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JJL · 27 March 2013, 03:13 AM

So I've always been a big fan of the Speedmaster pro, especially the model with the clear caseback. So I was wondering:

1. Is that a particular reference number or are there several model numbers with the clear caseback? For example, I've seen in the "For Sale" section before models labeled 3572.50 and 3573.50 - are there more? Where can I find the differences?

2. Are they all manual wind or do they make an automatic version of this?

Manual wind movements look to be absolutely beautiful, but I don't know if I could wind it everyday. I like to just put my watch on and wear it 24/7.

Thanks for the info and sorry for the newbie questions!

arkane · 27 March 2013, 07:00 AM

They both have the same manual-wind 1863 movement.

3572.50

discontinued around 2003
hesalite (plastic) crystal
sapphire display back w/ correct wording "First Watch Worn on the Moon"

3573.50

current production
sapphire crystal
sapphire display back w/ less than accurate wording "The First and Only Watch Worn on the Moon"

JJL · 28 March 2013, 03:57 AM

Thanks for the info / response!

Unfortunately I just don't know if I could do a manual wind for an everyday watch.

Kringkily · 28 March 2013, 04:30 AM

It is a great watch and looks amazing. I am sure that winding it here or there won't be an issue once you get it.

jms_w · 28 March 2013, 04:42 AM

Btw there is also a co-axial automatic version of the SMP (311.30.44.50.01.002) but it's 44mm vs 42mm. It has a clear caseback and looks pretty much the same. But I vaguely remember someone saying to stay away calibre 3313 which is what's in this reference. FWIW.

lipjin · 22 May 2013, 01:43 AM

Omega newbie as well looking for a Chrono (toss up between Speedy pro and Daytona for now)

1. What are the thoughts on the newer co-axial movement? There's some literature on the net that state that the co-axial movement hasn't been throughly tested yet?

2. What's the best way to get a 3572.50?

3. Between 3572.50 and 3570.50 - the only difference is the sapphire caseback?

jmsrolls · 22 May 2013, 03:05 AM

Ten years ago I fell in love with Omega Speedmasters and owned several with the Valjoux based movements. I could not understand the fascination (obsession) with the Speedmaster Professional; a non-hacking manual wind watch with a plastic crystal and no date.

I finally broke down and bought a pre-owned 3570.50 from one of the trusted sellers on eBay. After a couple of weeks of wear and research into its rich history, I was hooked. I've owned a couple of dozen since including four at one time. My current collection consists of only two: a vintage 105.012 as worn by Armstrong and other moon walkers and my latest addition, the "First Omega in Space." Now the only Speedmaster for me must have a Lemania movement. All others are "wannabees."

A few years back, one of my watch buddies had just taken delivery of a white dialed Daytona when I showed him my white dialed Speedy Pro as well as my black dialed vintage. He was so impressed with the legibility, he immediately replaced his Daytona with two Speedy Pros similar to mine.

No other watch has the Speedy Pro's history and mystery. It is a "must have" for any serious watch collection. It has been my dealer's #1 seller for decades and remains the nucleus of his inventory. He usually has 20-30 of various flavors in stock at all time.

As for daily winding, it's always a joy to connect with my Speedy Pros and be reminded of how special they are.

Sherwooddavid · 22 May 2013, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJL

Thanks for the info / response!

Unfortunately I just don't know if I could do a manual wind for an everyday watch.

I wasn't sure either but it's a piece of cake !!

teqp · 22 May 2013, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJL

Manual wind movements look to be absolutely beautiful, but I don't know if I could wind it everyday. I like to just put my watch on and wear it 24/7.

Actually it is not bad at all. I recently got a manual speedy and wind it at work when I'm in meetings.

silversurfer96790 · 22 May 2013, 07:28 AM

I own both hand wind and auto, to wind it is minor takes 10 - 15 seconds of your day. Like the post Above I like to wind mine in the morning meeting

Wacker23 · 22 May 2013, 12:00 PM

I have the 3573 great value for the price the winding is not an issue. Great great watch.

27 March 2013, 07:00 AM	#2
arkane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15	They both have the same manual-wind 1863 movement. 3572.50 discontinued around 2003 hesalite (plastic) crystal sapphire display back w/ correct wording "First Watch Worn on the Moon" 3573.50 current production sapphire crystal sapphire display back w/ less than accurate wording "*The First and Only* Watch Worn on the Moon**"

28 March 2013, 04:42 AM	#5
jms_w "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Coast Watch: 116710LN Posts: 557	Btw there is also a co-axial automatic version of the SMP (311.30.44.50.01.002) but it's 44mm vs 42mm. It has a clear caseback and looks pretty much the same. But I vaguely remember someone saying to stay away calibre 3313 which is what's in this reference. FWIW. __________________ 116520\|116610LV\|116710LN\|16613\|16233 244 232.30.42\|3222.80 A2332212 CFX-200\|Riseman\|GW-M5610

22 May 2013, 01:43 AM	#6
lipjin "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: HK Watch: AP ROC, Nautilus Posts: 1,657	Omega newbie as well looking for a Chrono (toss up between Speedy pro and Daytona for now) 1. What are the thoughts on the newer co-axial movement? There's some literature on the net that state that the co-axial movement hasn't been throughly tested yet? 2. What's the best way to get a 3572.50? 3. Between 3572.50 and 3570.50 - the only difference is the sapphire caseback? __________________ "We must use time wisely and forever realize that the time is always ripe to do right" -Nelson Mandela "It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices" -Dumbledore Instagram: horolj_

27 March 2013, 03:13 AM	#1
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	Speedmaster help please (Omega newb) So I've always been a big fan of the Speedmaster pro, especially the model with the clear caseback. So I was wondering: 1. Is that a particular reference number or are there several model numbers with the clear caseback? For example, I've seen in the "For Sale" section before models labeled 3572.50 and 3573.50 - are there more? Where can I find the differences? 2. Are they all manual wind or do they make an automatic version of this? Manual wind movements look to be absolutely beautiful, but I don't know if I could wind it everyday. I like to just put my watch on and wear it 24/7. Thanks for the info and sorry for the newbie questions!

28 March 2013, 03:57 AM	#3
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	Thanks for the info / response! Unfortunately I just don't know if I could do a manual wind for an everyday watch.

28 March 2013, 04:30 AM	#4
Kringkily "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: George Location: New York Watch: Speedmaster, Rolex Posts: 3,082	It is a great watch and looks amazing. I am sure that winding it here or there won't be an issue once you get it.

22 May 2013, 03:05 AM	#7
jmsrolls Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,185	Ten years ago I fell in love with Omega Speedmasters and owned several with the Valjoux based movements. I could not understand the fascination (obsession) with the Speedmaster Professional; a non-hacking manual wind watch with a plastic crystal and no date. I finally broke down and bought a pre-owned 3570.50 from one of the trusted sellers on eBay. After a couple of weeks of wear and research into its rich history, I was hooked. I've owned a couple of dozen since including four at one time. My current collection consists of only two: a vintage 105.012 as worn by Armstrong and other moon walkers and my latest addition, the "First Omega in Space." Now the only Speedmaster for me must have a Lemania movement. All others are "wannabees." A few years back, one of my watch buddies had just taken delivery of a white dialed Daytona when I showed him my white dialed Speedy Pro as well as my black dialed vintage. He was so impressed with the legibility, he immediately replaced his Daytona with two Speedy Pros similar to mine. No other watch has the Speedy Pro's history and mystery. It is a "must have" for any serious watch collection. It has been my dealer's #1 seller for decades and remains the nucleus of his inventory. He usually has 20-30 of various flavors in stock at all time. As for daily winding, it's always a joy to connect with my Speedy Pros and be reminded of how special they are.

22 May 2013, 07:28 AM	#10
silversurfer96790 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Jon Location: Tokyo Watch: GMT 16710, 1675 Posts: 294	I own both hand wind and auto, to wind it is minor takes 10 - 15 seconds of your day. Like the post Above I like to wind mine in the morning meeting

22 May 2013, 12:00 PM	#11
Wacker23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn ny Watch: Rolex sub Posts: 504	I have the 3573 great value for the price the winding is not an issue. Great great watch.

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