I accuse Rolex & their agents

[TempoKing]

I have been going to many Rolex official agents for the past 8 years looking to buy or place an order for a new steel Ref: 116520 Rolex Daytona Chronograph. What I get for a responce is we do not have it, we can not order, we can not help you, it is difficult, no way etc. etc. The same happened lately with the Milgauss, I went to Mayors Jewelers here in Florida and they do not have the watch, Head office most likely sells only to prefered clientele. I dare Mayors Jewelers or Rolex USA to call me RIGHT NOW 954 892-9291 and tell me that I am wrong for accusing them for bad business practices and "merchandise manipulation" and that I can go to their Jewelry store and buy either a steel Daytona or a Milgauss right away.

[MAXI DIAL]

Good luck Anastasios!

[Orchi]

Originally Posted by TempoKing

I have been going to many Rolex official agents for the past 8 years looking to buy or place an order for a new steel Ref: 116520 Rolex Daytona Chronograph. What I get for a responce is we do not have it, we can not order, we can not help you, it is difficult, no way etc. etc. The same happened lately with the Milgauss, I went to Mayors Jewelers here in Florida and they do not have the watch, Head office most likely sells only to prefered clientele. I dare Mayors Jewelers or Rolex USA to call me RIGHT NOW 954 892-9291 and tell me that I am wrong for accusing them for bad business practices and "merchandise manipulation" and that I can go to their Jewelry store and buy either a steel Daytona or a Milgauss right away.

Err buddy Anastasios...Orchi bows to thee... n prays...you would get what you wish for...

[Felly Jr.]

I'm guessing Florida isn't the easiest place to pick up a Daytona.
Too many rich retired folks looking to "Flash That Cash"!

[Elaine]

hi .......

sorry that you could not find your dream watch but thats just the way it is ....

think of it in the positive way ... it will be all the more sweeter when you find the grail watch ......

no pain no gain :)

[Felly Jr.]

There's always the Grey Market. You'll pay a couple K more than MSRP, but hey, there's the dreaded price increase supposedly coming so it won't be that bad.

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by Felly Jr.

I'm guessing Florida isn't the easiest place to pick up a Daytona.
Too many rich retired folks looking to "Flash That Cash"!

LOL...you are funny...We both know that I can buy either one of these two watches in 10 seconds flat. I do not want to buy from a grey market specialist, I like to go to the store get the customer service that I deserve and for which customer service they are screaming that they are reknowned for..a bunch of bull if you ask me. Have a nice day

[BigDanC]

Rolex is so full of crap. It does not take a year and a half to make a Rolex watch and they are intentionally keeping production of the Milgauss and Daytona low. QQ I want Milgauss green:(.

[DSJ]

Anastasios, I DARE YOU to buy Rick's Daytona!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=30405

[Numismatist]

I was at Mayor's in the Sarasota Mall store last month, they did have an SS Daytona for sale in the case at around $9K I think.

Also, Armel's down the road a bit had one as well.

I understand the "manipulation" theorists who well may be right; however, with due diligence, I've personally seen three in the last four months for sale in the cases.

[koronet-kid]

Agree buy Rick's a fair price too. in the UK this would easily fetch $1000 dollars more.

regards sean

[frostie]

It is bad that rolex AD's are selling these watches only to prefered customers and also the waiting list is ridiculous. If i was looking for a daytona or a gauss i would definetely look for grey market dealers. I hope that you will purchase the watches that you like anastasios and wish you luck

[dr_rolex]

TEMPOKING,

Great idea! This "dare" versus RUSA/AD is a wonderful idea! If RUSA reads this forum........and you score, you are the man. Why not try with a follow up letter directly to ROLEX GENEVA?

[puffnmo]

If Rolex continues with this "preferred customer" bull crp., I would not be sorry to see a large number of collectors take Rolex off their "preferred manufacturer" list. I have done exactly that. Larry.

[DJF881]

I don't know what your specific claim of "manipulation" is. There are all kinds of products that are intentionally manufactured in limited quantities and marketed as such. Maybe you've never heard of a "limited edition," but they are a common marketing device. Rolex is entitled to manufacture as many or as few Daytonas as it wishes.

It's also easier to get a steel Daytona than it is to get many regular-production models from small-production watch companies like Patek and Audemars.

Of course, there is likely a marketing rationale behind the scarcity of the Daytona. It is good for at least one regular-production Rolex model to have "grail" status for collectors, and the Daytona is a good choice, because if it were manufactured in quantities that met the demand, it would likely be less desirable than the Omega Speedmaster, which is a very important chronograph, famous for being selected by the space program. Scarcity makes it the crown jewel rather than the weak link it would have been otherwise. This is just the savvy marketing prowess that is the reason Rolex survived quartz and is the reason their vintage models hold value so well.

As for the Milgauss, I assume they resurrected that unpopular, discontinued line to draw attention to the antimagnetic properties of the Parachrom hairspring, and to add another model to their catalog that is hard to get.

Since nobody who works near electromagnets needs a mechanical watch to tell the time anymore, the Milgauss is of interest primarily to watch collectors. I can't imagine anyone walking into a dealer with limited knowledge and the desire to spend six grand on a watch, and leaving with the Milgauss. If they made as many of those as they do Subs or GMTs, who would buy them?

[Ed Rooney]

Just go to Vegas.

[mullman]

I have bought several watches from the same AD (chain) over the years.
Nothing expensive, only SS.

I asked when buying my IIc in November and was told they could get me a SS Daytona within two months or so at MSRP if I was interested. But to be honest, I am just not interested. And I really am not a flipper, do not have the time to deal with that just to make a small profit.

What I do like at the 1970s Daytonas that are manual wind. Not sure why, just do.

[CoopJr]

Originally Posted by mullman

What I do like at the 1970s Daytonas that are manual wind. Not sure why, just do.

I love those too I still kick myself for not buying one when I had the chance

[Floridadogg]

Any AD that sells a Daytona, or any other new watch at a premium is really a greedy SOB. They should at the very least offer the watch at MSRP to a large customer. Marking the watch up is unethical. I was lucky enough to buy a new SS Daytona at Jareds in Clearwater at MSRP after being on the list for about 6 months and buying a $1000 Tag for my wife on a Jareds account. I salute Jareds. Try them if there one in your area.

[Todd V]

Other's have raised the idea of visiting dealers that do not rely on repeat clientele. Vegas, dealers stationed in airports or other tourist spots, etc.

Good Luck.

[GoldenBear]

Every business has their preferred customers that they give special treatment to. Whether it's a broker allocating IPO shares or casinos comping food, drinks and show tickets to their high rollers in Vegas. However, not every AD does that, so maybe you'll get lucky if you keep checking. Many on this forum claim they have and that their AD doesn't mark-up or have "a list". That begs the question...if you get your Daytona at list from an AD would you keep it and wear it or go flip it on Ebay? I know what MANY would do...but that is an entirely different topic.

[Felly Jr.]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

That begs the question...if you get your Daytona at list from an AD would you keep it and wear it or go flip it on Ebay?

Good luck flippin' it on ebay. There's not many selling right now, and the one's that are have been going for 9K or thereabouts.

[GrandDaddy]

Originally Posted by TempoKing

I have been going to many Rolex official agents for the past 8 years looking to buy or place an order for a new steel Ref: 116520 Rolex Daytona Chronograph. What I get for a responce is we do not have it, we can not order, we can not help you, it is difficult, no way etc. etc. The same happened lately with the Milgauss, I went to Mayors Jewelers here in Florida and they do not have the watch, Head office most likely sells only to prefered clientele. I dare Mayors Jewelers or Rolex USA to call me RIGHT NOW 954 892-9291 and tell me that I am wrong for accusing them for bad business practices and "merchandise manipulation" and that I can go to their Jewelry store and buy either a steel Daytona or a Milgauss right away.

MORE POWER TO YOU!

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Welcome to TRF, Anastasios!

If you insist on paying MSRP only for the SS Daytona and/or Milgauss, I believe you will have a very hard time finding one.

But if you feel you MUST have either of them and the price does not matter, then there are plenty to be had.

May the force be with you!

[scottschoe]

Originally Posted by TempoKing

LOL...you are funny...We both know that I can buy either one of these two watches in 10 seconds flat. I do not want to buy from a grey market specialist, I like to go to the store get the customer service that I deserve and for which customer service they are screaming that they are reknowned for..a bunch of bull if you ask me. Have a nice day

Many shops actually do have 1 or 2 SS Daytonas in the 'backroom,' that they'll sell to you at MSRP after you make a major purchase. Don't expect to just walk into any store and get it at MSRP for your first watch Or just pay the premium and buy a new SS at a few K over list. Like you said, you have enough money to buy it, so why complain so much?

[CPCC]

Its not rolex's fault. Blame all the chooches on this sight that buy a Daytona for their private collection to sell it within the month for a significant profit. Its these guys. Let WIS buy them and enjoy them.

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by Numismatist

I was at Mayor's in the Sarasota Mall store last month, they did have an SS Daytona for sale in the case at around $9K I think.

Also, Armel's down the road a bit had one as well.

I understand the "manipulation" theorists who well may be right; however, with due diligence, I've personally seen three in the last four months for sale in the cases.

Have you actually seen NEW watches..? with open warantees ?
Because if they are asking 9k and it is a brand new watch then there is price gauging involved.
I think most likely a second hand watch, one that was returned perhaps, one that can not be sold as brand new, official agents can not sell above MSRP, I have bought a used Sea-Dweller from them for 3,150 with store warantee.

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by dr_rolex

TEMPOKING,

Great idea! This "dare" versus RUSA/AD is a wonderful idea! If RUSA reads this forum........and you score, you are the man. Why not try with a follow up letter directly to ROLEX GENEVA?

Hello Dr., ...Good idea mate, a letter to Geneva will make those lawyers and accountants see the truth from my perspective...lol

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by scottschoe

Many shops actually do have 1 or 2 SS Daytonas in the 'backroom,' that they'll sell to you at MSRP after you make a major purchase. Don't expect to just walk into any store and get it at MSRP for your first watch Or just pay the premium and buy a new SS at a few K over list. Like you said, you have enough money to buy it, so why complain so much?

Hi Scott, it is not about money my friend, simply put, if I want a watch I should be able to go and get it from the official dealer.

[chevycorvette]

u can file a class action law suit.