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tattooedfagin · 31 July 2013, 06:05 PM

Had the damn AP Bumblebee on my mind for too long now & looking to quash this feeling but with only SS Rolex in house at the moment concerned about how the Carbon case fares on a daily worn basis (or regular at least) & in the event of dings what are the service possibilities on making good the scars

bayerische · 31 July 2013, 06:12 PM

Isn't the carbon case very hard?

Rashid.bk · 31 July 2013, 09:22 PM

FightOnSC posted an awesome thread on day to day wear of his FC Diver. His assessment was that the resilience of the FC has made that watch more or so his daily because it's so flexible and can handle day to bumps and scrapes without any signs of it(paraphrasing).
The FC Diver is my grail right now. From what I understand the case isn't overly expensive to replace. Mike(Kilyung) had gotten a quote I believe and it was less than $2k iirc.

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.ph...d+carbon+diver

texex91 · 31 July 2013, 10:11 PM

FC is tough as nails. You may be thinking about ceramic, which can be more prone to damage. I've put my 44mm FC through it's paces, and not even a scratch. FC is the ideal choice for weight as well. Just great for an all day watch!

Cru Jones · 31 July 2013, 10:21 PM

IIRC, in terms of scratch resistance, it's between SS and ceramic, but, due to the appearance of the material, the scratches will blend in and not be noticeable. with respect to impact resistance, it is more resiliant than ceramic, but, i'm not sure how it compares to SS (about the same?).

personally, i like everything about FC, from the technology to its strengths to its appearance.

mb23 · 31 July 2013, 10:28 PM

I wear my carbon pretty much 3 days a week and it's great, best part is the case hides almost anything!

masterserg · 31 July 2013, 11:20 PM

I am sure he'll chime in soon, but if I remember Mike's comment, the case is cheaper (by a decent margin) than the ceramic bezel to replace should that be necessary
(unlikely as it might be).

Soly20 · 1 August 2013, 12:00 AM

I wear my FC 44mm sometimes 5 days in a row and it is as tough as nails. I also wear it when I fly long distance, and it doesn't have 1 scratch on it yet. FC is just amazing IMHO.

kilyung · 1 August 2013, 02:31 AM

It's ridiculous how nice FC works as a daily watch. Any dings aren't very visible but if you want the case can be replaced for under $2k.

masterserg · 1 August 2013, 03:33 AM

Can I add another question? How do the sharp edges of the ceramic bezel take the daily beating?

craniotes · 1 August 2013, 03:39 AM

Yup, it's an almost ideal day-to-day material for watch cases due to pretty much all the reasons already cited. Not only is it resistant to dings, scuffs and scratches, should they occur, they're almost impossible to see.

Now, it's true that forged carbon cannot be refinished, which means that you're stuck replacing the entire case should you decide that the wear has become too much for you to bear any longer, but as noted, the cost for such a maneuver is less than you'd expect (personally, I suspect that AP is subsidizing the cost to make up for lack of refinishing options, but don't quote me on that).

As for real-world experience, all I can say is that my FC Diver still looks indistinquishable from brand new, and that's after numerous trips to the beach, the playground (with the kids), the pool, etc. Honestly, I can't get enough of this watch.

(I love how how shimmers in the sunlight!)

Regards,
Adam

PS - Unless you're routinely scraping your bezel against crushed diamonds or pounding railroad ties with it, the ceramic will remain unblemished.

gummy · 1 August 2013, 06:31 AM

Had my 44FC for a while now...honestly I might wear it 5 of 7 days on average...

I don't see any signs of wear and I love it.

Tons of wrist presence and its super light and comfortable on.

Proceed with confidence and get the Bee!

kilyung · 1 August 2013, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterserg

Can I add another question? How do the sharp edges of the ceramic bezel take the daily beating?

IMO the large bezel protects the case edges very well but they're still very sharp and defined.

iLLGT2 · 1 August 2013, 06:55 AM

All depends which forged carbon AP we are talking about, in terms of replacement and wear.

The team alinghi and grand prix tend to show more wear on the bezel than the others due to no ceramic bezel.

I wore my bee daily for 2 months basically and it still looked BRAND NEW.

My grand prix I then started to wear, besides for the normal wear when I got it (was like new) and the forged carbon weave/look which made the bezel look more worn than it was, it was also very resilient . I banged the grand prix bezel pretty hard and the only mark was paint on top of the wood table on the bezel. No crack or anything, and people have been very worried about the vented carbon bezel sustaining hits..

Either way, IMO, it is the PERFECT daily watch… and has so much character/comfort/style :)

masterserg · 1 August 2013, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

IMO the large bezel protects the case edges very well but they're still very sharp and defined.

Sorry Mike, I meant the ceramic bezel itself (whether the edges would chip and so on) ... Adam answered above.

v5cog · 1 August 2013, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterserg

Can I add another question? How do the sharp edges of the ceramic bezel take the daily beating?

I wear my bee pretty much daily... ... The ceramic bezel is still as sharp and defined as the day I bought it, not a mark.. And if there are any dinks or scratches on the case... Well I can't see them !!
Go for it ...you won't regret FC

the bottom picture I took with my new galaxy s4 phone...

FightOnSC! · 1 August 2013, 07:34 AM

I do have a very small and minor surface issue near the crown. How it happened I don't know. It's a pretty tough area to hit during daily wear but the grain hides it. It's my daily watch that gets put through the paces so I'm not in a rush to get a case replacement yet. In all I wear it with confidence everywhere, I consider this a fluke.

I've definitely banged FC on things pretty hard and came out unscathed. It's tough.

texex91 · 1 August 2013, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightOnSC!

I do have a very small and minor surface issue near the crown. How it happened I don't know. It's a pretty tough area to hit during daily wear but the grain hides it. It's my daily watch that gets put through the paces so I'm not in a rush to get a case replacement yet. In all I wear it with confidence everywhere, I consider this a fluke.

I've definitely banged FC on things pretty hard and came out unscathed. It's tough.

Jason we know how it happened...you had a bachelor party recently right

tgoss · 1 August 2013, 10:32 AM

I wear my bee almost daily and work in the automotive industry. I even wrench wearing it.

I have banged this poor thing on everything you can imagine and it still looks perfect.

Coupled with a diver or survivor strap and I'm hard pressed to remove this thing from my wrist :)

kilyung · 1 August 2013, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

Jason we know how it happened...you had a bachelor party recently right

That must have been a heck of a party!

FightOnSC! · 1 August 2013, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

Jason we know how it happened...you had a bachelor party recently right

Haha...a keen observation, perhaps! But honestly it's one of those things where you don't remember ever hitting it then one morning you realize it's there.

Vegas happens.

texex91 · 1 August 2013, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightOnSC!

Vegas happens.

I'll be there next weekend--lets hope the Schumi is up for it

FightOnSC! · 1 August 2013, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

I'll be there next weekend--lets hope the Schumi is up for it

Insure it! I think the schumi is my one non FC watch I'd feel comfortable to go HAM wearing. If what you tell me about titanium is true!

Once it's back from Clearwater I'm taking her there to watch an away game at Legasse's at Palazzo.

texex91 · 1 August 2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightOnSC!

Insure it! I think the schumi is my one non FC watch I'd feel comfortable to go HAM wearing. If what you tell me about titanium is true!

Once it's back from Clearwater I'm taking her there to watch an away game at Legasse's at Palazzo.

Always best to be around a few drinks when USC loses

Come on down next weekend...bring Ginza.

FightOnSC! · 1 August 2013, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

Always best to be around a few drinks when USC loses

Come on down next weekend...bring Ginza.

Ouch! And I thought you were one of the nicer longhorn fans....

Lets be honest: last year sucked for both of us, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

I wish I could be in Vegas but work in Japan is calling. First gotta fly home from Bora Bora tonight first.

TSW · 1 August 2013, 04:49 PM

Carbon is probably the safest material for everyday use as it doesn't shows scratches that easy.

tattooedfagin · 1 August 2013, 10:20 PM

Cheers for all input, ticks all the boxes then

John C · 2 August 2013, 04:51 AM

I am also looking to get a Carbon ROO. Can anyone tell me which ROO is this? Are the hands yellow? - I like the Yellow Hands

GreenRust · 5 August 2013, 01:48 AM

That looks like an End of Days limited edition. Not FC though, it's pvd. Killer watch!

kilyung · 5 August 2013, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John C

I am also looking to get a Carbon ROO. Can anyone tell me which ROO is this? Are the hands yellow? - I like the Yellow Hands

It's the limited edition End of Days.

It's the watch that first attracted me to the Bee along with the FC Diver. See the family resemblance?

31 July 2013, 06:05 PM	#1
tattooedfagin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chad Location: the neighbourhood Watch: 1680 Red Posts: 2,262	Day to day Carbon AP Had the damn AP Bumblebee on my mind for too long now & looking to quash this feeling but with only SS Rolex in house at the moment concerned about how the Carbon case fares on a daily worn basis (or regular at least) & in the event of dings what are the service possibilities on making good the scars __________________ SS Sub Date (F) DSSD (V) Red Sub (Mk4) TRF Hall of Fame

31 July 2013, 06:12 PM	#2
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Isn't the carbon case very hard? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

31 July 2013, 11:20 PM	#7
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	I am sure he'll chime in soon, but if I remember Mike's comment, the case is cheaper (by a decent margin) than the ceramic bezel to replace should that be necessary (unlikely as it might be). __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

1 August 2013, 03:33 AM	#10
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Can I add another question? How do the sharp edges of the ceramic bezel take the daily beating? __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

1 August 2013, 04:49 PM	#26
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Carbon is probably the safest material for everyday use as it doesn't shows scratches that easy. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

31 July 2013, 09:22 PM	#3
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,176	FightOnSC posted an awesome thread on day to day wear of his FC Diver. His assessment was that the resilience of the FC has made that watch more or so his daily because it's so flexible and can handle day to bumps and scrapes without any signs of it(paraphrasing). The FC Diver is my grail right now. From what I understand the case isn't overly expensive to replace. Mike(Kilyung) had gotten a quote I believe and it was less than $2k iirc. http://rolexforums.com/showthread.ph...d+carbon+diver

31 July 2013, 10:11 PM	#4
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	FC is tough as nails. You may be thinking about ceramic, which can be more prone to damage. I've put my 44mm FC through it's paces, and not even a scratch. FC is the ideal choice for weight as well. Just great for an all day watch!

31 July 2013, 10:21 PM	#5
Cru Jones 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,530	IIRC, in terms of scratch resistance, it's between SS and ceramic, but, due to the appearance of the material, the scratches will blend in and not be noticeable. with respect to impact resistance, it is more resiliant than ceramic, but, i'm not sure how it compares to SS (about the same?). personally, i like everything about FC, from the technology to its strengths to its appearance.

31 July 2013, 10:28 PM	#6
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	I wear my carbon pretty much 3 days a week and it's great, best part is the case hides almost anything!

1 August 2013, 12:00 AM	#8
Soly20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Soly Location: UK/US Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 3,089	I wear my FC 44mm sometimes 5 days in a row and it is as tough as nails. I also wear it when I fly long distance, and it doesn't have 1 scratch on it yet. FC is just amazing IMHO.

1 August 2013, 02:31 AM	#9
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	It's ridiculous how nice FC works as a daily watch. Any dings aren't very visible but if you want the case can be replaced for under $2k.

1 August 2013, 03:39 AM	#11
craniotes Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Ad Rock Location: Manhattan Posts: 621	Yup, it's an almost ideal day-to-day material for watch cases due to pretty much all the reasons already cited. Not only is it resistant to dings, scuffs and scratches, should they occur, they're almost impossible to see. Now, it's true that forged carbon cannot be refinished, which means that you're stuck replacing the entire case should you decide that the wear has become too much for you to bear any longer, but as noted, the cost for such a maneuver is less than you'd expect (personally, I suspect that AP is subsidizing the cost to make up for lack of refinishing options, but don't quote me on that). As for real-world experience, all I can say is that my FC Diver still looks indistinquishable from brand new, and that's after numerous trips to the beach, the playground (with the kids), the pool, etc. Honestly, I can't get enough of this watch. (I love how how shimmers in the sunlight!) Regards, Adam PS - Unless you're routinely scraping your bezel against crushed diamonds or pounding railroad ties with it, the ceramic will remain unblemished.

1 August 2013, 06:31 AM	#12
gummy 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,353	Had my 44FC for a while now...honestly I might wear it 5 of 7 days on average... I don't see any signs of wear and I love it. Tons of wrist presence and its super light and comfortable on. Proceed with confidence and get the Bee!

1 August 2013, 06:55 AM	#14
iLLGT2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Martin Location: NY And FLA Watch: AP ROO Blue Scuba Posts: 2,695	All depends which forged carbon AP we are talking about, in terms of replacement and wear. The team alinghi and grand prix tend to show more wear on the bezel than the others due to no ceramic bezel. I wore my bee daily for 2 months basically and it still looked BRAND NEW. My grand prix I then started to wear, besides for the normal wear when I got it (was like new) and the forged carbon weave/look which made the bezel look more worn than it was, it was also very resilient . I banged the grand prix bezel pretty hard and the only mark was paint on top of the wood table on the bezel. No crack or anything, and people have been very worried about the vented carbon bezel sustaining hits.. Either way, IMO, it is the PERFECT daily watch… and has so much character/comfort/style :)

1 August 2013, 07:34 AM	#17
FightOnSC! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: J Location: El Lay Watch: AP. Rolex. The end Posts: 636	I do have a very small and minor surface issue near the crown. How it happened I don't know. It's a pretty tough area to hit during daily wear but the grain hides it. It's my daily watch that gets put through the paces so I'm not in a rush to get a case replacement yet. In all I wear it with confidence everywhere, I consider this a fluke. I've definitely banged FC on things pretty hard and came out unscathed. It's tough.

1 August 2013, 10:32 AM	#19
tgoss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 51	I wear my bee almost daily and work in the automotive industry. I even wrench wearing it. I have banged this poor thing on everything you can imagine and it still looks perfect. Coupled with a diver or survivor strap and I'm hard pressed to remove this thing from my wrist :)

1 August 2013, 10:20 PM	#27
tattooedfagin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chad Location: the neighbourhood Watch: 1680 Red Posts: 2,262	Cheers for all input, ticks all the boxes then __________________ SS Sub Date (F) DSSD (V) Red Sub (Mk4) TRF Hall of Fame

2 August 2013, 04:51 AM	#28
John C "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Singapore Posts: 4	Is this ROO Carbon? I am also looking to get a Carbon ROO. Can anyone tell me which ROO is this? Are the hands yellow? - I like the Yellow Hands

5 August 2013, 01:48 AM	#29
GreenRust "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Land of Guinness Posts: 187	That looks like an End of Days limited edition. Not FC though, it's pvd. Killer watch!

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