Royal Oak - Future models in 41mm

[Farris]

Hi Guys,

As many of you know the Royal Oak is available in a larger 41mm size. I have been considering the chrono in RG for a while, but I find the perpetual calendar more practical. The 39mm size looks to small on me, which leaves me with a few questions please:

Has the 39mm been discountinued?

Will the perpetual calendar and other models be coming out in 41mm? Any news on when?

Thanks!

[singe89]

I would love to see it. I personally want a RG open worked RO in 41mm.

[T.S.Eliot]

41 is the biggest mistake AP did for the RO

[Farris]

As a big guy with a big wrist (I need 1 maybe 2 extra links on a RO bracelet), the 41mm size made me very interested. The 39mm was too small and the offshore was too big, making this perfect.

I am really interested to know a 41mm perpetual calender and perpetual calendar skeleton will be available this year or next year.

[Hairdude1]

Personally I like the 39mm size of my 15300 it wears bigger than expected

[Presa canary]

Originally Posted by T.S.Eliot

41 is the biggest mistake AP did for the RO

Really? I thought the biggest mistake done to the ro was the roo?

[orangedial]

Try the RO Equation of Time in RG or SS. They are 42mm but much thinner than ROO

[rolepam312]

Originally Posted by T.S.Eliot

41 is the biggest mistake AP did for the RO

My 15400 begs to differ... I passed on the 15300 few years ago when they said a " larger RO was coming out... 15300 is too small..

[mdtddd2007]

39mm wears like 40mm Rolex. Perfect size.

[shnxx]

They really should offer both.
Except for Americans getting fatter, wrist size hasn't changed in the last forty years.
I find no reason for a company like AP that also offers ROOs to permanently change the proportions of a classic like the RO and the RO Cheonographs.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by T.S.Eliot

41 is the biggest mistake AP did for the RO

Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Personally I like the 39mm size of my 15300 it wears bigger than expected

The 41mm would need a bigger movement, as the date wheel looks silly.

[Farris]

Originally Posted by orangedial

Try the RO Equation of Time in RG or SS. They are 42mm but much thinner than ROO

If I could get a good deal on one, I would be all over the equation of time RG.

[tavv160]

Originally Posted by shnxx

They really should offer both.

x2
I have the 15400 because the 39mm is too small on my wrist, but they should never have discontinued the 39mm. I love the 39mm chrono though!

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by bayerische

The 41mm would need a bigger movement, as the date wheel looks silly.

i've come around on the 15400 date window placement. it permits a marker to the right of the window and, it being more the left, it prevents too much open space on the dial.

[TSW]

Originally Posted by T.S.Eliot

41 is the biggest mistake AP did for the RO

Agree not feeling it at all.

[Farris]

Originally Posted by TSW

Agree not feeling it at all.

For those with bigger wrists the 41mm looks much better IMHO.

[Dcmk]

Originally Posted by T.S.Eliot

41 is the biggest mistake AP did for the RO

Agree 100%

[Dcmk]

Originally Posted by Presa canary

Really? I thought the biggest mistake done to the ro was the roo?

The Offshore was the biggest mistake to Frankenstein a RO and because it proved so popular at a time when the trend was to large monster watches and they made heaps of $$$ they can't stop now its become a monster out of control! And now they want to Frankenstein the RO 39mm to a 41mm just to get in the trendy fashion for big watches wagon! Big mistake. But does AP care? in the end if they can make more $$$ why not?

[Dcmk]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

i've come around on the 15400 date window placement. it permits a marker to the right of the window and, it being more the left, it prevents too much open space on the dial.

That's the problem!! They made the watch bigger but the movement remained the same and to deal with that they had to compromise with the date window pushing it in and making the watch look so out of balance for the sake of making a big RO for bigger wrists and more for fashion trends IMO . You want to wear a RO wear it in the original size bug wrist or not it is pure class. You want big go for Offshore!

[T.S.Eliot]

Gerard Genta designed it at 39 for a reason the 15202 and the skeleton version are still 39 for the same reason.

[patrike]

Originally Posted by Farris

For those with bigger wrists the 41mm looks much better IMHO.

How big is a bigger wrist. Mine is 7 1/4, I'm having a hard time deciding between 39 and 41mm.


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[Manofsteelpt]

My wrist is 7.5" and I like the larger size. My 39mm PC was a great watch, but turned out to be too small in the end. I would welcome a 41mm PC or Openworked!

[AK797]

The 41mm was essential imho. APs and the 300/400 ROs are muscular luxury sports watches, as opposed to the more delicate and elegant Nautilus, and for many with wrists over 7 inches, like me, the 300 feels too small and for a brand like AP that is unacceptable whereas it wouldn't be so much on a Patek or JLC. Ideally both sizes should be offered to cover all wrist sizes like the Omega PO. Same applies to the Daytona, that should come in 42mm as well.

[Dcmk]

Originally Posted by AK797

The 41mm was essential imho. APs and the 300/400 ROs are muscular luxury sports watches, as opposed to the more delicate and elegant Nautilus, and for many with wrists over 7 inches, like me, the 300 feels too small and for a brand like AP that is unacceptable whereas it wouldn't be so much on a Patek or JLC. Ideally both sizes should be offered to cover all wrist sizes like the Omega PO. Same applies to the Daytona, that should come in 42mm as well.

Both AP Royal oak and PP Nautilus are luxury sports watches. The original size 39mm was made with this in mind and im sure there were different wrist size in those days as well and you don't need to wear a clock to show how strong and macho you are! When you wear the RO 39mm it is sporty yet classy elegance. Now with the 41mm you have a macho watch that somehow has lost it's heritage and classic charm.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Dcmk

Both AP Royal oak and PP Nautilus are luxury sports watches. When you wear the RO 39mm it is sporty yet classy elegance.

No, it is just too small for many to be considered sporty. And a Nautilus and a RO are not the same. ROs are dressy sports watches while Nautilus' are more sporty dress watches. AP and Patek are not positioned exactly the same in the luxury watch market.

I'm not really a macho guy but I'm certainly more macho than you.

[Hanz079]

Before I got my 15400, I too find it difficult to decide between 39 or 41... 41 won in the end solely because it fits me better physically.
No wrong choice.
41mm seems to be really courting controversy from purists.
But sales seem to show them as widely accepted.
For me, instead of focusing on the date window, I am glad there is half a marker at 3... makes the dial look more balanced.
As for the movement, it would be ridiculous for AP to design a new movement solely for a 2mm upsize...
My 2 cents.