312 vs 111

[raf823]

I currently have a PAM 111 and am considering swapping for a PAM 312. Like the sleek look of the 312, the contrast bezel and the markings on the crown. also would not mind a three day wind cycle. the sandwich dial is also attractive - love it on my 111. also want a PAM with a date. perhaps i pulled the trigger too fast on the 111 -- i don't want to make the same mistake.

THOUGHTS? i know there are a lot of you with much more experience and wisdom. thanks in advance... RAF

[CoachRolexRyan]

Ooooo, that's a toughie. The 111 is such a classic Pam, but so is the 312. One is historic and the other contemporary, hand wound, auto, luminor case, 1950s case. Make sure you try on the 312 because it's a heavier watch and wears larger than a reg 44
Because of the extra thickness due to the auto movement. If you were deciding which to buy I would say go with the 312 , it's a lot of watch, but since you already have the 111 I would say keep it, it's such an awesome watch!

[p_mcgee]

Its nice to have a date on a daily wearer, but on me the 111 fits better. Every time I try on the 312 I fell like its top heavy & flopping around.

[Psmith]

Sub + 111 is such a great combo... I say keep the 111

[jvo300]

I've owned the 312 and like the watch a lot. Beware that the case will be much fatter and it will feel much heavier than your 111. My recommendation is to spend the extra cash for a dot dial 233 to get the perfect modern Panerai (8 day manual wind, date, sandwich dial, slim profile, stealthy GMT complication).

[lig]

I prefer the 111 over the 312. Unless a Bronzo or a 507 falls into my lap at MSRP the only Panerai I really want is the 390.

[Legno]

111 wears better on the wrist I think.
I also heard that its mvmt is being phased out and the 510 with 8-days inhouse mvmt is going to replace it, so in no time it's going to be a collectible? Not sure if the rest can comment on this.

[Cru Jones]

Maybe a 233? Like quite a few, the 312 is too tall for me.

[kilyung]

Keep the 111. The 312 was too thick and top heavy for me despite being a stunning looking watch. I'd either get a 233 or wait for a 510.

[bde]

Between those two, 111 for sure. Mike is right, the 312 is too thick.

[raf823]

is the 233 as weighty on the wrist?

[geekyjeff]

Originally Posted by raf823

is the 233 as weighty on the wrist?

Just the opposite. It wears flatter on the wrist, so it feels much more "balanced" (if that makes sense).

[B. Doggy]

I've owned the 312 and would say go with the 111.

[Watchdog]

Agree with most of the guys here. Like the 312 a lot. Love the 111. Nothing to improve on there.

However, if you can find the way to pull a 233, then that is what I would definitely do.

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by kilyung

I'd either get a 233 or wait for a 510.

I agree with Mike (just not with his love of super-hairy avatars ;)
Actually since the 233 is in a higher budget-bracket, I'd go 510; that does mean a six-mth wait... So by then you'll have saved enough for a 233 :D

[raf823]

thanks everyone... i really appreciate your help.