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Gigaton Punch · 6 April 2013, 05:43 AM

I want to purchase a tool that will allow me to replace the PCL oyster strap (GMT IIc) with other straps.

Is the Bergeon "Watch Spring Bar Tool" sufficient, or should I spend the extra on the Bergeon 6111? Quite a price difference; $29 compared to $52, respectively on Amazon.

Or is there another recommended tool?

Shef · 6 April 2013, 02:35 PM

AF Swiss makes an equivalent tool of the same quality for half the price, but I can't find a reliable online source for them. Startime supply has a similar tool to the Bergeon 6111 as well. I'm not sure who the manufacturer for this version is. Regardless, the quality is on par with Bergeon IMO. I suggest purchasing extra tips because the oversized fork tip isn't very useful.
http://store.startimesupply.com/merc...ch_Begin_Only=
My classmate has the Bergeon tool. I have the AF Swiss version and another two use the springbar tool from startime supply. They're all more or less the same at different prices.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 6 April 2013, 10:48 PM

I have the FB-504.

http://www.ofrei.com/page252htm

hsfrank · 15 April 2013, 01:16 AM

The cheaper tool on Amazon does not look appropriate for a Rolex. The Rolex does require a fine tip. This is taken from Beckertime.com " This tool is used to remove the Oyster watch strap from the watch head so that it can be cleaned, or changed for a NATO or RubberB/Everest watch strap. Be sure to get a good Springbar tool as the cheap ones found on the Internet tips become dull quickly. A Bergeon springbar tool with the Fine Forks (FF) fits Rolex springbars well. The springbar tool can also be used for making micro-adjustments under the bracelet clasp." The FB 504 gets a good review on Frei's site.

Dan Pierce · 15 April 2013, 01:19 AM

I use the Bergeon 6767 w/ small forks for flanged spring bars and the other end for watches w/ lug holes.
dP

Everest · 16 April 2013, 11:06 AM

The 6767 is what I use also. I really think its pretty nice. The Bergeon 6111 is also great, but I switch my bracelets non-stop and for some reason the 6767 is just quicker.

melons · 17 April 2013, 12:23 PM

I use the 6767 also.

6 April 2013, 05:43 AM	#1
Gigaton Punch "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: USA Posts: 136	Bergeon tool advice I want to purchase a tool that will allow me to replace the PCL oyster strap (GMT IIc) with other straps. Is the Bergeon "Watch Spring Bar Tool" sufficient, or should I spend the extra on the Bergeon 6111? Quite a price difference; $29 compared to $52, respectively on Amazon. Or is there another recommended tool?

6 April 2013, 10:48 PM	#3
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	I have the FB-504. http://www.ofrei.com/page252htm __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

15 April 2013, 01:16 AM	#4
hsfrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Herbert Frank Location: Middletown,De Watch: President Posts: 1,641	The cheaper tool on Amazon does not look appropriate for a Rolex. The Rolex does require a fine tip. This is taken from Beckertime.com " This tool is used to remove the Oyster watch strap from the watch head so that it can be cleaned, or changed for a NATO or RubberB/Everest watch strap. Be sure to get a good Springbar tool as the cheap ones found on the Internet tips become dull quickly. A Bergeon springbar tool with the Fine Forks (FF) fits Rolex springbars well. The springbar tool can also be used for making micro-adjustments under the bracelet clasp." The FB 504 gets a good review on Frei's site. __________________ Time and Tide wait for no man Rolex Cellini 4133 Tudor North Flag HERS: Rolex TTDJ Last edited by hsfrank; 15 April 2013 at 01:22 AM.. Reason: Content in error

15 April 2013, 01:19 AM	#5
Dan Pierce "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,300	I use the Bergeon 6767 w/ small forks for flanged spring bars and the other end for watches w/ lug holes. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

6 April 2013, 02:35 PM	#2
Shef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NY Watch: Datejust/Speedy Posts: 48	AF Swiss makes an equivalent tool of the same quality for half the price, but I can't find a reliable online source for them. Startime supply has a similar tool to the Bergeon 6111 as well. I'm not sure who the manufacturer for this version is. Regardless, the quality is on par with Bergeon IMO. I suggest purchasing extra tips because the oversized fork tip isn't very useful. http://store.startimesupply.com/merc...ch_Begin_Only= My classmate has the Bergeon tool. I have the AF Swiss version and another two use the springbar tool from startime supply. They're all more or less the same at different prices.

16 April 2013, 11:06 AM	#6
Everest "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Saint louis mo Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 157	The 6767 is what I use also. I really think its pretty nice. The Bergeon 6111 is also great, but I switch my bracelets non-stop and for some reason the 6767 is just quicker.

17 April 2013, 12:23 PM	#7
melons "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: GMT -5 Watch: Rolex/Panerai Posts: 991	I use the 6767 also.

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