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STEVEad1 · 2 February 2013, 08:24 AM

So a Buddy tells me today that a small hologram of the Rolex Crown is on all Rolex watches on the crystal. Told me he took a laser beam on his 08' SeaDweller and found a small Crown on the crystal at the 6:00 position. I took out my DeepSea and used a magnifying glass and had no such luck. Ive never heard about this and always thought I was on top of my game when it came to Rolex. So.. To my Brothers and Sisters of the forum, whats your take on this?

As always thank you for the help and stay thirsty my friends....SV

Armyguy03 · 2 February 2013, 08:26 AM

It's actually etched on the crystal, at the 6 oclock position. Someone with more knowledge will chime in when Rolex began this procedure.

LA_LEC · 2 February 2013, 08:27 AM

When was your watch manufactured? What is the letter of the serial number?

kilyung · 2 February 2013, 08:30 AM

It's technical not etched. It's actually IN the glass - little bubbles in the glass that form a crown.

STEVEad1 · 2 February 2013, 08:32 AM

Man that is sweet... Didnt know... Definitely interested when this was started.

STEVEad1 · 2 February 2013, 08:35 AM

Do they do that with Fakes? Be a great way to tell if its real or not.

Armyguy03 · 2 February 2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

It's technical not etched. It's actually IN the glass - little bubbles in the glass that form a crown.

Shoot, you are correct, dangit I even read that here too. My bad.

Fagin · 2 February 2013, 08:51 AM

Yes some fakes do have this feature. As a matter of interest the Milgauss GV does not have an LEC

LA_LEC · 2 February 2013, 08:54 AM

Rolex started this as a standard feature in the 2002 line to present.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 2 February 2013, 09:01 AM

To see it get a flashlight app for your phone. Place the phone light on the phone a 12 and the LEC will pop out.

STEVEad1 · 2 February 2013, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA_LEC

When was your watch manufactured? What is the letter of the serial number?

Bought my DeepSea in 08' and was one of a handful to first hit the streets in US.

S52 · 2 February 2013, 09:22 AM

Here you go... the LEC (laser etched crown) On my F serial GMT...

Cant remember what serial range they began doing this, pretty sure its in the last decade...

I had a really difficult time seeing it with the naked eye (and I have 20/15 vision

) It is easiest to see if you flash a light at just the right angle...

kilyung · 2 February 2013, 09:24 AM

It's all about lighting. You can even see it with the naked eye.

SeaDweller50 · 2 February 2013, 10:31 AM

My Y ser Sub has it.

mmmk604 · 2 February 2013, 10:45 AM

I cant see it with the naked eye on my 116234 with a silver dial, I need a flashlight.
I can easily see them with the naked eye on a watch with a black dial though, like on my SubC.

Thurnau · 2 February 2013, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

To see it get a flashlight app for your phone. Place the phone light on the phone a 12 and the LEC will pop out.

Good idea. That worked perfect for mine.

Hairdude1 · 2 February 2013, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S52

Here you go... the LEC (laser etched crown) On my F serial GMT...

Cant remember what serial range they began doing this, pretty sure its in the last decade...

I had a really difficult time seeing it with the naked eye (and I have 20/15 vision

) It is easiest to see if you flash a light at just the right angle...

Cool Pic

gargamel647 · 2 February 2013, 03:16 PM

GradyPhilpott · 2 February 2013, 03:34 PM

An LED flashlight is the easiest way to make the laser-etched coronet (LEC) pop.

GIA516 · 2 February 2013, 04:15 PM

Is an 04-05 16613 supposed to have it?

GIA516 · 2 February 2013, 04:38 PM

Nevermind , I found it . In place as it should be !

STEVEad1 · 2 February 2013, 07:12 PM

Has anybody found it on the DeepSea?

padi56 · 2 February 2013, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEVEad1

So a Buddy tells me today that a small hologram of the Rolex Crown is on all Rolex watches on the crystal. Told me he took a laser beam on his 08' SeaDweller and found a small Crown on the crystal at the 6:00 position. I took out my DeepSea and used a magnifying glass and had no such luck. Ive never heard about this and always thought I was on top of my game when it came to Rolex. So.. To my Brothers and Sisters of the forum, whats your take on this?

As always thank you for the help and stay thirsty my friends....SV

It was from around 2001 the Laser Etched Hologram In Crystal started but not on all watches but watches like the DSSD have the LEC. The LEC is laser-etched into the crystal its not on the crystal surface or underneath, its made up of hundreds of dots set at different heights throughout the crystal, (so it doesn’t create a weakness in the crystal) this is what makes it barely visible to the naked eye.Now if you have a replacement crystal most have a S through the LEC but some reports now some without the S in the LEC, and some even without the LEC even when replaced crystal direct from the RSC.So today nothing is written in stone with Rolex or the LEC in crystal.

Furbo · 2 February 2013, 07:55 PM

Yes they have

(found this pic on the net)

bayerische · 2 February 2013, 07:59 PM

It's definitely on your Deep sea.

Ozzy12 · 3 February 2013, 12:00 AM

One thing I do know, if you had a replacement crystal at some point it may not be centered over the six position but will still be there with a small "S" over the crown.

Grey.Coupe · 3 February 2013, 01:43 AM

They can be hard to find on genuine Rolexes, but are just not there on replicas. Better send it to me for further examination...

xxthe_remedyxx · 3 February 2013, 01:48 AM

The crystal on the DSSD is convex, making it a bit more difficult to find the LEC. With a little manipulation and a nice LED flashlight, you should be able to see it.

Rags · 3 February 2013, 02:04 AM

My Y serial DJ has it & so does my Z serial Sub.

Fagin · 3 February 2013, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grey.Coupe

They can be hard to find on genuine Rolexes, but are just not there on replicas. Better send it to me for further examination...

There are definately fakes out there with the LEC in the crystal, don't assume a watch is genuine just because it has an LEC

2 February 2013, 08:24 AM	#1
STEVEad1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: DSSD PAM270 OPO Posts: 175	Question... Holograms on Rolex crystals So a Buddy tells me today that a small hologram of the Rolex Crown is on all Rolex watches on the crystal. Told me he took a laser beam on his 08' SeaDweller and found a small Crown on the crystal at the 6:00 position. I took out my DeepSea and used a magnifying glass and had no such luck. Ive never heard about this and always thought I was on top of my game when it came to Rolex. So.. To my Brothers and Sisters of the forum, whats your take on this? As always thank you for the help and stay thirsty my friends....SV

2 February 2013, 08:26 AM	#2
Armyguy03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: DM[V] Watch: 16710 \| 16600 Posts: 3,546	It's actually etched on the crystal, at the 6 oclock position. Someone with more knowledge will chime in when Rolex began this procedure. __________________ Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

2 February 2013, 08:27 AM	#3
LA_LEC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,793	When was your watch manufactured? What is the letter of the serial number? __________________ 16610 ♛ 16610LV ♛ 214270 MK2 "Life is far too short not to wear a Rolex!"

2 February 2013, 08:51 AM	#8
Fagin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern England Watch: a genuine one Posts: 355	Yes some fakes do have this feature. As a matter of interest the Milgauss GV does not have an LEC __________________ Caveat Emptor Let The Buyer Beware

2 February 2013, 08:54 AM	#9
LA_LEC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,793	Rolex started this as a standard feature in the 2002 line to present. __________________ 16610 ♛ 16610LV ♛ 214270 MK2 "Life is far too short not to wear a Rolex!"

2 February 2013, 08:30 AM	#4
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	It's technical not etched. It's actually IN the glass - little bubbles in the glass that form a crown.

2 February 2013, 08:32 AM	#5
STEVEad1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: DSSD PAM270 OPO Posts: 175	Man that is sweet... Didnt know... Definitely interested when this was started.

2 February 2013, 08:35 AM	#6
STEVEad1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: DSSD PAM270 OPO Posts: 175	Do they do that with Fakes? Be a great way to tell if its real or not.

2 February 2013, 09:01 AM	#10
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	To see it get a flashlight app for your phone. Place the phone light on the phone a 12 and the LEC will pop out. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

2 February 2013, 09:22 AM	#12
S52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL230 Watch: me fly-by Posts: 789	Here you go... the LEC (laser etched crown) On my F serial GMT... Cant remember what serial range they began doing this, pretty sure its in the last decade... I had a really difficult time seeing it with the naked eye (and I have 20/15 vision ) It is easiest to see if you flash a light at just the right angle... __________________ GMT Master II 16710B BLRO--Sea Dweller 16600--Submariner 1680--Milgauss 116400--Tudor BB58 79030B--Omega Speedmaster Pro--IWC Mark XV Automatic--Breitling Aerospace

2 February 2013, 09:24 AM	#13
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	It's all about lighting. You can even see it with the naked eye.

2 February 2013, 10:31 AM	#14
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	My Y ser Sub has it.

2 February 2013, 10:45 AM	#15
mmmk604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,594	I cant see it with the naked eye on my 116234 with a silver dial, I need a flashlight. I can easily see them with the naked eye on a watch with a black dial though, like on my SubC.

2 February 2013, 03:16 PM	#18
gargamel647 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: Las Vegas Watch: Ho Posts: 679

2 February 2013, 03:34 PM	#19
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,447	An LED flashlight is the easiest way to make the laser-etched coronet (LEC) pop. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

2 February 2013, 04:15 PM	#20
GIA516 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 215	Is an 04-05 16613 supposed to have it?

2 February 2013, 04:38 PM	#21
GIA516 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 215	Nevermind , I found it . In place as it should be !

2 February 2013, 07:12 PM	#22
STEVEad1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: DSSD PAM270 OPO Posts: 175	Has anybody found it on the DeepSea?

2 February 2013, 07:55 PM	#24
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	Yes they have (found this pic on the net)

2 February 2013, 07:59 PM	#25
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	It's definitely on your Deep sea. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

3 February 2013, 12:00 AM	#26
Ozzy12 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 205	One thing I do know, if you had a replacement crystal at some point it may not be centered over the six position but will still be there with a small "S" over the crown.

3 February 2013, 01:43 AM	#27
Grey.Coupe "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NC, USA Posts: 555	They can be hard to find on genuine Rolexes, but are just not there on replicas. Better send it to me for further examination...

3 February 2013, 01:48 AM	#28
xxthe_remedyxx "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: George Location: NYC Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,105	The crystal on the DSSD is convex, making it a bit more difficult to find the LEC. With a little manipulation and a nice LED flashlight, you should be able to see it.

3 February 2013, 02:04 AM	#29
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	My Y serial DJ has it & so does my Z serial Sub. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

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