' side.

JJ

Mrdi · 13 December 2007, 05:28 AM

The biggest difference between the two is the entourage!

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 December 2007, 07:54 AM

Another difference:

The Explorer II comes with two dial options: White and black.

The GMT II (16710) comes with a black dial ONLY.

Tools · 13 December 2007, 07:54 AM

Let's see...

Different bezel and a bit of font paint.....Yep, that about covers it..

Jocke · 13 December 2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Let's see...

Different bezel and a bit of font paint.....Yep, that about covers it..

Another difference is the ExpII bezel will never fade.

Jocke

waeleldasher · 13 December 2007, 03:36 PM

I wonder if bezel is removed, would we find the exp II has the hole for the spring clip so a GMT II bezel can be inserted? I will be really impressed if they're different. Its certainly more economical to machine one case and insert different accessories.

cheers

W

applebook · 13 December 2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Another difference is the ExpII bezel will never fade.

Jocke

Well, the black numbers could over time.

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 December 2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by applebook

Well, the black numbers could over time.

Yes, that is actually very true:

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13 December 2007, 04:40 AM	#1
Lubrifar Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Mr. T Location: anc/sfo Watch: for the signs! Posts: 776	Difference between ExpII & GMTII? Hello. Aside from the obvious, can you please advise the difference between the two models? I want to know everything please. Thanks.

13 December 2007, 07:54 AM	#15
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Another difference: The Explorer II comes with two dial options: White and black. The GMT II (16710) comes with a black dial ONLY. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

13 December 2007, 03:36 PM	#18
waeleldasher "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Wael Location: CT, USA+Abu Dhabi Watch: 16610LV / 116520 Posts: 201	I wonder if bezel is removed, would we find the exp II has the hole for the spring clip so a GMT II bezel can be inserted? I will be really impressed if they're different. Its certainly more economical to machine one case and insert different accessories. cheers W __________________ 16610LV 116520 116201 15200 16570

13 December 2007, 04:47 AM	#5
Lubrifar Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Mr. T Location: anc/sfo Watch: for the signs! Posts: 776	Yes, older model, not GMTIIc. How about crown, thickest, 24hr hand setting, bracelet, etc?

13 December 2007, 05:00 AM	#9
Lubrifar Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Mr. T Location: anc/sfo Watch: for the signs! Posts: 776	So both GMTII (not C) and ExpII have double lock, and setting the 24hr is the same? How about bracelet, link, and clasp, all the same? And thank you JJ!

13 December 2007, 05:21 AM	#12
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	AND the bezel diameter is the 1mm difference in the width, not the dial.

13 December 2007, 05:28 AM	#14
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	The biggest difference between the two is the entourage!

13 December 2007, 07:54 AM	#16
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,494	Let's see... Different bezel and a bit of font paint.....Yep, that about covers it..

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