Should I flip my 15400 for a Jumbo?

[benlee]

I own a white dial 15400 RO and so far are perfectly happy with it. Unfortunately, in recent weeks, for some weird reasons, it has started to look "thicker"... Well, the main culprit is the 15202 Jumbo. A few of my friends just got this watch and wow... it's really thin in real life. Shaving that extra 2mm seems to make a world of difference.

So, is it worth to pay 2X the price for the 15400 for the Jumbo or pay the price of another RO to upgrade to 15202? Anyone has done that before?


Here's a photo of my 15400 :

[orangedial]

Go ahead, my friend! It IS a true upgrade :thumbup:

The Jumbo is THAT thin:

Thin but sturdy bracelet


Jumbo vs DJ2


Jumbo on 6.75" wrist

[subtona]

15202 is beautiful.

The 15400 is almost as nice yet more robust as a daily wear.

15202 is my choice

[AK797]

If you want the 202 I would trade for it rather than own both. However a slim AP doesn't really appeal to me, unlike a slim Patek, as AP is a more muscular and sportier luxury brand for me so Id rather have the 400 (as a dressy sports) and a PP 5711 (as a sporty dress).

[Lamkyle]

I would suggest PP5711 as well

[Vipes]

Yes, upgrade to the Jumbo. It is such a unique piece and it is the iconic AP

[Presa canary]

I would make the trade

[simongpaez]

Personally I would not, too much $ difference, I rather add an extra piece.

[texex91]

I wouldn't. I know it's iconic, but not a reason solely to buy it.

But then again, I like larger watches--15202 is too small for me.

[kilyung]

If you want a nice slim watch, get the PP 5711/1A. Besides do you want the same watch your friends have? If the 5711 has no appeal to you, get the 15202 40th. It's a great watch.

[Dcmk]

I would get the 15202 and in fact I did! It really is the classic iconic AP and when Compared with the 15400 side by side you can appreciate how special the jumbo is. I don't care for the 15400 they are just enlarged to meet the trend for big watches. The size at 39mm is perfect. I wear panerai and appreciate the fact that not every watch needs to be a panerai size.

[Andrés G]

Go for it! The Jumbo is the must have RO.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by orangedial

Go ahead, my friend! It IS a true upgrade :thumbup:

The Jumbo is THAT thin:

Wow... nice pics buddy! You are in full enabler mode.

Originally Posted by AK797

If you want the 202 I would trade for it rather than own both. However a slim AP doesn't really appeal to me, unlike a slim Patek, as AP is a more muscular and sportier luxury brand for me so Id rather have the 400 (as a dressy sports) and a PP 5711 (as a sporty dress).

I find the RO very dressy as well, esp the 15202 with it's very thin profile. I basically see the Nautilus and RO as equally sporty.

Originally Posted by kilyung

If you want a nice slim watch, get the PP 5711/1A. Besides do you want the same watch your friends have? If the 5711 has no appeal to you, get the 15202 40th. It's a great watch.

The problem is, my friends some of them also have the 5711. Perhaps I need to go for a RO skeleton or PP Grand Complication to be really unique.

Originally Posted by Dcmk

I would get the 15202 and in fact I did! It really is the classic iconic AP and when Compared with the 15400 side by side you can appreciate how special the jumbo is. I don't care for the 15400 they are just enlarged to meet the trend for big watches. The size at 39mm is perfect. I wear panerai and appreciate the fact that not every watch needs to be a panerai size.

Yes, the difference is obvious, hence this post. Still pondering. It is a lot of $$$ to pay for having that 2mm thinner case. Not to mention also giving up on a second hand and the quick set date feature.

Hey, didn't you recently post that you are bored with it? Maybe you can sell it to me cheap .

[Dcmk]

Originally Posted by Andrés G

Go for it! The Jumbo is the must have RO.

Agree! For me if you can only own 1 AP it has to be the Jumbo! Pure Genta design ..pure class.

[s14roller]

I personally would just add a different piece.

[cdnyc]

I have a white 41mm ROC and added the 40th Jumbo because of what you're confronted with -- the ROC is a bit big for some outfits/occasions. I'm very happy with the pair. They're soo different between the color, the tappiserie, the proportions, etc. However, if there can only be 1, with your 6.75 inch wrist, I say Jumbo. I think it'll work with more outfits/occasions.

[bayerische]

The 15400 doesn't float my boat, so yes go 15202 or downsize to the 15300.

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by texex91

I wouldn't. I know it's iconic, but not a reason solely to buy it.

But then again, I like larger watches--15202 is too small for me.

Agreed

However I do think the new Jumbo anniversary piece is gorgeous….

I say go for it?

[Hairdude1]

If your not in love anymore with you 15400 do it

[AK797]

Originally Posted by benlee

I find the RO very dressy as well, esp the 15202 with it's very thin profile. I basically see the Nautilus and RO as equally sporty.

I agree the 202 and Nautilus are very similar as dressy sports watches so if you kept the 400 and got the Nautilus you would have a lovely AP and PP pairing. I have a 41mm ROC and will buy a 5711 rather than another RO.

[subtona]

2 more things...
Imho the dial on the 15202 is absolutely perfect, especially with the dark date wheel , the white date wheel on the 5711 bugs me a little bit (i still think the 5711 is absolutely amazing)

2nd thing which i have never seen mentioned is this:
When it comes to the RO case design vs the Nautilus, the RO truly is held together by its design elements (8 screws), while the Nautilus is not, it has a screw in case back used in conjunction with the porthole like hinge system.

Just an observation.

However, the 5711 is WR to 120m vs 50m for the 15202.

[redsubby]

No way...would not do it. 15400 looks better and it's really not thick at all.

[Dcmk]

The 15400 looks better than the 15202? Really?? From what angle ? The bigger dial but same movement so that the date has to be pushed in awkwardly ? The small see through back movement in comparison to the width of the watch? The stretched look of the dial making it paneraish? The non legendary movement? The second hand cluttering the dial?The colors to choose black, blue, white adding variety? Big is better?

[kevbm]

I upgraded my 15400 black dial to the jumbo and haven't looked back. As you're aware already, the 15202 dial is gorgeous in a live setting but still an all around versatile piece.
I do have to say that I miss the thicker RO case but if I got another one, it would have to be a 15300.

Do it, Ben, and start taking those awesome photos of yours.

[Watchcentric]

I would switch. The 15400 has lost much of the original RO elegance because of its size.

A much more difficult question, one I sometimes ask myself, is if switching from a 15300 to a 15202 (or to a 5402) is worthwhile...

[Hanz079]

Originally Posted by Dcmk

The 15400 looks better than the 15202? Really?? From what angle ? The bigger dial but same movement so that the date has to be pushed in awkwardly ? The small see through back movement in comparison to the width of the watch? The stretched look of the dial making it paneraish? The non legendary movement? The second hand cluttering the dial?The colors to choose black, blue, white adding variety? Big is better?

I think it has to do with the overall perception.
41mm is not that big if the person wearing it is 6 ft tall weighing 200 pounds.
The 39mm jumbo is an excellent piece, catered for those who are purists and looking for historical significance in the royal oak line.
15400 is an evolution.
Is bigger better? Pretty subjective.
Let's not forget that previous jumbos does come with dial colour choices as well.
As for the date placemet on the dial, i see this issue seems to bother alot of ppl.
I see it as a design decision and not a small movement constraint decision.
The el primeros are small, yet on their huge stratos and other 45mm models, they were able to place the datewheel at the outermost dial.
I believe AP could do the same, just that the half marker at 3 o'clock is more cohesive to the overall dial design.
Just my opinion for what it's worth.

As for Ben, if you really like the way the 202 wears on your wrist and able to afford it, why not?

[bayerische]

The size is not the problem with the 15400, but it has the wrong movement! The date window looks disproportionate.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by Dcmk

The 15400 looks better than the 15202? Really?? From what angle ? The bigger dial but same movement so that the date has to be pushed in awkwardly ? The small see through back movement in comparison to the width of the watch? The stretched look of the dial making it paneraish? The non legendary movement? The second hand cluttering the dial?The colors to choose black, blue, white adding variety? Big is better?

Not the same movement. In any event, I thought you were bored with the Jumbo? Why so hard to believe people have a different opinion?

[leica]

Eeny meenie minie mo.. Mo!

[redsubby]

Originally Posted by Dcmk

The 15400 looks better than the 15202? Really?? From what angle ? The bigger dial but same movement so that the date has to be pushed in awkwardly ? The small see through back movement in comparison to the width of the watch? The stretched look of the dial making it paneraish? The non legendary movement? The second hand cluttering the dial?The colors to choose black, blue, white adding variety? Big is better?

All your points are subjective. The date window does not bother me one bit. The dial does not look stretched to me, and the seconds hand cluttering the dial? Are you kidding me?! Seconds hand cluttering up the dial...wow...
Few watches I absolutely will not buy, and no seconds hand is one of them.
Tell you the truth, the jumbo's dial does not attract me at all. If you are buying a watch only for its so called "legendary" status, then go for it.